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Proactive 12 Steps

Conversations about mindful recovery and personal growth, from 2 perspectives. Serge Prengel is a therapist and the author of The Proactive Twelve Steps. Lee Renee McGinnis has been in recovery for 10 years and enjoys coaching people.

30 - Happy Holidays?

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30 - Happy Holidays?

A message about the holidays, whether you are happy or not at this time of year.

Serge Prengel is a therapist and the author of The Proactive Twelve Steps.

Published December 2022
Tue, 20 Dec 2022 - 3min
29 - Conversation with a Focus on Slowing Down

Lee and Serge talk about how a conversation need not be stimulating. They discuss how paying attention to the slowing down of the voice and the body helps to find a soothing and relaxing rhythm of connection.

This podcast features conversations about mindful recovery and personal growth, from 2 perspectives:

Serge Prengel is a therapist and the author of The Proactive Twelve Steps.

Lee Renee McGinnis has been in recovery for 10 years and enjoys coaching people.

Published November 2022
Sun, 27 Nov 2022 - 11min
28 - Modeling conversation

Serge and Lee discuss what makes conversation safe and spontaneous. Then they realized that they were modeling the concepts.

This podcast features conversations about mindful recovery and personal growth, from 2 perspectives:

Serge Prengel is a therapist and the author of The Proactive Twelve Steps.

Lee Renee McGinnis has been in recovery for 10 years and enjoys coaching people.

Published November 2022
Sun, 06 Nov 2022 - 16min
27 - Conversation & Connection

Lee and Serge share their enjoyment of conversation and what it means to them.

This podcast features conversations about mindful recovery and personal growth, from 2 perspectives:

Serge Prengel is a therapist and the author of The Proactive Twelve Steps.

Lee Renee McGinnis has been in recovery for 10 years and enjoys coaching people.

Published October 2022
Sun, 23 Oct 2022 - 7min
26 - Confronting Somebody’s Addiction

Serge and Lee talk at length about how to handle the intense emotions that are triggered when we confront somebody about their dangerous behavior. We talk about how focusing on the moment-by-moment experience makes us more present and effective.

This podcast features conversations about mindful recovery and personal growth, from 2 perspectives:

Serge Prengel is a therapist and the author of The Proactive Twelve Steps.

Lee Renee McGinnis has been in recovery for 10 years and enjoys coaching people.

Published September 2022
Sun, 04 Sep 2022 - 19min
25 - Reset: How to Pause and Feel Present

Serge and Lee discuss what to do when we feel frazzled or overwhelmed. We describe a simple way to take a mindful pause and feel present.

This podcast features conversations about mindful recovery and personal growth, from 2 perspectives:

Serge Prengel is a therapist and the author of The Proactive Twelve Steps.

Lee Renee McGinnis has been in recovery for 10 years and enjoys coaching people.

Published August 2022
Sun, 21 Aug 2022 - 10min
24 - Pendulum

Lee and Serge talk about Lee’s imagery of a Pendulum in codependency to describe shifting from being people-pleasing to intolerant and then eventually finding balance.

This podcast features conversations about mindful recovery and personal growth, from 2 perspectives:

Serge Prengel is a therapist and the author of The Proactive Twelve Steps.

Lee Renee McGinnis has been in recovery for 10 years and enjoys coaching people.

Published August 2022
Sun, 07 Aug 2022 - 10min
23 - Inclusion

Serge and Lee talk about coming from self-absorption and moving into a place of noticing others. Not as an exercise in being altruistic but as a way of life that actually feels better.

This podcast features conversations about mindful recovery and personal growth, from 2 perspectives:

Serge Prengel is a therapist and the author of The Proactive Twelve Steps.

Lee Renee McGinnis has been in recovery for 10 years and enjoys coaching people.

Published July 2022
Sun, 24 Jul 2022 - 11min
22 - The Upward Spiral of Healing

Serge and Lee talk about the moment-by-moment experience of sharing with someone who can relate to our situation.

This podcast features conversations about mindful recovery and personal growth, from 2 perspectives:

Serge Prengel is a therapist and the author of The Proactive Twelve Steps.

Lee Renee McGinnis has been in recovery for 10 years and enjoys coaching people.

Published July 2022
Sun, 10 Jul 2022 - 9min
21 - From Dark Isolation to Light

Lee & Serge talk about the darkness of isolation and how important it is to share with another person.

This podcast features conversations about mindful recovery and personal growth, from 2 perspectives:

Serge Prengel is a therapist and the author of The Proactive Twelve Steps.

Lee Renee McGinnis has been in recovery for 10 years and enjoys coaching people.

Published June 2022
Mon, 27 Jun 2022 - 18min
20 - Dealing with unbearable consequences

Lee and Serge talk about how we can deal with things that we cannot control that result in unbearable loss and lasting consequences.

This podcast features conversations about mindful recovery and personal growth, from 2 perspectives:

Serge Prengel is a therapist and the author of The Proactive Twelve Steps.

Lee Renee McGinnis has been in recovery for 10 years and enjoys coaching people.

Published June 2022
Sun, 12 Jun 2022 - 26min
19 - Sharing joy

Lee and Serge talk about things that make them happy and reflect upon how connecting it feels to share with another person what brings you joy.

This podcast features conversations about mindful recovery and personal growth, from 2 perspectives:

Serge Prengel is a therapist and the author of The Proactive Twelve Steps.

Lee Renee McGinnis has been in recovery for 10 years and enjoys coaching people.

Published May 2022
Sun, 29 May 2022 - 9min
18 - The Pause and the Nature of Healing

Serge and Lee discuss the nature of healing. We talk about becoming aware of the patterns we have learned in order to adapt to our circumstances. We learn to pause. We are no longer compelled to identify with these patterns. Little by little a broader sense of who we are begins to emerge.

This podcast features conversations about mindful recovery and personal growth, from 2 perspectives:

Serge Prengel is a therapist and the author of The Proactive Twelve Steps.

Lee Renee McGinnis has been in recovery for 10 years and enjoys coaching people.

Published May 2022
Sun, 15 May 2022 - 13min
17 - The experience of spirituality

Lee & Serge explore spirituality as an experience, as opposed to an idea. We don’t see spirituality as necessarily related to religion or any sort of dogma. In fact, we let go of the need to label it as spirituality at all.

This podcast features conversations about mindful recovery and personal growth, from 2 perspectives:

Serge Prengel is a therapist and the author of The Proactive Twelve Steps.

Lee Renee McGinnis has been in recovery for 10 years and enjoys coaching people.

Published May 2022
Sun, 01 May 2022 - 12min
16 - The dilemma of overcommitment

We want to do things and we commit to them but then we discover the toll they can take on us. Serge and Lee explore this dilemma and how to deal with the trade-off between integrity, responsibility, self-care, and being true to yourself.

This podcast features conversations about mindful recovery and personal growth, from 2 perspectives:

Serge Prengel is a therapist and the author of The Proactive Twelve Steps.

Lee Renee McGinnis has been in recovery for 10 years and enjoys coaching people.

Published April 2022
Sun, 17 Apr 2022 - 11min
15 - A prayer need not be religious

In this 13-minute conversation, we talk about prayer, and how it need not be religious.

This podcast features conversations about mindful recovery and personal growth, from 2 perspectives:

Serge Prengel is a therapist and the author of The Proactive Twelve Steps.

Lee Renee McGinnis has been in recovery for 10 years and enjoys coaching people.

Published April 2022
Sun, 03 Apr 2022 - 13min
14 - When things go well

In this 7-minute conversation, we veer away from talking about problems and talk about when things go well.

This podcast features conversations about mindful recovery and personal growth, from 2 perspectives:

Serge Prengel is a therapist and the author of The Proactive Twelve Steps.

Lee Renee McGinnis has been in recovery for 10 years and enjoys coaching people.

Published March 2022
Sun, 20 Mar 2022 - 7min
13 - I don’t want to be here

In this 6-minute conversation, we talk about when things feel so bad that we’d rather not be present.

This podcast features conversations about mindful recovery and personal growth, from 2 perspectives:

Serge Prengel is a therapist and the author of The Proactive Twelve Steps.

Lee Renee McGinnis has been in recovery for 10 years and enjoys coaching people.

Published March 2022
Sun, 06 Mar 2022 - 6min
12 - Feeling overwhelmed: It’s a lot

In this 4-minute conversation, we talk about feeling overwhelmed: “It’s a lot.”

This podcast features conversations about mindful recovery and personal growth, from 2 perspectives:

Serge Prengel is a therapist and the author of The Proactive Twelve Steps.

Lee Renee McGinnis has been in recovery for 10 years and enjoys coaching people.

Published February 2022
Sun, 20 Feb 2022 - 4min
11 - Why we need a mindful pause and how to do it

In this 15-minute conversation, we talk about why we need to pause, and how to do it.

This podcast features conversations about mindful recovery and personal growth, from 2 perspectives:

Serge Prengel is a therapist and the author of The Proactive Twelve Steps.

Lee Renee McGinnis has been in recovery for 10 years and enjoys coaching people.

Published February 2022
Sun, 06 Feb 2022 - 15min
10 - Letting go: How do we actually do this?

In this 13-minute conversation, we talk about what it means to let go, and how we can do it.

This podcast features conversations about mindful recovery and personal growth, from 2 perspectives:

Serge Prengel is a therapist and the author of The Proactive Twelve Steps.

Lee Renee McGinnis has been in recovery for 10 years and enjoys coaching people.

Published January 2022
Sun, 30 Jan 2022 - 13min
9 - What do we mean by recovery?

In this 11-minute conversation, we talk about what we mean by recovery.

This podcast features conversations about mindful recovery and personal growth, from 2 perspectives:

Serge Prengel is a therapist and the author of The Proactive Twelve Steps.

Lee Renee McGinnis has been in recovery for 10 years and enjoys coaching people.

Published January 2022
Sun, 23 Jan 2022 - 11min
8 - Welcome to the Proactive Twelve Steps podcast

In this first episode (8 minutes) we talk about our vision for this podcast as peers in a space of presence.

Who we are:

Serge Prengel is a therapist and the author of The Proactive Twelve Steps. He is the editor of this site (unless otherwise noted, he is the author of any article published here). Serge is a co-founder of the Integrative Focusing Therapy training program.

Lee Renee McGinnis has been in the professional and personal development field for over 30 years. She currently manages professional development for a large real estate firm. She has licenses or certifications through the National Association of Realtors, The Nutritional Therapy Association, and the Institute for Integrative Nutrition. She has been in recovery for 10 years and enjoys coaching people around all areas of wellness and recovery.

Published January 2022
Sun, 16 Jan 2022 - 8min

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