The OWASP Podcast Series

What happens when you get interested in Threat Modeling and you want to share. For some, that means you do one work shop, then another, then another. What happens when you start down this path. Takaharu Ogasa tells us what it's been like to become a threat modeling evangelist in Japan, what he's learned and what he's got planned next. It's a great story on how sharing what you learned can make the world just that much better for you and those lucky enough to be involved. Threat Modeling Community (Japanese): - https://threatmodeling.connpass.com/ Takaharu on Twitter -https://x.com/TakaharuOgasa

The August episode is a review of projects from a recent OWASP project showcase. We talk to the leaders of the OWASP pytm, OWASP Developer Guide, OWASP State of AppSec Survey Project. Get up on the latest news and update on these OWASP projects. OWASP pytm: - https://owasp.org/www-project-pytm/ - https://github.com/izar/pytm OWASP Develper Guide: - https://owasp.org/www-project-developer-guide/ - https://github.com/OWASP/www-project-developer-guide OWASP AppSec Survey Project: - https://owasp.org/www-project-state-of-appsec-survey/

After a long and unplanned pause, the OWASP podast is back with a home run of an episode. We have Lisa Plaggemier as our guest who reprises her eloquent keynote topic from AppSec DC. All hope isn't lost, we are making progress - just look at safety in the auto industry to understand where we are and where we're going. Links: Lisa's keynote from AppSec DC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rirxc1OXR4Q&list=PLpr-xdpM8wG_3eyVQxB0oXqVJwlNKs85x&index=38&ab_channel=OWASPFoundation Kubikle web series https://kubikleseries.com/ Convene Seattle 2024 event https://staysafeonline.org/programs/events/convene-seattle-2024/

After getting a ping from an old friend about a potential new OWASP project, I had to bring him on as a guest. He's got an interesting idea around potential vulnerabilities in web crawlers which just happen to gather data for so many AI system. We talk about that, Cybersecurity and Government and so much more. Show Links: - LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/buanzo/ - Github https://www.linkedin.com/in/buanzo/

For years we've heard talk about a shortage of cybersecurity professionals so what can be done about that? In this episode, I speak to Brad Causey who has taken one approach he's found successful. We cover the trade-offs of his approach and how, should you agree with him, you can help fill those troubling vacancies at your company. Show Links: - SecurIT360 https://securit360.com/ - Offensive Security Blog https://offsec.blog/

In this episode we talk with Zain Haq and take a leap and bound over the first and second line to discover more about the third line - internal audit. We discover answers to a number of questions: What role does audit play in the overall cybersecurity of an organization? What does the CISO gain from having an audit function? What makes a good auditor? Learn how to get the most out of audit and what they bring to the table. Special thanks to Tina Turner for inspiring the show title. ;-) Show Links: - Zain Haq: https://www.linkedin.com/in/zainhaq25/

Software supply chain seems to be front and center for technologists, cybersecurity and many governments. One of the early pioneers in this space was Steve Springett with two highly successful projects: OWASP Dependency Track and CycloneDX. In this episode, we catch up with Steve to talk about how he got started in software supply chain management as well as the explosive growth for Dependency Track and ClycloneDX. We also touch on future developments for CycloneDX and places where Steve never expected to see his projects go. Enjoy! Show Links: - OWASP Dependency Track: https://dependencytrack.org/ - Dependency Track Github: https://github.com/DependencyTrack - CycloneDX: https://cyclonedx.org/ - CycloneDX Github: https://github.com/CycloneDX - Software Component Verification Standard: https://scvs.owasp.org/ Social Media links: - https://twitter.com/stevespringett - https://infosec.exchange/@stevespringett - https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevespringett/

In this episode I speak with Jerry Hoff who provides some very interesting perspective on application security especially at scale and from a high level view like that of a CISO. Even if you're not in a senior leadership position, you're likely to be reporting to one. Understanding that point of view can help you successfully frame your work and accomplish your goals. We touch on multiple topics and have some great back and forth that I'm sure will entertain and inform you. Enjoy!

WAFs have been with us a while and it's about time someone reconsidered WAFs and their role in AppSec given the cloud-native and Kubernetes landscape. The OWASP Coraza is not only asking these questions but putting some Go code behind their ideas. Should WAFs work in a mesh network? Why create an open source WAF? What's next for the OWASP Coraza project? These and more topics are covered in this episode. I had a great time recording it and I think you'll have the same while listening. Show Link: - Coraza Website: https://coraza.io/ - Coraza Github Repo: https://github.com/corazawaf/coraza - Coraza Twitter: https://twitter.com/corazaio - AppSec EU 2023 presentation on Coraza - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_TtvDFmia4

In this episode I speak with Aaron about Point of Sale or POS systems. He's been investigating the security of POS systems for quite some time now and brings to light the state of the POS ecosystem. Buckle your seat belts, this is going to be a bumpy and very interesting ride.

In this episode I speak with Amitai Cohen who's been thinking a lot about tenant isolation. This is a problem for more then just cloud providers. Anyone with a SaaS offering or even large enterprise may want to isolate customers or parts of their business from each other. Several useful items came out of this including the Cloud VulnDB which catalogs security issues in cloud services and the PEACH tenant isolation framework. You may not think you need to worry about tenant isolation, but I bet you should at least keep it in mind. Enjoy! Show Links: - Cloud VulnDB: https://www.cloudvulndb.org/ - PEACH Framework: https://www.peach.wiz.io/ - OWASP Cloud Tenant Isolation Project: https://owasp.org/www-project-cloud-tenant-isolation/

In this episode, I speak with Caleb Queern, one of the authors of "Investments Unlimited" a book I highly recommend you get and read. While the book is fiction, there's a great deal of truth in the story about how automation can work for more than just DevSecOps. Compliance and audit also deserve a seat at the table. Learn how you can get more code out the door, with more safety and a 'risk reduced' smile on the auditors face. Show Links: - Investments Unlimited: https://itrevolution.com/product/investments-unlimited/ - DevOps Automated Governance Reference Architecture: https://itrevolution.com/product/devops-automated-governance-reference-architecture/

In this episode, I go solo and review the last year of podcasts but with a twist. I do my best to compare the topics covered to the OWASP Flagship projects. The goal is to see if the episodes I recorded this year match up with the projects strategically important to OWASP. Plus, the holiday listeners get gifts all around as I cover (and link) the OWASP Flagship projects. Show Links: - (January) New Ideas, New Voices, New Hosts: https://soundcloud.com/owasp-podcast/new-ideas-new-voices-new-hosts - (February) Tanya Janca - She Hack Purple: https://soundcloud.com/owasp-podcast/tanya-janca - SAMM (Software Assurance Maturity Model): https://owaspsamm.org/ - (March) Fast Times at SBOM High: https://soundcloud.com/owasp-podcast/fast-times-at-sbom-high-with-wendy-nather-and-matt-tesauro - CycloneDX: https://cyclonedx.org/ - Dependency-Track: https://dependencytrack.org/ - Dependency-Check: https://jeremylong.github.io/DependencyCheck/ - (April) The VOID: Verica Open Incident Database: https://soundcloud.com/owasp-podcast/the-void-verica-open-incident-database - Web Security Testing Guide: https://owasp.org/www-project-web-security-testing-guide/ - Mobile Application Security Guide: https://mas.owasp.org/ - (May) Threat Modeling using the Force: https://soundcloud.com/owasp-podcast/threat-modeling-using-the-force-with-adam-shostack-owasp-podcast-e001 - ASVS (Application Security Verification Standard): https://owasp.org/www-project-application-security-verification-standard/ - AMASS: https://owasp.org/www-project-amass/ - (June) Giving a jot about JWTs: JWT Patterns and Anti-Patterns: https://soundcloud.com/owasp-podcast/owasp-podcast-giving-a-jot-about-jwts-jwt-patterns-and-anti-patterns - Cheat Sheet Series: https://cheatsheetseries.owasp.org/ - API Top 10: https://owasp.org/www-project-api-security/ - (July) Getting Lean and Mean with DefectDojo: https://soundcloud.com/owasp-podcast/getting-lean-and-mean-in-the-defectdojo - DefectDojo: https://www.defectdojo.org/ - (August) Going Way Beyond 2FA: https://soundcloud.com/owasp-podcast/going-way-beyond-2fa - ModSecurity Core Rule Set: https://coreruleset.org/ - (September) Breaching the wirefall with community: https://soundcloud.com/owasp-podcast/breaching-the-wirefall-with-community - Security Shepherd: https://owasp.org/www-project-security-shepherd/ - Juice Shop: https://owasp.org/www-project-juice-shop/ - Security Knowledge: https://owasp.org/www-project-security-knowledge-framework/ - (October) Little Zap of Horrors: https://soundcloud.com/owasp-podcast/little-zap-of-horrors - Zed Attack Proxy (ZAP): https://www.zaproxy.org/ - OWTF (Offensive Web Testing Framework): https://owtf.github.io/ - (November) You've got some Kubernetes in my AppSec: https://soundcloud.com/owasp-podcast/youve-got-some-kubernetes-in-my-appsec - OWASP Top 10: https://owasp.org/www-project-top-ten/ - CSRFGuard: https://owasp.org/www-project-csrfguard/

In this episode, I speak with Jimmy Mesta, the project leader of the new OWASP Kubernetes Top 10. Beyond covering the actual Kubernetes Top 10 project, we cover how AppSec has expanded to cover other areas. You not only have to ensure that your application is secure, you need to ensure the security of the environment in which it runs. That environment is increasing becoming Kubernetes so what better than talk to someone who's protected Kubernetes clusters for years and trained many others to harden their clusters. Show Links: - OWASP Kubernetes Top 10: https://owasp.org/www-project-kubernetes-top-ten/ - Kubernetes Top 10 Github repo: https://github.com/OWASP/www-project-kubernetes-top-ten - OWASP Kubernetes Security Cheat Sheet: https://cheatsheetseries.owasp.org/cheatsheets/Kubernetes_Security_Cheat_Sheet.html - Mozilla SOPS: https://github.com/mozilla/sops - Hashicorp Valut: https://www.hashicorp.com/products/vault - KSOC: https://ksoc.com/

In this episode, I speak with Simon Bennetts, the creator of OWASP Zed Attack Proxy lovingly known as ZAP. We talk about how it all got started, some of the surprises and lessons learned running a wildly successful open source project. We also cover how some security controls can sometimes actually hurt security. It's an interesting discussion I think you'll enjoy it just in time for Halloween. Show Links: - Zap Website: https://www.zaproxy.org/ - Zap Stats: https://www.zaproxy.org/docs/statistics/ - Zap Community: https://www.zaproxy.org/community/

In this episode, Matt Tesauro hosts wirefall to talk about creating and growing a security community and his 26 years of pen testing experience. In wirefall's case, it's the Dallas Hackers Association or DHA. Our conversation includes what motivated him to create DHA, the lessons he's learned, challenges faced and what success looks like today. He provides some advice for those wanting to get into cybersecurity or be a part of the broader security community. Enjoy. Show Links: - DHA Meetup: https://www.meetup.com/dallas-hackers-association/ - DHA Twitter: https://twitter.com/dallas_hackers - wirefall on Twitter: https://twitter.com/DHAhole

In this episode, Matt Tesauro hosts Neil Matatall to talk about going beyond 2FA as he relates lessons learned from Twitter and Github on account security. This is another episode with some good nuggets of wisdom and some sound advice for those writing or maintaining APIs. It's obvious that Neil has not only spent time doing solid engineering work but he's learned a few things that he's willing to share. Enjoy. Show Links: - OWASP DevSlop Episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrAKE6LaizE&ab_channel=OWASPDevSlop - Slide Deck: https://bit.ly/35dcTm0 - Neil on Twitter: https://twitter.com/ndm

In this episode, Matt Tesauro hosts Greg Anderson and Cody Maffucci to talk about OWASP DefectDojo. DefectDojo is an OWASP flagship project that aims to be the single source of truth for AppSec or Product Security teams. It provides a single pane of glass for security programs and can import and normalize over 150 different security tools. I thought that the OWASP podcast might just cover an OWASP project now and then so here we go. Show Links: - https://www.defectdojo.org/ - Github organization: https://github.com/defectdojo - Github main repo: https://github.com/DefectDojo/django-DefectDojo - Pubic Demo info: https://github.com/DefectDojo/django-DefectDojo#demo - Data models (part of the project docs) https://defectdojo.github.io/django-DefectDojo/usage/models/

In this episode, Matt Tesauro hosts David Gillman about JWT Patterns and Anti-Patterns. I first met David at LASCON in the fall of 2021 when I sat in on his conference talk. Based on David’s experiences with JWTs we discuss where JSON Web Tokens can help and harm developers who use them. It seems like JWTs can be a mixed bag mostly determined by how you use them. Hopefully this episode will help you avoid any JWT sharp edges if or, more likely, when you work with them. Show Links: - Video of David’s presentation at LASCON - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTk4ff0eAUg&list=PLLWzQe8KOh5nv8OBs3j39DNYULfxwv_6V&index=29&ab_channel=LASCON - David Gillman on Twitter - https://twitter.com/primed_mover

In this episode, Matt Tesauro hosts Adam Shostack to talk about threat modeling - not only what it is but what Adam has learned from teaching numerous teams how to do threat modeling. Learn what makes a good threat model and some news about a new book from Adam to help further the spread of threat modeling with the end goal of more threat modeling and fewer security surprises. Enjoy! Show Links: - Threats Book site: https://threatsbook.com/ - Resources on Adam’s website: https://shostack.org/resources

Welcome back to the OWASP podcast. In this episode, we're headed to The VOID. I speak with Courtney Nash about the Verica Open Incident Database, otherwise known as The VOID, which is a collection of software-related incident reports available at https://www.thevoid.community/. It's a fascinating discussion about how, by gathering data from The VOID, we can make the Internet a safer and more resilient place. Courtney was super passionate about the research work she's doing. It was completely fun to chat with her and they've already produced some very interesting conclusions, in the published report available on The VOID website. I had a blast recording this one and I hope you enjoy it. EPISODE LINKS - The VOID: https://www.thevoid.community/ - 2021 Report: https://www.thevoid.community/report - Podcast: https://podcast.thevoid.community/ - Google MTTR report: https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/incident-metrics-in/9781098103163/ (Summarized also in the 2021 VOID report)

Hello, it's Matt Tesauro. Welcome back to my take on the OWASP Podcast. It seems as if I'm turning my episodes into the equivalent of a conference hall track, those wonderful interactions you have at conferences, running between rooms at conferences, meeting up with smart minds you don't see all the time. I have the pleasure of reuniting with Wendy Nather, CISO Advisor Extraordinaire, for this episode. We had a very interesting conversation about Software Bill of Materials (SBOMs). Like many of my interactions with Wendy, I learned from our conversation. She threw out some really good nuggets. I highly recommend looking up Wendy on Twitter (@wendynather). Besides the security wisdom she's going to drop, she's got a hell of a sense of humor. I think it will be worth the follow. Enjoy the episode.

“I absolutely hate SAFe!” -- Bryan Finster That is Bryan Finster, Distinguished Engineer at Defense Unicorns out of Colorado Springs. I was scrolling through LinkedIn a couple days ago, saw a thread on SAFe, The Scaled Agile Framework, and what I was seeing wasn’t exactly… well, what you’d expect to hear about a framework that’s being used by over 20,000 organizations, including the United States government. Before we get too much into it, here is the definition of SAFe. I took it directly off Scaled Agile, the creators and providers of the SAFe framework: “The Scaled Agile Framework® (SAFe®) is a system for implementing Agile, Lean, and DevOps practices at scale. The Scaled Agile Framework is the most popular framework for leading enterprises because it works: it’s trusted, customizable, and sustainable. If you want to build operational excellence, collaboration, responsiveness, and customer satisfaction into your organizational DNA, where do you start? SAFe provides a proven playbook for transformation.” Some people will argue with “because it works”, and Bryan is one of those people. Here’s what started the whole thing. Bryan posted this on LinkedIn, “Example of terrible ideas propagated by #SAFe: feature teams. A feature team doesn’t own anything. They act as coding mills and have no quality ownership. SAFe recommends them as a method to increase output. It’s a hacky workaround for crappy architecture that results in increased support cost and more crappy architecture.” Tell us what you REALLY think, Bryan! In today’s broadcast, we talk to three people who have varying degrees of opinions on SAFe: Tracy Bannon, Senior Principal/ Software Architect & DevOps Advisor at Mitre, David Bishop, Certified SAFe 5.0 Program Consultant, and of course, Bryan. Stay with for what’s sure to be a fun ride. RESOURCES FROM THIS BROADCAST SAFe: Scaled Agile Framework https://www.scaledagileframework.com/ Bryan Finster https://www.linkedin.com/in/bryan-finster/ Tracy Bannon https://www.linkedin.com/in/tracylbannon/ David Bishop https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-bishop-08528220/

Hello, I'm Matt Tesauro, one of the OWASP Podcast co-hosts. I had the opportunity to interview Tanya Janca for this podcast. To be honest, I kind of wish it was a video recording because you'd be able to see the big smiles and vigorous head nodding during the recording. Tanya and I are in violent agreement about all things appsec, and it shows. There's a nice mix of general advice, war stories, and some good nuggets in this interview. I hope you enjoy it.

8 years ago I took over the OWASP Podcast from Jim Manico, originator of the project. In that time over 160 episodes have been published, with over 500,000 downloads. It has been a fun project, but it’s time to change things up a bit. There is a lot going on at OWASP, even more going on with the technology industry when it comes to cybersecurity. It’s too much for one person to keep up with. Enter the idea of multiple co-hosts for the podcast. Many of you listening already know of Vandana Verma and Matt Tesauro from their work with OWASP. I called to ask if they’d like to share the platform, producing their own episodes around a chosen concept. In today’s episode, Vandana, Matt and I talk about thoughts of an expanded concept for the podcast. We’ll each explain what we will be covering in our shows, and what you can expect to hear in the coming year. Our plan is to have three shows, (kind of like NPR programming when I think of it), under one umbrella: The OWASP Podcast Series. Come along with us and we talk through the new series and what it will me to you, as a listener.

We’ve all heard of “Red Teams” and “Blue Teams” when it comes to cybersecurity. But what about the “Purple Team”, the “Yellow Team” or the “Blue Team”. What are those? In February of 2020, Louis Cremen introduced the InfoSec Colour Wheel to the security community. The wheel expands upon April Wright’s work on bringing builders into the security team. The value of the wheel is to show the various types of security teams, seven in all, and the role each plays in security. Jasmine Henry brought the wheel to my attention. As she and I talked, we realized the InfoSec Wheel can be used as a thought exercise to show beginning cybersecurity professionals the various roles they can play within the community. This led to the discussion of careers in cybersecurity and what the near future looks like. In this broadcast, we’ll evaluate the wheel, talk through each of the seven personas and give our thoughts on the value of each role, how it works with the other roles, and the basics of what each provides. Let’s figure out what your primary color is. Stay tuned… https://hackernoon.com/introducing-the-infosec-colour-wheel-blending-developers-with-red-and-blue-security-teams-6437c1a07700 The OWASP Podcast Series is supported by the Open Web Application Security Project, home to over 240 community driven security projects, including the OWASP Top 10, the Web Security Testing Guide, and the Security Knowledge Framework projects. ABOUT JASMINE HENRY Jasmine Henry is a security practitioner who's used JupiterOne to create a compliant security function at a cloud-native startup. She has 10 years of experience leading security programs, an MS in Informatics and Analytics, and a commitment to mentoring rising security practitioners from underrepresented backgrounds. Jasmine is a Career Village co-organizer for The Diana Initiative security conference. She lives in the Capitol Hill neighborhood of Seattle, WA.

A couple weeks ago I read an article by Chris Roberts. The headline screamed, “Security Solved!” Security solved? What the hell was he talking about. Everyday there’s a new media storm around the latest breach or ransomware attack. There’s an entire industry built around the idea that security is hard, and the need for special equipment, software and people to even think about being secure. Chris was insistent. He professed that security is not hard nor complicated. Not only does he consider it inexpensive and undemanding to do the right thing, his premise is it’s easy to get the simple stuff sorted. I called Chris to get clarification on what he was talking about. As we got deeper into the discussion, we both realized this was a topic that needed more exposure. If there really is a simple way to implement security, the world should hear about it. We invited people to participate in the recording of our discussion. You’ll hear us reference people who were online with us, sending chat messages and questions. This session is a little longer that our usual podcast, but what’s here is important. Chris says it’s easy, I say it’s not, and then we get into it. We start when I ask Chris to give us a little about his background. You’ll be able to tell right from the start, this isn’t going to be your ordinary podcast. Notes for this broadcast: Chris' original article can be found on his LinkedIn feed: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/sidragon1_cybersecurity-management-training-activity-6810995026848485376-58Zs Basic Premise: This isn’t hard. This isn’t complicated. This doesn’t have to be expensive. This doesn’t need fancy words This doesn’t require gilted certificates This isn’t demanding This needs no awards This isn’t covered in glory. Step-by-Step Instructions: 1. Assets, what do you have? 2. Assets, where are they? 3. Who’s got access to them? 4. What DO they do, what is their purpose? 5. What’s on them? 6. Which ones do you need to care about?

In this episode of the People | Process | Technology podcast, I speak with Seba Deleersnyder from the Software Assurance Maturity Model, Carlos Holguera and Sven Schleier from the Mobile Security Testing Guide, and Bjoern Kimminich from the Juice Shop Project. This is part of an ongoing podcast series, highlighting the OWASP Flagship Projects that will be featured at the OWASP 20th Anniversary Celebration in September. I talk with the project leads to hear what they have been working on for the past year, what their plans are for the coming year, and what we can expect to see at the conference in September. Support for this broadcast is provide by OWASP, celebrating twenty years of making software safer. OWASP hosts their 24 hour, 20th Anniversary Celebration in September. Head to 20thAnniversary.owasp.org for your free ticket… and with support from JupiterOne, who believes that security is a basic right to every person, company, and enterprise. Security begins with cyber asset visibility, and includes understanding the relationships between those assets. Get started with your free, lifetime license at JupiterOne.com.

In this episode of the People | Process | Technology podcast, I speak with Simon Bennetts from the Zap Project, Christian Folini from the ModSecurity Core Rule Set Project, and Steve Springett from the Dependency Track Project. This is part of an ongoing podcast series, highlighting the OWASP Flagship Projects that will be featured at the OWASP 20th Anniversary Celebration in September. I talk with the project leads to hear what they have been working on for the past year, what their plans are for the coming year, and what we can expect to see at the conference in September. The OWASP 20th Anniversary Celebration is a 24 hour global event, featuring sessions from each of the OWASP flagship projects, leaders of the Top Ten Project, presenters from around the world, and sessions from people who have helped OWASP over the past 20 years. Registration is open, and you can’t beat the cost… it’s free. Even if you can’t attend, please register so you’ll have access to all of the recorded sessions following the conference. For the link check the show notes here on the podcast. Our program was produced today by Executive Editor Mark Miller. Special thanks to today’s guests, Simon Bennetts from the ZAP Project, Christian Folini from the ModSecurity Core Rule Set Project, and Steve Springett from the Dependency Track Project. You can stream our archive of over 160 episodes, for free, at soundCloud.com/owasp-podcast. The show is available on all of your favorite podcasting platforms, including Spotify and Apple Podcasts. Support for this broadcast is provided by OWASP, celebrating twenty years of making software safer. OWASP hosts their 24 hour, 20th Anniversary Celebration in September. Head to 20thAnniversary.owasp.org for your free ticket. Support also provided by JupiterOne, who believes that security is a basic right to every person, company, and enterprise. Security begins with cyber asset visibility, and includes understanding the relationships between those assets. Get started with your free, lifetime license at https://info.jupiterone.com/get-started.

In 2020, Security Magazine listed Sounil Yu as one of the most Influential People in Security in 2020, in part because of his work on the Cyber Defense Matrix, a framework for understanding and navigating your cybersecurity environments. The Cyber Defense Matrix started as a project when Sounil was the Chief Security Scientist at Bank of America. The initial problem he focused on with the matrix was how to evaluate and categorize vendors and the solutions they provided. The Cyber Defense Matrix is a structured framework that allows a company to understand who their vendors are, what they do, how they work along side one another, what problem they profess to solve, and ultimately to find gaps in the company’s portfolio of capabilities. In the seven years Sounil has been working on the project, he has developed use cases that make the Cyber Defense Matrix practical for purposes such as rationalizing technology purchases, defining metrics and measurements, and identifying control gaps and opportunities. The matrix has been adopted by the OWASP Foundation as a community project. Elements of the matrix have been incorporated into the Center for Internet Security’s (CIS) Top 20 Critical Security Controls. I talked with Sounil to hear how the project was going, what his plans are for the future of the matrix, and what help he can use from the community for expanding its usefulness. ABOUT SOUNIL YU Before Sounil Yu joined JupiterOne as CISO and Head of Research, he was the CISO-in-Residence for YL Ventures, where he worked closely with aspiring entrepreneurs to validate their startup ideas and develop approaches for hard problems in cybersecurity. Prior to that role, Yu served at Bank of America as their Chief Security Scientist and at Booz Allen Hamilton where he helped improve security at several Fortune 100 companies and government agencies.

The Top 10 is considered one of the most important community contributions to come out OWASP. In 2003, just two years after organization was started, the OWASP Top 10 was created. The purpose of the project was to create an awareness document, highlighting the top ten exploits security professionals should be aware of. Since that time, innumerable organizations have used it as a guideline or framework for creating security programs. The current Top 10 list was released four years ago, in 2017. As part of a 2021 initiative at OWASP, the OWASP Top 10 is in the process of being updated, and scheduled for release this summer, in time for the OWASP 20th Anniversary Celebration. I was curious as to what has changed over the years with the Top 10, and what to anticipate in the upcoming release. In this broadcast, I talk with Andrew van Der Stock, Executive Direct of OWASP. He explains how the top ten exploits are chosen, the data source for determining the exploits, and the data research done to verify the selections chosen. Our conversation starts with why the OWASP Top 10 is being spotlighted after being static for the past four years. Today’s broadcast is supported by the OWASP 20th Anniversary Celebration, coming September 2021. The CFP is now open for this online, 24 hour conference. Go to OWASP.org for more information. This broadcast is also supported by JupiterOne, providing cyber asset discovery and visibility into your entire cloud native infrastructure. Know more, fear less, with JupiterOne. CFP for OWASP 20th Anniversary Celebration: https://owasp.org/2021/03/08/cfp-20th-anniversary.html

When Shannon Lietz and the team at DevSecOps.org published the DevSecOps Manifesto six years ago, security was uppermost in their minds. The manifesto starts with a call to arms… “Through Security as Code, we have and will learn that there is simply a better way for security practitioners, like us, to operate and contribute value with less friction. We know we must adapt our ways quickly and foster innovation to ensure data security and privacy issues are not left behind because we were too slow to change.” The effect of the DevSecOps movement was not understood by many, other than the handful of practitioners who understood what the team was going after: security is the responsibility of everyone, not just the security team. Security deserves a seat at the DevOps table. Fast forward six years, and security is now not just at the table, but sitting at the head of the table, leading the way. During this transition to focus on security, operations has become the short leg on a three legged stool. What was original a two team party, Dev and Ops, became a threesome, gradually ignoring operations as Developers and Security built a strong relationship. Damon Edwards has been my go-to person when I want to talk to someone about how operations continues to be relevant as the third part of DevSecOps. I caught up with Damon a couple weeks back to talk with him about how the transition to enterprise automation is going in the industry, what has been happening in the past year with the COVID lockdown, and what he’s looking forward to in 2021. I started the conversation, asking how he perceives his role in the DevSecOps Community. ---------- This broadcast is supported by OWASP, the Open Web Application Security Project, host of “Call to Battle” a series of events for gamers, challenge champs, and fun-nerds. Get more information at owasp.org/events… and by JupiterOne.com featuring solutions that help you “Know more. Fear less” by mapping your cyber assets and knowing the relationships between those assets.

This is Mark Miller, Executive Producer. Over the years as I’ve produced the show, the topics of focus have followed the trends in the industry. What was originally called “The OWASP Podcast” became “OWASP 24/7” and then “The DevSecOps Podcast”. Each change brought with it a new audience, extending our community from exclusively OWASP practitioners, to DevOps and DevSecOps advocates. The audience for the podcast has grown, with close to 500,000 listens of the 150 episodes. We’ve covered book launches by speaking with the authors, we’ve talked about industry reports focusing on the Software Supply Chain. Topics have included Chaos Engineering, efforts to create a Software Bill of Materials initiative at the federal level, Threat Modeling and a multitude of other topics. You might have noticed something different, a new name for the podcast, at the beginning of the program today. Keeping a feel of the pulse of the industry is one of the things that interests me most as producer of the series. Currently, People, Process and Technology is starting to get its due The realization that these are not three things, but one thing that is intertwined into a convoluted, unimaginably complex whole is something that deserves our attention, and that will be our focus over the coming year. We’ll talk with practitioners who are creating security patterns for each leg of the People, Process, Technology triptych. We’ll continue to highlight OWASP projects that are focused on security, and how it relates to all aspects of technology. Guests will include leaders in the industry who are responsible for driving security, not as a stand-alone initiative, but as an integrated part of their business. Developing a secure development environment, one that builds quality into the process is something that should be of concern to everyone in that process. My desire is to help expose the practitioners who are thinking about the next generation of security, and how you can use their insights to help us build a safer world. Thank you for your continuing support. I’m excited to be expanding the program and hope you’ll stay with us for People, Process, and Technology. Support for this broadcast is provided by OWASP and JupiterOne.

OWASP is in a state of discord. Over the past few years, there have been fractures in the community. Recently, there have been arguments on the leader email list that have clearly breached the lines of etiquette. Personal attacks, distribution of funds, and complaints of lack of diversity are creating tension among the members. If we, as an organization refuse to confront these issues, there is a real potential we will no longer have relevance to the AppSec community. The in-fighting has become a detriment to chapter leaders and project leaders, who are looking to OWASP for consistent leadership and direction. In early July, the OWASP board announced the appointment of Andrew van der Stock as Executive Director. I called and spoke with Andrew at length about how he intends to confront the existing issues in the organization, and what he hopes to accomplish during his tenure. I have known Andrew for years through his work on the Application Security Verification Standard. As a previous OWASP board member, he has insight into how the board works and how to make changes. In our discussion, we spoke directly about the current problems at OWASP and Andrew's vision for moving the organization forward by confronting existing problems in policy, rewriting sections of the bylaws, and setting up enforcement of those bylaws. Andrew has not set himself an easy task. The push-back is sure to cause more strife in the beginning, but he is determined to implement changes that will make OWASP stronger in the long run, and put us on a course to continue to be a leading role to the AppSec community. In the spirit of transparency and open discussion, Andrew answered every question I had for him. He intends to continue this discussion with the community through the creation of live-online discussions. For now, Andrew is ready to implement his vision for OWASP, as he talks about here. Let's get started.

In this episode of the DevSecOps Podcast, we’re going to go off script and explore the LinkedIn algorithm. I could tie this back to DevSecOps, and how all of us need visibility for our work, or how important it is to build a community around our ideas, but the real reason is… I find this fascinating. One of the largest community engagement platforms in the world encourages us to play their game, but doesn’t tell us what the rules are! How are we to determine the best way to participate, when we have no idea on how to best contribute to maximize our visibility? Because that’s the game we are playing: how do we get, and maintain, visibility for our ideas on LinkedIn. How do we grow that visibility into an audience of our peers in order to contribute and expand those ideas. It is to the benefit of LinkedIn to give basic rules of engagement, but instead of guidelines for participation, we are punished for breaking undefined rules and rewarded for seemingly arbitrary reasons, which we then try to recreate without knowing why they were promoted. To add more complexity to the mix, the rules can change at any time. Is it a loser’s game, or are there fundamental patterns we can surface that will help give some visibility into the LinkedIn algorithm? For years, I’ve been making intuitive guesses as the best way to work on the platform. This lead me to the work of Andy Foote, from LinkedInsights, and Richard van der Blom, founder of Just Connecting, Through their research, they have found patterns that we might be able to use to expand our visibility and engagement on LinkedIn. I say “might”, because when you don’t know the rules, you don’t know when the rules change. On May 8, 2020, Richard, Andy and I sat down to discuss their research into the algorithm that determines how much visibility your content gets on LinkedIn. Andy’s article, “The LinkedIn Algorithm Explained In 25 Frequently Asked Questions” and Richard’s investigations which turned into “The LinkedIn Research Algorithm”, were the basis for our discussion. What I learned from them immediately changed how I engage with LinkedIn. When I say “immediately”, I mean within minutes of talking with them. Resources from this episode Richard van der Blom offers customized LinkedIn training sessions at Just Connecting https://www.justconnecting.nl/en/ Andy Foote offers LinkedIn coaching sessions at LinkedInsights.com The LinkedIn Algorithm Explained In 25 Frequently Asked Questions by Andy Foote https://www.linkedinsights.com/the-linkedin-algorithm-explained-in-25-frequently-asked-questions/ The LinkedIn Algorithm Full Report by Richard van der Blom https://www.slideshare.net/RichardvdBlom/full-report-linked-in-algorithm-july-2019

When I read Richard Stiennon's latest article in Forbes, The Demise of Symantec, I thought it was absolutely fascinating. Richard walks through the process of what happened at Symantec, how it was an acquisition engine for so many years, and now how it's started to decline. I got in touch with Richard and told him I'd like to have him read his article for the podcast, and he responded right away. What you'll hear in this episode is Richard talking about and reading from his article, The Demise of Symantec. Resources for this podcast: The Demise of Symantec, Forbes Online https://www.forbes.com/sites/richardstiennon/2020/03/16/the-demise-of-symantec/#6522117b5fc7 Security Yearbook 2020 https://www.security-yearbook.com/

Equifax is trying... I mean REALLY trying... to regain your trust. The Equifax CTO and CISO delivered the keynote at DevSecOps Days during 2020 RSAC. They contributed to multiple sessions and panels during the conference. The message was consistant: "Yes, we had a major problem. Here's what we're doing about it. Here's what you can learn from us." From a technical perspective, Bryson Koehler, CTO, and Jamil Farshchi, CISO, took on all questions from the audience. Nothing was out of bounds. They stayed after the session to talk one-on-one with those who had more questions. The words I heard most from the audience about the session was 'humility' and 'transparency'. That's a far cry from the poster child of breaches image the company has had to carry since 2017. Bryson and I sat down after the session at DevSecOps Days to go more into detail on what Equifax is working on, not just to re-gain user confidence, but to make a difference in the technology industry when it comes to lessons learned. He and Jamil are in the process of rebuilding the technology infrastructure at Equifax. They want to create a self-service, customer driven platform, that will include security as part of an automated solution to the future of data privacy. They are willing to openly share what they are working on, what has worked, what hasn't worked, all while building transparency into the process so that everyone can learn, not just the engineering team at Equifax. In this episode, we start with how Bryson felt the audience responded to the message from the stage, and what he had hoped to accomplish by stepping into the public spotlight.

If you like what you hear, you can download the entire book at sonatype.com/epicfailures As we were putting the finishing touches, getting ready to publish the latest version of Epic Failures in DevSecOps, I reread Jaclyn Damiano's chapter and was struck by how unique her message is. This is a personal story, one that will resonate with many people in the tech industry. It's a story of beginnings, of hardships, of leadership and finally, how all that combines into something much bigger than a technology solution. It's a story that talks about transforming people, not just companies. What you'll hear in this broadcast is Jaclyn reading her chapter, "Making Everyone Visible in Tech". There's no narrator, no discussion, just Jaclyn in her own words telling the story behind The Athena Project. It's a story of how she and her team took a diverse set of 40 applicants from underserved communities, with little to no technical background, and created a program to train and place those attendees in the tech industry. It's an inspiring story that needs to be heard.

The 2019 State of the Software Supply Chain Report was released on June 25th. The report is an analysis of the answers from over 5500 participants, allowing data researchers the ability to extrapolate what the most productive enterprises are doing when it comes to managing the software supply chain, and how that compares to less efficient development practices. The purpose of the analysis was to objectively examine and empirically document, release patterns and hygiene practices across 36,000 open source project teams and 3.7 million open source releases. In this conversation I speak with Derek Weeks, Project Lead for the report, and Stephen Magil, who along with Gene Kim, acted as research partners on the report. If you've been looking for verified research that can be used to help justify a DevOps initiative, or to validate the value of DevOps projects within your company, you'll want to stay with us.

Let's not talk around the subject here... women are under represented when it comes to speaking or participating in tech conferences. It's a male dominated culture. When I saw Lani Rosales had published, "The Ultimate list of Austin women who can speak at your tech event" in response to the complaint that there are no women speakers available in the tech industry, I called her right away. As co-founder of the world's largest DevOps conference, All Day DevOps, and as one of the core organizers of the global DevSecOps Days series of events, I wanted to hear how the list came together, her motiviation for creating the list and how the tech community has responded to an overt call for women speakers. One of the most surprising topics during our conversation was the continual reference to "the vanity of diversity". Lani is opposed to replacing males speakers just for the sake of having a token female speaker or panelists. As she says it, "Let's not remove male speakers, let's add female speakers." When she said that, it resonated with me. That's how true diversity works: add women, don't subtract men. Lani's vision is to make attendees, all attendees, feel welcome, represented and given the feeling that their way of thinking is welcome in the room, in the conference, and in the community. That's the true reason for diversity, and that's what we'll be talking about today. The Ultimate List of Austin Women Who Can Speak at Your Tech Event https://theamericangenius.com/tech-news/austin-women/

I produced my first concert at the San Anselmo Playhouse in 1979. It was the first in a series of events that has lasted 40 years. I have produced more than 300 events and participated in many hundreds more as a speaker and participant. As the producer of this many events, I have an internal map of what to do to make an event successful, the steps to create and manage the logistics of an event, and how to promote them. All Day DevOps, a live online conference I co-founded with Derek Weeks, has over 30,000 registrations yearly. This type of involvement gives me a unique perspective into why an event is successful. In the past few years, I've been sketching out a "How To.." manual on producing successful events. When the book "Building Internal Conferences" came across my radar, my first thought was "Good! Something I won't have to do." After looking through the book, I called authors Matthew Skelton and Victoria Morgan-Smith to trade stories on tips and tricks for managing successful events. You might ask yourself at this point, "Why is this being covered on a tech podcast?" With so much to choose from when it comes to webinars, meetups, user groups and conferences, many companies are choosing to host their own event internally, or participate as supporters of a regional event. Industry conferences such as DevOps Days, DevSecOps Days, and SharePoint Saturday are run by local teams who are engaged in community development and education. This episode of the DevSecOps Podcast focuses on helping you as an event organizer avoid the "Epic Failures" that would stop your event from being a success. Where to find the book: https://confluxdigital.net/conflux-books/book-internal-tech-conferences

In April 2019, I was invited to host a panel at the International Conference on Cyber Engagement in Washington DC, to discuss "Securing the Software Supply Chain". On the panel were four of the top voices in software supply chain management: - Edna Conway, Chief Security Officer, Global Value Chain, at CISCO - Joyce Corell, Assistant Director, Supply Chain and Cyber Directorate, National Counterintelligence and Security Center, US Office of the Director of National Intelligence - Bob Kolasky, Director, National Risk Management Center, Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, US Department of Homeland Security - Dr. Suzanne Schwartz, Associate Director for Science & Strategic Partnerships, Center for Devices & Radiological Health, US Food & Drug Administration This episode of the DevSecOps Podcast is the full session from the conference. It is an extended session, running an hour and a half, significantly longer that our usual broadcast. I think you'll find it worth the time. Thank you to the ICCE for allowing rebroadcast of the panel. Pull up a chair, sit back, and listen in as we discuss Securing the Software Supply Chain.

When I think of Tel Aviv, I imagine a robust, young culture, living a good, fun life. Not only is the culture conducive to a young life style, its tech industry continues to gain traction. As Wired Magazine said last August, "Israeli startups have always been high on Silicon Valley shopping lists, but Tel Aviv is beginning to shake off its reputation as Europe’s exit capital." Zebra, the medical diagnostics company, MyHeritage online family tree service, Via ride sharing service, and the Waze navigation app, as well as dozens of other influencial start-ups call Tel Aviv home. This places Tel Aviv at the heart of the tech industry in Isreal and encourages conferences and gatherings on a regional, as well as global scale. In this broadcast, I speak with Avi Douglen and Ofer Moar, co-chairs of the upcoming Global AppSec Conference in Tel Aviv. They are both active participates in OWASP and the security community. I called them to find out more about the conference, how it's different from other conferences and what participants can expect as takeaways from the event. More information and registration: https://telaviv.appsecglobal.org/

If you've read the Phoenix Project, you'll remember Brent, the indispensable cog on the operations team. Brent was a good guy, he wanted to do the right things, all of the right things, but was pulled in all directions because of the lack of a unified plan for the company's project workflow. But what if Brent didn't want to do the "right" thing? What if Brent was more interested in the convenience of getting his work done than he was in the overall health and output of the project. What if he deployed to production without checking into SourceSafe, not just once, but for years. From Tanya janca: I went to our trusty code repository, took a copy of the most recent code. I went looking for the bug, and I couldn't even find it. And then I'm running it locally, and I'm looking at the real one in prod. And they're completely different. I'm like, "What would have happened if I had pushed to prod? If I fixed that bug, and pushed to prod, and not noticed the difference?" And he's like, "All my work would have been gone. That would have been your mistake." I'm like, "Are you kidding?" He's like, "It's just easier if I check it in directly, if I just edit it right on the web server. It's just easier for me." I'm like, "Oh. Is it easier to do a shitty job? No. No, no, no. In today's episode, Tanya Janca, Cloud Security Advocate, Microsoft, expands on her just published article, "DevSecOps: Securing Software in a DevOps World", clarifying each of the 5 tactics she uses to integrate not just security into the software development process, but how to manage people as part of that process. Have a listen...

Three years ago there was an idea floating around OWASP... a core community was looking for a way to have an isolated week, where security project working groups could get together, with no distractions, and work on projects they felt were important. From this idea, the Open Security Summit was founded. Now in it's third year, the summit takes place in an isolated forest located between London and Manchester. The format for the gathering is to present an environment, with no distractions, where the community of 150 security professionals can meet to update each other on their progress in the past year and to choose working groups to outline and work on future projects. This is not a podium lecture series conference. It is a 5-day high-energy experience, during which attendees get the chance to work and collaborate intensively. Each working session is geared towards a specific Application Security challenge and will be focused on actionable outcomes. In this episode, I speak with Seba (Sayba) Deleersnyder, Denis Cruz, Jemma Davis and Francois Raynaud, core organizers of the event, talking about why they started the event, what has changed over the years and what you can expect as an attendee at the Open Security Summit. https://opensecuritysummit.org/

Open-source components and their use within the software supply chain has become ubiquitous within the past few years. Current estimates are that 80-90% of new software applications consist of open-source components and frameworks. Section A9 of the OWASP Top 10 places components with known vulnerabilities as one of the most prevalent and abused parts of the software supply chain, placing it at a security weakness level of three, on a scale from one to three. Quoting from the OWASP description in A9, "Component-heavy development patterns can lead to development teams not even understanding which components they use in their applications or APIs, much less keeping them up to date." In today's episode, I speak with Allan Friedman, Director of Cybersecurity Initiatives at the National Telecommunications and Information Administration. Our talk focused on the creation of a Software Bill of Materials, or an SBOM. As we begin, Allan describes his role in the project and what they hope to accomplish. About Allan Friedman I'm the Director of Cybersecurity Initiatives at the National Telecommunications and Information Administration, or NTIA. We're a tiny part of the US Department of Commerce, and our mission really is about promoting a free, open, and trustworthy internet. Over the past few years, we've engaged in what we call "multistakeholder processes", trying to identify areas where the entire digital ecosystem can come together on things that they care about and make progress. So the government doesn't have a vested interest in the outcome, we just feel that we'll all be better off if the community can find common ground and consensus.

"Chaos engineering is an empirical practice of setting up experiments to figure out where your system is vulnerable so that you can know that ahead of time and proactively fix some of these vulnerabilities in your system." -- Casey Rosenthal In this broadcast, I speak with Casey Rosenthal about the beginnings of Chaos Engineering and Netflix and how the concept has morphed into a cross-industry community, sharing ideas through local chaos conferences.

The Ladies of London Hacking Society was created by Eliza-May Austin in an act of frustration.Having nowhere to turn to meet other women within the security industry in the UK,Eliza-May fired off an online post lamenting the lack of local community support for technical security-based women. Her story is a common one. The post seemed to resonate with the local community. In a short time, she had close to 500 women join her London Meetup Group, focusing on sharing technical skills and industry stories.

What am I working on? What can go wrong? What am I going to do about it? Did I do a good job? These are the four questions at the heart of threat modeling In this episode, I speak with Adam Shostack, author of Threat Modeling: Designing for Security. We talk through how to begin threat modeling and the expectations of using modeling. Adam walks through the history of threat modeling, including his creation of the Elevation of Privilege game.

This is the sixth episode in an eight part series, talking with the authors of "Epic Failures in DevSecOps". In this segment, I speak with Chris Roberts about his chapter, "We are all special snowflakes", diving into topics as diverse as the failure of the security industry to protect us from ourselves and what is considered "acceptable" monitoring when it comes to the government, and to social sites. You can download a free copy of Epic Failures at DevSecOpsDays.com

The inclusion of security as an integral piece of the DevOps puzzle continues to gain traction. In this episode of the DevSecOps Days Podcast Series, I speak with Curtis Yanko and Scott McCarty about their new book, "A Concise Introduction to DevSecOps". We discuss why they wrote the book, who the audience is that will benefit from it and why enterprises should be considering security as part of the software development environment.

As if there aren't enough reasons to go to Southern California in the middle of a New York winter, AppSec Cali opens it's doors for its 6th Annual OWASP conference on January 22, 2019. In this broadcast, I speak with Richard Greenberg, one of the core organizers of the conference, talking about why people come, what they can expect to see and why he continues to help produce the conference year after year. For a transcript of this broadcast, go to DevSecOpsDays.com and click on "Podcasts".

Aubrey Stearn is the Technical Lead for the Enterprise Cloud Platform at Nationwide. In the broadcast we talk with Aubrey about her chapter, "The Tale of the Burning Programme", in the recently released "Epic Failures in DevSecOps" book. Aubrey talks about her extensive experience guiding and molding teams, leading the way through the maze of decisions needed in order to build a more productive and efficient engineering culture. We start off the discussion with "Why is our biggest problem DevOps, itself?"

"In the past when we were writing software, it was our engineers and our organizations that had total cost of ownership of that software. But now, that has fundamentally changed. Engineers are using open source software and deploying the entire application on an open source framework, which means a large part of the software supply chain is no longer owned by the engineer. " -- Chetan Conikee In this episode of the DevSecOps Days Podcast Series, I speak with Chetan Conikee about his chapter in the Epic Failures in DevSecOps book. About Chetan Conikee Chetan Conikee is a serial entrepreneur with over 20+ years of experience in authoring and architecting and securing mission-critical software. His expertise includes building web-scale distributed infrastructure, cybersecurity, personalization algorithms, complex event processing, fraud detection and prevention in investment/retail banking domains. He currently serves as CTO/Founder at ShiftLeft, and most recently Chief Data Officer and GM Operations at Cloud- Physics. Prior to CloudPhysics, Chetan was part of early founding teams at CashEdge (acquired FiServ), Business Signatures (acquired Entrust)and EndForce (acquired Sophos).

We continue the "Epic Failures in DevSecOps" series by speaking with Edwin Kwan on his chapter, "Threat Modeling - A Disaster Story". Edwin is Application and Software Security Team Lead at Tyro Payments. In our discussion, we talk about the three things he learned through his "Epic Failure": -- Demonstrate value at the buy-in -- Get early feedback -- Automate as much as possible During our discussion, we talk at length about the role of security and how to begin implementing automation at the earliest stages of the development process. About Edwin Kwan Edwin Kwan is the Application and Software Security Team Lead for a bank. His approach toward application and software security is to raise security awareness, provide light touch controls to the software development life cycle to increase visibility of security issues and work closely with engineering teams to quickly develop secure applications. Edwin started out as a software engineer and transitioned into the application security role to lead a range of security initiatives when the company was working towards obtaining an unrestricted banking licence. As a Software Engineer, he has over a decade of experience developing large scale; real-time; high performance; high reliability software applications for major telecommunication vendors. He is also experienced in working with stakeholders from small to large organisations to design and develop innovation solutions to help manage and grow their business.

Stefan Streichsbier talks about his chapter, "Unicorn Rodeos", in the just released book, "Epic Failures in DevSecOps". We start with where did the chapter name come from and what does it mean, then lead into his three main points for hanging on for the rodeo ride: -- Don't waste time over-engineering -- Build for the right audience -- Find your champions We conclude with a discussion of technology trends in South East Asia and Indonesia. People mentioned include Gene Kim, Caroline Wong, Fabian Lim, Mohamed Imran, Magda Chelly, Edwin Kwan, DJ Schleen and others.

DJ Schleen talks about his upcoming 15 part video series, "The DevSecOps Experiment", where he will walk through the setup of a software supply chain, including building in security during every step of the process. This is a lab workshop type series, where you'll be able to immediately implement the solutions at the end of each 15 minute session. DJ will be available to answer your questions on his public slack channel as well as provide resources in the DevSecOps Days github repository. This is a free, online workshop series. To be notified when each segment of the series is released, please sign up for notification on DevSecOpsDays.com

In this broadcast, I speak with Chris Roberts and Derek Weeks about lines of responsibility and npm package highjacking in light of the event-stream vulnerability announcement last week. The announcement of the event-stream npm package vulnerability has once again raised the issue of who it ultimately responsible when a breach like this is announced. Is it the original creator of the package? What about the team maintaining the package? Where does' the end user fit it in? How does social engineering come into play?

Once again, the pattern of taking over a known package and modifying it with malicious intent has happened. In this case, it's with the event-stream module in the npm repository. In this broadcast I speaker with Thomas Hunter, Software Developer at Intrinsic and author of "Compromised npm Package: event-stream", and Brian Fox, CTO of Sonatype, author of the Forbes "Open Source Developers And Infrastructure Are The New Front Line Of Security?" article. Compromised npm Package: event-stream https://medium.com/intrinsic/compromi... Open Source Developers And Infrastructure Are The New Front Line Of Security https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbestechcouncil/2018/05/11/open-source-developers-and-infrastructure-are-the-new-front-line-of-security/#2ad9e84457c2 Open Source Software Is Under Attack; New Event-Stream Hack Is Latest Proof https://blog.sonatype.com/open-source-software-is-under-attack-new-event-stream-hack-is-latest-proof

"The guy who wrote wifi software with SSID never imagined that someone could use that SSID to transmit data by writing two smaller applications to leverage it. We are constantly going to be in this [type of] battle. Ultimately we've got to find a way to stay ahead of it by understanding the mechanisms by which we're writing the abuse case possibilities." -- Shannon Lietz Following their session at DevOps Enterprise Summit 2018, I sat down and talked with Shannon Lietz and James Wickett to talk about who the real adversaries are when it comes to application security, what you can do to expose those adversaries and steps to get started in your own, internal adversary program. About Shannon Lietz DevSecOps Leader for Intuit Shannon Lietz is an award winning innovator with over two decades of experience pursuing advanced security defenses and next generation security solutions. Ms. Lietz is currently the DevSecOps Leader for Intuit where she is responsible for setting and driving the company’s DevSecOps and cloud security strategy, roadmap and implementation in support of corporate innovation. She operates a 24x7 DevSecOps team that specializes in Adversary Management. Prior to joining Intuit, Ms. Lietz worked for ServiceNow where she was responsible for the cloud security engineering efforts and Sony where she drove the implementation of a new secure data center. Ms. Lietz has significant experience leading crisis management large-scale security breaches and restoration of services for several Fortune 500 companies. She has previous experience as a founder a metrics company, leading major initiatives for hosting providers as a Master Security Architect, developing security software and consulting for many Fortune 500 companies globally. Ms. Lietz is an IANS faculty member and holds a Bachelors of Science degree in Biological Sciences from Mount St. Mary’s College. About James Wickett Head of Research, Signal Sciences James spends a lot of time at the intersection of the DevOps and Security communities. He works as Head of Research at Signal Sciences and is a supporter of the Rugged Software and DevSecOps movements. Seeing the gap in software testing, James founded an open source project, Gauntlt, to serve as a Rugged Testing Framework. He is the author of several security and DevOps courses onLinkedIn Learning, including: DevOps Foundations, Infrastructure as Code, DevSecOps: Automated Security Testing, Continuous Delivery (CI/CD), and Site Reliability Engineering. He got his start in technology when he founded a startup as a student at the University of Oklahoma and has since worked in environments ranging from large, web-scale enterprises to small, rapid-growth startups. He is a dynamic speaker on topics in DevOps, AppSec, InfoSec, cloud security, automated security testing, DevSecOps and serverless. James is the creator and founder of the Lonestar Application Security Conference which is the largest annual security conference in Austin, TX. He also runs DevOps Days Austin and previously served on the global DevOps Days board. He also bears several security certifications including CISSP and GWAPT.

"If you look inside a large enterprise IT organization, they have this very bizarre and broken layer that's completely separating the way that business thinks in terms of products, budgets and costs, and the way IT people know the way they need to innovate, which is delivering products faster." -- Mik Kersten I sat down with Mik Kersten, CEO of TaskTop, and John Willis after Mik's presentation at DOES2018. His new book, Projects to Products, is an attempt to help the industry move from using success metrics more appropriate for the industrial age, to a new type of measurement where value is measured as part of the overall business goal through Value Stream Mapping. About Mik Kersten Dr. Mik Kersten is the CEO of Tasktop Technologies, creator and leader of the Eclipse Mylyn open source project and inventor of the task-focused interface. As a research scientist at Xerox PARC, Mik implemented the first aspect-oriented programming tools for AspectJ. He created Mylyn and the task-focused interface during his PhD in Computer Science at the University of British Columbia. Mik has been an Eclipse committer since 2002, is an elected member of the Eclipse Board of Directors and serves on the Eclipse Architecture and Planning councils. Mik's thought leadership on task-focused collaboration makes him a popular speaker at software conferences, and he was voted a JavaOne Rock Star speaker in 2008 and 2009. Mik enjoys building tools that offload our brains and make it easier to get creative work done. Specialties: Software Development Tools, Productivity tools, Task-Focused Interfaces, Application Lifecycle Management, Agile, Management, Aspect-Oriented Programming, Eclipse, Java

Why would you allow open source usage in your company. What are the compelling reasons to take the risk. In this discussion, I talk with Topo Pal and Derek Weeks about the industry perception of open source and what's really happening behind the curtain at large enterprises. Topo had just finished his keynote presentation at DevOps Enterprise Summit 2018 and I wanted to dive a little deeper into some of the things he talked about. About Topo Pal Dr. Topo Pal is Senior Director & Sr. Engineering Fellow Capital One. His main areas of expertise are in DevOps/DevOpsSec/ Rugged DevOps and Continuous Integration, Continuous Delivery. Topo is also interested in Natural Language Processing, Information Extraction, Architecture Strategy, Application Architecture and Integration Architecture. About Derek Weeks Derek E. Weeks, Vice President, Sonatype. Derek is a huge advocate of applying proven supply chain management principles into DevOps practices to improve efficiencies and sustain long-lasting competitive advantages. He currently serves as vice president and DevOps advocate at Sonatype, creators of the Nexus repository manager and the global leader in solutions for software supply chain automation. Derek is also the co-founder of All Day DevOps, an online community of 40,000 IT professionals, and the lead researcher behind the annual State of the Software Supply Chain report for the DevOps industry. In 2018, Derek was recognized by DevOps.com as the "Best DevOps Evangelist" for his work in the community.

"The compensation, the incentives that people have are very much anchored in short term objectives that do not take into account the vision for the bigger transformations that are happening within the market." -- Sacha Labourey, CEO, CloudBees Sacha Labourey runs one of the most visible, respected companies within the DevOps and DevSecOps communities. At Jenkins World 2018, I sat down with Sacha to hear how his year went, how security can become more of an important process within the software development pipeline and how the Jenkins community adds value to the company.

While at 2018 AppSec EU, I spoke with Sam Stepanyan and Grigorios Fragkos, chapter leaders of one of OWASP's largest chapters. The conversation centered around what does it take to grow a community, what does it take to lead a chapter.

This is Mark Miller, Executive Producer. 4 years ago I took over the creation and curation of the OWASP podcast series. In that time, there have been 118 episodes, with a combined listenership of over 269,000 plays. The series began as a way to speak with OWASP project leads and chapters leaders to let the community hear what was being worked on. Gradually, the show has morphed into something broader. Recent broadcasts highlighting the work done in the DevOps and DevSecOps Communities receives well over 2000 listeners per episode. We have helped give exposure to DevSecOps practitioners at major AppSec Conferences in Europe and the United States, I have produced the DevSecOps tracks at RSA Conference in San Francisco and Singapore for the past 3 years, and we've given voice to the security practitioner in lieu of the security vendor through the production of All Day DevOps. This has allowed us to reach out to new communities, a new listenership, interested in hearing how software security is changing from a manual, labor intensive process, to an automated, supply chain solution. Cultural transformation, Continuous Delivery/Continuous integration, Cloud Native Infrastructure, and Site Reliability Engineer are all topics needing coverage if we are to truly build secure software. The future of this podcast series is in focusing on DevSecOps and the practitioners who are willing to share their stories and solutions to the OWASP Community. I'll talk with people like DJ Schleen who runs the DevSecOps initiative at Aetna, John Willis who brought the first DevOps Days to the United States, and Shannon Lietz who has introduced the concept of Red Teams to her colleagues at Intuit. We will continue to highlight OWASP projects and chapters, while having discussions that are inclusive of other communities with different ideas on the future of software security. It's an important transition historically to a safer, more secure world and we want everyone be be a part of it. I hope you stay with us as we begin to explore new voices, expand on existing ideas and highlight the diversity that will truly change our industry. Welcome to the new podcast series, DevSecOps Days.

In this episode, I speak with the organizing committee of 2018 AppSec EU, hearing about what's planned and why you should consider attending this international conference in London.

On March 1, 2018, the team at Semmle announced a critical vulnerability in the Pivotal Spring framework. The vulnerability was found by security researcher Man Yue Mo at Semmle — the team behind lgtm.com. In this episode of OWASP 24/7, I speak with research team at Semmle on how they discovered the vulnerability. Also, Brian Fox joins the discussion on the process for responsible disclosure, different ways to approach it and what other companies and projects are doing when a vulnerability is found in their project. About Man Yue Mo — Security Researcher at Semmle for lgtm.com During his PhD in mathematics at Oxford, Mo became interested in scientific algorithm development with a focus on data science and machine learning. At Semmle, Mo developed an interest in Semmle's core technology for writing queries over source code. This QL query technology is freely available on lgtm.com for the open source community to use for analyzing their code. Mo has since used QL to identify numerous security vulnerabilities, including CVE-2017-8046 in Pivotal's Spring Data REST, and the infamous CVE-2017-9805 in Apache Struts. He continues to works closely with the open source community to ensure these vulnerabilities are patched and responsibly disclosed. The blog on https://lgtm.com/blog contains various articles by Mo on how to use QL for security research. About Bas van Schaik — Head of Product at Semmle As the Head of Product at Semmle, Bas is responsible for the entire product portfolio — from the core QL query technology, to lgtm.com where this technology is made freely available to the open source community. Following his PhD in Computer Science at Oxford, Bas joined Semmle to work on machine learning and data science techniques for extracting insights from software engineering data. After setting up a strong team of machine learning experts, he now works closely with engineers and leaders to ensure that Semmle's products are effective in all parts of the software development process — to secure and improve code, reduce risk, and deliver actionable insights. He works closely with pioneers in the open source community, as well as with developers and leaders at organizations such as Google, Microsoft, NASA, Credit Suisse, NASDAQ, and Dell. About Brian Fox, CTO, Sonatype Co-founder and CTO, Brian Fox is a member of the Apache Software Foundation and former Chair of the Apache Maven project. As a direct contributor to the Maven ecosystem, including the maven-dependency-plugin and maven-enforcer-plugin, he has over 20 years of experience driving the vision behind, as well as developing and leading the development of software for organizations ranging from startups to large enterprises. Brian is a frequent speaker at national and regional events including Java User Groups and other development related conferences.

Shannon Lietz, Caroline Wong and Paula Thrasher will give the opening remarks at DevOps Connect: DevSecOps Days on April 16 at the RSAC Conference in San Francisco. On today's show, I talk with Shannon, Caroline and Paula, on what they hope to accomplish during their talk, and why DevSecOps is becoming the hottest topic in this year's growth of the DevOps Community.

Prior to his work as Principal Software Assurance Engineer at MITRE, Kevin E. Greene was R&D Program Manager for the Department of Homeland Security. He is currently on the organizing committee for HackNYC, helping to organize talks and sessions around protecting and securing our national infrastructure. I spoke with Kevin about the current state of software security and how each of us can play a roll in the security of modern software. About Kevin E. Greene With more than 17 years of information assurance and security experience in security program management, assessment, auditing, and testing, Kevin Greene brings valuable skills and capabilities to the Department of Homeland Security Science and Technology Directorate (DHS S&T). As a member of the Homeland Security Advanced Research Projects Agency (HSARPA) Cyber Security Division, Greene has identified, developed, and transitioned technology projects through multiple commercial and academic organizations for the past two years. Responsible for the oversight and management of research and development projects for improving the testing, analysis, and evaluation techniques used in software quality assurance tools, he currently is focusing on the build-out of the Software Assurance Marketplace (SWAMP), a national marketplace and collaborative research forum designed to advance secure software development best-practices within the industry.

In May, at HackNYC 2018 in New York City, Dr. Bill Curtis' team of Tracie Gerardi and Lev Lesokhin will deliver a presentation on putting an end to "Technical Debt". I spoke with Dr. Curtis about his work in the creation of various maturity models, the current state of security in software development and "what keeps him up at night". You might be surprised at his answer. Listen in... About Dr. Bill Curtis Dr. Bill Curtis (1948) is an American software and organizational scientist. He is best known for leading the development of the Capability Maturity Model [1] (CMM for Software) and the People CMM [2] in the Software Engineering Institute at Carnegie Mellon University. He co-founded TeraQuest, a provider of CMM-based services, which was sold to Borland Software Corporation in 2005. He has published 5 books, over 150 articles, and in 2007 was elected a Fellow of the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers for his career contributions to software process improvement and measurement.

The OpenChain Project identifies key recommended processes for effective open source management. The project builds trust in open source by making open source license compliance simpler and more consistent. In this broadcast, I speak with Shane Coughlan, project director, about the purpose of the project and what his team hopes to accomplish in 2018.

Newly elected to the OWASP board, Greg Anderson is interested in how to expand the OWASP community. I talked with him about what he hope to accomplish in his tenure on the board, the first initiatives he would like to implement and on various ideas for working with OWASP chapters, projects and events. About Greg Anderson Technical leader with 6+ years of experience in all facets of security. Primary areas of expertise include application security, security in DevOps, security automation, program management and program development.

Caroline Wong, Paula Thrasher and I were having lunch at DevOps Enterprise Summit when the conversation took an interesting turn. Paula and Caroline had been on a panel the previous day and didn't get a chance to do a deep dive into any of the topics. As we were talking at lunch, I realized is was a good opportunity to give them a chance to talk with each other on government vs public software security, about how the OWASP Top 10 might best be used and to they have discovered as common security patterns in their large scale projects. About Caroline Wong I am a strategic leader with strong communications skills, cybersecurity knowledge, and experience delivering global programs. My close and practical information security knowledge stems from broad experience as a Cigital consultant, a Symantec product manager, and day-to-day leadership roles at eBay and Zynga. I have been featured as an Influencer in the Women in IT Security issue of SC Magazine, named as one of the Top 10 Women in Cloud by CloudNOW, and received a Women of Influence Award in the One to Watch category from the Executive Women's Forum. I authored the popular textbook Security Metrics: A Beginner's Guide. About Paula Thrasher Paula Thrasher has 20+ years experience in IT and has spent the last 15 years trying to implement Agile culture in the federal government. Paula’s first Agile project was in 2001, since then she has led over 15 programs and projects as an Agile developer, technical lead, Scrum master, or Agile coach. Her teams have helped two separate federal agencies migrate applications to Amazon AWS GovCloud, and done some other amazing DevOps ninja work along the way. Paula is a proud Carnegie Mellon University alumna with a B.S. in Statistics, is a Certified Scrum Master (CSM) and a Project Management Professional (PMP), but prefers learning new things through experience and working with smart people.

In our continuing series on the Struts2 vulnerability announcement and the breach at Equifax, we spoke with Mark Thomas, Director, Apache Software Foundation, and Brian Fox, CTO, Sonatype to clarify the processes ASF goes through when a vulnerability is found within one of their projects. About Mark Thomas Mark is currently employed by Pivotal where he spends most of his time working on Apache Tomcat. At the Apache Software Foundation, Mark is a committer and PMC member for Apache Tomcat as well as other projects. At the foundation level he is an ASF member, a member of the security and trademarks committees, is an infrastructure volunteer and a Director. Mark speaks regularly on Apache Tomcat including at ApacheCon.

A conversation on the ramifications of recent Struts2 announcements, the exploit at Equifax and the responsibility of companies using open source software. David Blevins, CEO, TomiTribe Brian Fox, CTO, Sonatype

What you should know about the latest struts2 vulnerability announcement w/ Brian Fox, CTO Sonatype, and Matthew Konda , Chair, OWASP Board of Directors. If you're a developer and concerned about security, a struts2 vulnerability announcement came out yesterday. I interviewed two experts to talk about the announcement and what you should be looking for. If you would like to watch a video of the interview, you can find it on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtUfPom06bo

Most of us want to help kids become proficient in programming and cybersecurity, but don't know how to get started or have time to manage such a project. Prashant Kv figured he'd put a team together with Vandana Verma and Rupali Dash and give it a shot. The first event in Bangalore was a huge success, with over 200 kids participating. I spoke with the Prashant, Vandana and Rupali about how the event was put together, why it worked and what their plans are for future events.

Earlier this week, Simon Bennetts from the OWASP ZAP Project announced the official availability of the OWASP DockerHub for housing projects. I caught up with Simon soon after to hear how ZAP was utilizing DockerHub and the benefits of containerization. https://hub.docker.com/u/owasp/

This segment of the "Less than 10 Minutes" series was recorded live at AppSec EU 2017 in Belfast. It is an update of the ModSecurity Core Rule Set Project with project co-lead Christian Folini. The OWASP ModSecurity CRS Project's goal is to provide an easily "pluggable" set of generic attack detection rules that provide a base level of protection for any web application. The OWASP ModSecurity Core Rule Set (CRS) is a set of generic attack detection rules for use with ModSecurity or compatible web application firewalls. The CRS aims to protect web applications from a wide range of attacks, including the OWASP Top Ten, with a minimum of false alerts.

This segment of the "Less than 10 Minutes" series was recorded live at AppSec EU 2017 in Belfast. It is an update of the OWASP Summit 2017 with conference organizer Sebastien (Seba) Deleersnyder. OWASP Summit 2017 is a 5-day participant driven event, dedicated to the collaboration of Development and Security professionals, with a strong focus on DevSecOps.

This segment of the "Less than 10 Minutes" series was recorded live at AppSec EU 2017 in Belfast. It is an update of the WebGoat Project with project co-leads Jason White and Nanne Baars. WebGoat is a deliberately insecure web application maintained by OWASP designed to teach web application security lessons.

This segment of the "Less than 10 Minutes" series was recorded live at AppSec EU 2017 in Belfast. It is an update of the Vicnum Project with project lead Nicole Becher. The Vicnum Project is a collection of intentionally vulnerable web applications. Vicnum applications are commonly used in Capture the Flag exercises at security conferences.

This segment of the "Less than 10 Minutes" series was recorded live at AppSec EU 2017 in Belfast. It is an update of the Defect Dojo Project with project lead Greg Anderson. The Defect Dojo is an open source vulnerability management tool that streamlines the testing process by offering templating, report generation, metrics, and baseline self-service tools.

This segment of the "Less than 10 Minutes" series was recorded live at AppSec EU 2017 in Belfast. It is an update of the Virtual Village Project with project lead Evin Hernandez. The Virtual Village provides users with access to numerous operating system's Desktop as well as Servers. Users are able to create custom apps for other OWASP projects, as well as be able to request test environments , or honey pots , etc.

This segment of the "Less than 10 Minutes" series was recorded live at AppSec EU 2017 in Belfast. It is an update of the Juice Shop Project with project lead Bjoern Kimminich. The Juice Shop is an intentionally insecure webapp for security training, written entirely in Javascript which encompasses the entire OWASP Top Ten and other severe security flaws. Bjoern Kimminich (Project Leader OWASP Juice Shop) Personal Twitter: http://twitter.com/bkimminich OWASP Juice Shop Project Twitter: http://twitter.com/owasp_juiceshop Project Wiki Page: https://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_Juice_Shop_Project Main Github Project: https://github.com/bkimminich/juice-shop Juice Shop CTF-Extension Project: https://github.com/bkimminich/juice-shop-ctf

"Why does OWASP even exist? Why do we even have this idea of understanding common issues, common problems. There are resources to help us do it better next time. I feel we are not learning at the curve where we should be, considering the resources available to us." -- Jaya Baloo As CISO of KPN, the largest telecom in the Netherlands, Jaya Baloo has a lot on her mind, but maybe not what you'd think. In this free wheeling discussion, we begin with what Jaya will be talking about during her keynote at AppSec EU 2017 in Belfast, and then move into cryptography, quantum technologies, and her concerns with the way software is currently built.

Brian Fox and Shannon Lietz talk about the recent announcement of the struts 2 vulnerability: What is it, how can it affect you, what you can do about it. You can view this broadcast as video on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzRKOudJPtQ

In mid-May I'll be joining the organizing team of AppSec EU 2017 in Belfast for a week of security and DevOps sessions. Listen in as Gary Robinson, Michelle Simpson and Owen Pendlebury talk about what's planned for the week.

In preparation for her keynote session at AppSec EU 2017 in Belfast, Shannon Lietz continues to explore the integration of DevOps and security. This is a recording of her session at RSAC 2017 in San Francisco.

Shannon Lietz, DevSecOps Lead at Intuit, will be giving a keynote presentation at AppSec EU 2017, Belfast. I talked with Shannon about what she will be presenting and why she is so excited to return to Ireland.

WebGoat is a deliberately insecure web application maintained by OWASP designed to teach web application security lessons. It is one of the most used projects at OWASP. With the current team headed by Bruce Mayhew, Nanne Baars and Jason White, work is moving forward on the creation of new content for creating training lessons for application security. I talked with Bruce and team about what they've done with the latest update and what they hope to accomplish in the coming year.

The OWASP ModSecurity Core Rule Set Project's goal is to provide an easily "pluggable" set of generic attack detection rules that provide a base level of protection for any web application. Chaim Sanders,Ryan Barnett, Christian Folini and Walter Hop are the team coordinating the project. During 2016 AppSec USA, I spoke with Chaim about the purpose of the project, the work work done in the past year, the upcoming release and what the team hopes to accomplish in 2017. https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:OWASP_ModSecurity_Core_Rule_Set_Project

This is a live recording from 2016 IP Expo London, with Shannon Lietz (Intuit), Chris Swan (CSC) and host Mark Miller (Sonatype) discussing the future of security as it relates to DevOps. Shannon and Chris are real world practitioners, bringing stories from the trenches. We initially start with where the term DevSecOps came from, then move on to the future of automated security as part of the DevOps ecosystem.

Today's podcast is the fourth in a series of four, talking with prospective 2016 board members. Today's question is, "What is more important to you as a candidate 1) Members 2) Projects 3) Conferences 4) Chapters " The format for today's Q&A with potential board members is simple. We ask a single question. Each candidate has 2 minutes to respond to the question. These recordings were done using google hangouts, so there will be slight sound glitches and background noises during some of the answers.

Today's podcast is the third in a series of four, talking with prospective 2016 board members. Today's question is, "What is the single most important issue for you to tackle if elected to the board?" The format for today's Q&A with potential board members is simple. We ask a single question. Each candidate has 2 minutes to respond to the question. These recordings were done using google hangouts, so there will be slight sound glitches and background noises during some of the answers.

Today's podcast is the second in a series of four, talking with prospective 2016 board members. Today's question is, "Do you consider vendor neutrality an issue at OWASP? If so, why?" The format for today's Q&A with potential board members is simple. We ask a single question. Each candidate has 2 minutes to respond to the question. These recordings were done using google hangouts, so there will be slight sound glitches and background noises during some of the answers.

Today's podcast is the first in a series of four, talking with prospective 2016 board members. Today's question is, "What kind of action plan do you have in mind to help motivate the participation of Developers into OWASP community." The format for today's Q&A with potential board members is simple. We ask a single question. Each candidate has 2 minutes to respond to the question. These recordings were done using google hangouts, so there will be slight sound glitches and background noises during some of the answers.

From October 11 - 14, 2016, appsec professionals from around the world will gather in Washington DC to participate in one of this year's main OWASP events, AppSec USA 2016. In this broadcast, I speak with three organizers of the event (Andrew Weidenhamer, Mike McCabe, Patrick Cooley )to get insight as to what to anticipate at the conference, the unique qualities of an AppSec USA event, and a sneak peek at the sessions that will be given over the 4 day event.

Continuing the theme of integrating security in DevOps processes, I spoke with Sacha Lebourey, CEO of Cloudbees, during a stop at CD Summit in London. As one of the main players in the software supply chain for DevOps, I was interested in Sacha's perspective on how automated security fit into that supply chain. We start the discussion with "What is continuous delivery" followed by the place for security in the modern developer environment. About Sacha Labourey Sacha was born in Neuchâtel, Switzerland and graduated in 1999 from EPFL. It was during Sacha’s studies in 1996 that he started his first consulting business - Cogito Informatique. In 2001, he joined Marc Fleury’s JBoss project as a core contributor and implemented JBoss’ original clustering features. In 2003, Sacha founded the European headquarters for JBoss and, as GM for Europe, led the strategy and partnerships that helped fuel the company’s growth in that region. While in this position, he led the recruitment of some of JBoss’ key talent and acquisition of key technology. In 2005, he was appointed CTO of JBoss, Inc. and oversaw all of JBoss engineering. In June 2006, JBoss, Inc. was acquired by Red Hat (NYSE:RHT). After the acquisition, Sacha remained JBoss CTO and played a crucial role in integrating and productizing JBoss software with Red Hat offerings. In 2007, Sacha became co-General Manager of Red Hat’s middleware division. He ultimately left Red Hat in April 2009 and founded CloudBees in April 2010.