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Conversations draws you deeper into the life story of someone you may have heard about, but never met. Journey into their world, joining them on epic adventures to unfamiliar places, back in time to wild moments of history, and into their deepest memories, to be moved by personal stories of resilience and redemption. Hosted by Richard Fidler and Sarah Kanowski, Conversations is the ABC's most popular long-form interview program. Every day we explore the vast tapestry of human experience, weaving together narratives from history, science, art, and personal storytelling. Whether it's an exploration of Australian and American politics, the intricacies of mental health, or the mysteries of ancestry and origin stories, our episodes offer a conversational approach that brings topics to life. We uncover epic tales of war and peace, the complex dynamics of relationships and family, and the profound impact of grief and loss. Follow Conversations for thought-provoking discussions, heartfelt stories, and a deeper understanding of the world around us. Conversations explores the meaning of life, history, relationships, motherhood and fatherhood, love, religion and the origins of human life through a contemporary and conversational Australian lens. From distinctive accounts of crime, mental health, ancestry, cults, grief, family and parenting, to discussions about science, books, art, music, war, spies and economics, Conversations traverses myriad topics. Our interviews focus on pioneers of the natural world, wildlife, oceans, fungi, archaeology, palaeontology and megafauna. Our guests speak about geopolitics, being a refugee and the experience of migration. They come from all walks of life — First Nations, Indigenous and Torres Strait Islander peoples, CALD communities and ancestors of Australia's first fleeters. We explore Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Catholic, Buddhist, Sikh and Hindu faith traditions, among other beliefs, including atheism. We look at social history as well — close encounters with the ancient world, the Stolen Generations, and adventurers on an explorative odyssey. In a Conversations interview, you will hear personal stories of secrets, lies, adoption, and living with disability, neurodiversity or chronic illness. We traverse a person's life story, full of human interest topics, including redemption, love at first sight, spirituality, poverty, having children, family dynamics and even hidden families. We hear from individuals who have struggled with drug addiction, jail, family violence, political imprisonment, persecution, abuse, depression, anxiety and mental health issues. Conversations also speak to the public figures of Australian and international society — leaders, artists, politicians, authors, sports stars, actors and musicians. A writer, a builder, a neurologist, a Paralympian, an Olympian, an amputee, a historian, a comedian, a funeral director, a bird photographer, an ethicist, a doctor, a spy, a pilot, a choreographer, a firefighter, a bookseller, an astrophysicist, a martial artist, a principal, an oud virtuoso, an ecologist, a carer, a demographer, a chess master, a forensic archaeologist, a biologist, a chef, a surfer, a button shop owner, a costume and set designer, a boxer, a drummer, a conductor, a dog behaviourist, an AFL player, a longevity expert, a barber, a Matilda, and a psychologist have all appeared on our program. Stories make us who we are. Join Conversations for an hour of diverting listening, to transport, touch and uplift you. Our guided storytelling will teach you something new, introduce you to someone extraordinary and take you away to a different place or time in history. After almost 20 years of digging into the lives, stories and worlds of thousands of people, Conversations continues as the ABC's most popular podcast, providing Australians with a social history of our country and paying close attention to the small, personal details that make up a life.
- 2708 - How a famous, broken bible changed the story of a family
Michael Visontay with the true tale of how fragments of a rare Gutenberg Bible were sold off, leaf by leaf, in New York in the 1920s, and how the sale of these books, chapters and verses changed the course of his own family.
Tue, 29 Oct 2024 - 50min - 2707 - From Bankstown to the Barossa: the story of Maggie Beer
Legendary cook, author, food producer and educator Maggie Beer had a circuitous path to the food world, which began when she left school at 14. (R)
Mon, 28 Oct 2024 - 52min - 2706 - Panic attacks, pride, the navy, and Nate Byrne
In 2024 Nate Byrne went from presenting the weather to making the news when he acknowledged live on air that he was experiencing a panic attack. Keeping cool under pressure is a skill Nate developed in his first career as a Naval Officer, and perhaps also from his days as a go-go dancer in a Perth nightclub.
Fri, 25 Oct 2024 - 50min - 2705 - A life-changing quince, backyard butchery, and ethical food obsession
Chef Ben Shewry was raised on a farm in Awakino in New Zealand, where his family harvested wild plants, eels and shellfish. After moving to Australia, he created one of the world's most acclaimed restaurants.
Thu, 24 Oct 2024 - 50min - 2704 - Lee Miller: surrealist photographer, war correspondent, and gourmet chef
Antony Penrose grew up knowing little about his remarkable mother Lee Miller, who had studied with Man Ray in Paris, and become a model, a photographer, and a war correspondent. But then an unexpected find in the family attic changed everything. (R)
Wed, 23 Oct 2024 - 51min - 2703 - Helping people die on their own terms — why Bhawani became a VAD practitioner
Bhawani O'Brien's first name means "giver of life" in Tamil, which is ironic she says, because one of the greatest privileges of her life has been helping more than 100 people in their dying moments as a voluntary assisted dying practitioner.
Tue, 22 Oct 2024 - 53min - 2702 - Kanye and me — why John Safran squatted in Ye's Hollyweird mansion
Australian Gonzo author and documentary filmmaker John Safran has made a career out of getting into places he probably shouldn't be. He put his sanity on the line in his latest escapade — breaking into one of Kanye West's strange homes.
Mon, 21 Oct 2024 - 51min - 2701 - Changing prisoners' minds with Vedic meditation at Rikers Island
Joh Jarvis was a high-flying boss when grief from a terrible loss began to overwhelm her. She tried therapy, yoga, and healthy eating. Then she found Vedic meditation, and the experience was 'psychedelic'.
Fri, 18 Oct 2024 - 53min - 2700 - A wild Bollywood adventure — from Sydney to Mumbai and back again
Indian-Australian actor and playwright, Nicholas Brown on being cast as a villain, and what made him end his time in Mumbai for a different life back home.
Thu, 17 Oct 2024 - 51min - 2699 - Aunty Ruth Hegarty’s life of defiance, faith and finding her voice
The hardship, cruelty and loneliness of the mission system during the Great Depression didn't crush Aunty Ruth Hegarty's spirit. She found her voice, God and her family (R)
Wed, 16 Oct 2024 - 52min - 2698 - Arnhem Land to Everest — surviving worst case scenarios in the wilderness
From the unforgiving tropics of the Kokoda track to Mt Everest, wilderness guide Steve Ellis has made a career teaching bushcraft and survival skills to civilians and Defence personnel – and along the way he has survived his share of life-threatening situations
Tue, 15 Oct 2024 - 53min - 2697 - I was a political prisoner in Myanmar — and I could never hate the Burmese
Following the coup of 2021, Australian economist Sean Turnell received an email from a "secret friend", warning him he was being watched by Myanmar's military. Moments later, the police closed in on him.
Mon, 14 Oct 2024 - 52min - 2696 - The coal miner's daughter and the bride stripped bare
From Wollongong to London, via Alice Springs, this is writer Nikki Gemmell on her deeply romantic life, and how she defied expectations to become a famous author
Fri, 11 Oct 2024 - 51min - 2695 - A Sri Lankan hotel, a Harlem nightclub and orgasm-induced amnesia — Dasha Ross' epic adventures
Dasha Ross' most epic adventures were chartered with her larger-than-life husband John Pinder, including the time they managed a beachside hotel in Sri Lanka. Things did not go as planned
Thu, 10 Oct 2024 - 52min - 2694 - Prostate cancer, testosterone and Tim Baker's masculinity
When surf writer Tim Baker was diagnosed with Stage 4 prostate cancer, he had no idea how the hormones which saved his life would fundamentally change his experience of being a man (R)
Wed, 09 Oct 2024 - 53min - 2693 - Obsessive-compulsive disorder and how Penny loosened its anxiety-inducing grip
Penny Moodie grew up consumed by catastrophic thoughts and developed habits to try to ward off impending doom. It turned out she had been living with obsessive-compulsive disorder (R)
Tue, 08 Oct 2024 - 51min - 2692 - Melbourne's seedy underbelly and the gangsters who run the joint
They're violent and scary, some of them are madmen and others are convicted killers, but the gangsters who control organised crime syndicates in Melbourne are mostly just stupid, according to veteran crime reporter John Silvester
Mon, 07 Oct 2024 - 52min - 2691 - Play School's Noni Hazlehurst — Australia's TV mumFri, 04 Oct 2024 - 51min
- 2690 - Kasey Chambers on how not to be a d***head
The country music star remembers a childhood spent roaming the Nullarbor Plain, and the number one lesson she learned from her father
Thu, 03 Oct 2024 - 49min - 2689 - Into the wild with Gina Chick
Gina Chick, the winner of Alone Australia on her life as a creative, outrageous, nature-loving misfit who grew up to live through great depths of love, and grief (CW: discusses the death of a child)
Wed, 02 Oct 2024 - 52min - 2688 - Shakespeare's stories aren't boring — we are teaching them wrong way
Irish journalist and author, Fintan O'Toole on how the Victorians changed the meaning of Shakespeare's plays, and how we can bring them back to life
Tue, 01 Oct 2024 - 49min - 2687 - How Tolstoy and Chekhov schooled George Saunders on life's great lessons
Writer George Saunders on how famous short stories by writers like Chekhov, Tolstoy, Turgenev and Gogol are like miniature models of the world and how they can teach us to transcend our own limitations (R)
Mon, 30 Sep 2024 - 49min - 2686 - The unexpected plot twist: how a solo hiker stayed alive after shattering her pelvis in Joshua Tree National Park
Claire Nelson hadn't told anyone where she was going, and her phone lost signal shortly into her hike. As an experienced bushwalker, she never dreamed an adventure would turn out like this (R)
Fri, 27 Sep 2024 - 50min - 2685 - The unexpected plot twist: the story of how suicide survivor Oceane, who became a beloved midwife
At the age of 18, Oceane Campbell tried to take her own life. She survived and fought her way back into life, becoming a midwife and a mother of three (CW: discussion of suicide, please take care when listening) (R)
Thu, 26 Sep 2024 - 52min - 2684 - The unexpected plot twist: The story of Toni Jordan's lucky life
Toni Jordan grew up working in a T.A.B. with her cyclonic mother, and going to the greyhound races. Then she grew up to become a best-selling novelist (R)
Wed, 25 Sep 2024 - 52min - 2683 - The unexpected plot twist: The tech nerd who changed course to help the homeless
Jon Owen's mum enrolled him in a computer science degree at University - expecting him to build a flourishing career; which he did. It just wasn't the one that everyone expected (R)
Tue, 24 Sep 2024 - 50min - 2682 - The unexpected plot twist: From the David Jones food hall to Opera Australia
After a stint being homeless and living in his car, Stephen Smith was working at David Jones Food Hall when one of his colleagues noticed his remarkable singing voice. A few years later, he became a tenor on the operatic world stage (R)
Mon, 23 Sep 2024 - 50min - 2681 - An odyssey across Australia — how 11,000 sheep were walked from Victoria into the outback
In 1882, thousands of sheep set off from a property in Western Victoria. Their destination was a huge station in the Northern Territory, land which a sheep had never set foot on. To get there, these animals and their drover battled drought, flood, famine and doubt
Fri, 20 Sep 2024 - 49min - 2680 - Antibiotic resistant superbugs and how to fight them
Professor Ian Henderson has spent his career searching for new treatments in the fight against antibiotic resistance superbugs
Thu, 19 Sep 2024 - 50min - 2679 - A life spent making — ‘Mr Millimetre’s’ memories
Jeffrey Broadfield has made building his life. It has taken him around the world, and given him a place to belong. Jeffrey Broadfield is a master maker who builds houses to his clients’ wishes and quirks, using carpentry to turn recycled Australian hardwood into dream homes. It’s a craft Jeffrey says is dying. He grew up in Griffith, NSW, where he learned to swim in the irrigation channel and entice next door’s chooks over into his house to play. When he left school at 16, Jeffrey became interested in fitting and turning, but on the boring train ride to a factory job interview, a well-worn tie changed the course of his life. This episode of Conversations covers bespoke, custom craftsmanship, an epic life story, families, travel, architecture, marriage, nature, theatre.
Wed, 18 Sep 2024 - 50min - 2678 - Fish sperm sausages, and eyeball icecream: the Josh Niland story
From using fish eyes in icecream, and not wasting the liver, to creating recipes with fish sperm, chef Josh Niland on his mission to revolutionise how we cook and eat fish. (R)
Tue, 17 Sep 2024 - 52min - 2677 - The architects of ancient Arabia – speaking to the sky
The deserts of Saudi Arabia are still holding on to many ancient secrets, hidden inside burial tombs and mysterious monumental structures called mustatils. Dr Hugh Thomas is on an archaeological mission to solve some of these mysteries. Hugh Thomas is an archaeologist who is fascinated by ancient mortuary practices and the secrets still hidden in the deserts of Saudi Arabia. In the north west of the country, thousands of mysterious rectangular structures, built in the fifth millennium, are still standing. They are monumental structures, up to 600m long, built from walls of rock and best viewed from the sky, where the chambers in which ritualistic killings took place, are clear. But who or what exactly motivated these ancient architects to build such things is not yet clear. And crisscrossing the landscape around them are kilometres of pathways called 'funerary avenues' -- routes carved out by people and herds, punctuated by burial tombs that look like jewellery from the air. This episode of Conversations explores ancient history, deep time, epic discoveries, the Middle East, Saudi Arabia, death and archaeology.
Mon, 16 Sep 2024 - 51min - 2676 - The epic highs and lows of Ji's life on the trampoline
Ji Wallace was at the top of his career as a gymnast and acrobat when a terrible injury and surprising diagnosis brought him back down to earth, temporarily. Ji was an energetic, only child growing up on a bush block in suburban Brisbane when his parents brought home a trampoline to keep him occupied. Ji took to it so quickly, he learnt how to flip by that afternoon, and was a national champion in gymnastics just a couple of years later. He managed to make a career out of bouncing around, representing Australia at the Olympics and then joining Cirque Du Soleil as an acrobat. But a terrible injury, and then the news that he was HIV positive, set Ji on a different course, although he didn't let it keep him grounded. This episode of Conversations explores elite athletes, gymnastics, the Olympics, Brisbane 2032, parenting, coming out, the queer community, LGBT issues, andHIV and AIDS.
Fri, 13 Sep 2024 - 53min - 2675 - Treating dementia — a new way of caring for the elderly
Psychiatrist Duncan McKellar wrote the report that triggered the Royal Commission into Aged Care Quality and Safety. He has seen how care changes when we take someone's life story into account.
Thu, 12 Sep 2024 - 52min - 2674 - The story of James Earl Jones, and his legacy
The late James Earl Jones grew up with a stutter and hardly said a word for years. After an English teacher intervened, he grew up to become one of the world's finest actors. (R)
Wed, 11 Sep 2024 - 38min - 2673 - Epic sharks — the ancient origins of the monsters of the sea
From sharks with wheels of teeth, to gargantuan sharks like the megalodon, palaeontologist John Long has traced the long and storied history of these oceanic hunters. This episode of Conversations explores science, origin stories, ancient history, sharks, palaeontology, the ocean, climate change, megalodon, hunting and predators.
Tue, 10 Sep 2024 - 50min - 2672 - Words of love — writing stories of Aboriginal land
Author and professor Anita Heiss on her parents' story of romance, and how she brings true history alive in her work
Mon, 09 Sep 2024 - 48min - 2671 - My brother's death — writing the story of a family's grief and loss
For decades, Gideon Haigh and his mum were the only two people who really knew what happened on Jaz's last night. This year, it all poured out.
Fri, 06 Sep 2024 - 52min - 2670 - Quitting alcohol – the story of how Seana got sober
After a childhood spent trying to escape her father's booze-fuelled outbursts, Seana developed her own problem relationship with drinking. But by her mid-50s, Seana decided she had had enough. Seana Smith grew up in a beautiful house in rural Scotland, and when things were good at home, they were wonderful. But Seana’s father loved to drink, and his habit took over her family’s life. Despite the fights, abuse and violence, Seana's mother couldn't bring herself to leave her husband, and so Seana found every excuse to get away -- from pony camp at 12 years old, to applying for boarding school without her parents' knowledge, and then to Oxford University. Eventually Seana fell in love and ended up on the opposite side of the world, in Australia, where she started a family of her own. But as she reached her mid 50s, Seana realised that the way she loved to drink meant she hadn’t really left home at all, and so she started her own journey of sobriety. Seana's story deals with themes of alcoholism, substance abuse, problem drinking, dementia, family violence, sobriety, motherhood and getting sober.
Thu, 05 Sep 2024 - 53min - 2669 - How dogs think — and what they think of us
Dog behaviourist Laura Vissaritis uses science and psychology to better understand what our dogs really are telling us and how our behaviour influences theirs (R). Laura is a dog behaviourist with qualifications in both animal behaviour and human psychology. Dogs were the first animals to become domesticated, and over the centuries they've evolved from their wolfish origins to become more useful, attentive and appealing to us. Laura says that when a dog is displaying 'difficult' behaviours like too much barking, pulling on the lead, or jumping up, the first step in the process is often changing the behaviour of their human. She also believes with the increasing tendency in Australia to view our dogs as quasi-people has led to heavy expectations on many dogs, to which they can't always measure up. This episode of Conversations explores dogs, pets, animal behaviour, animal psychology, fur babies, service dogs, psychology, co-dependence, animal rescue, death, grief and animal welfare.
Wed, 04 Sep 2024 - 49min - 2668 - My Stolen Generations story: how Brenda was taken from her family, twice
As a young child, chunks of Brenda Matthews' early memories were missing until her biological mother told her the truth of what happened. Together they are slowly healing Wiradjuri woman Brenda Matthews was stolen from her family, along with her six siblings, when she was two-years-old. She came from a loving, hardworking, religious family. She was fostered by an affectionate white family, and she blended into her new life happily. After six years of living with them, she was told it was time to return “home” to her biological family — who she didn’t remember at all. For most of her life, Brenda suppressed her memories of her white parents and their love and care. Then, as an adult, she worked up the courage to bring both sides of her family together, so they could all slowly heal. This episode touches on family history, the Stolen Generations, memoir, life stories, ancestry, modern history, origin stories, personal stories, epic storytelling, reflection, grief, loss, exploration and memory.
Tue, 03 Sep 2024 - 46min - 2667 - The story of the melancholy spy
When a devastating injury ended Jack Beaumont's career as a jet fighter pilot, he decided to become a spy, in the French Secret Service. Jack Beaumont (not his real name) is a former intelligence operative and the author of several spy thrillers. Jack grew up in a turbulent family in Paris and when he got older he decided to train as a jet fighter pilot with the French Air Force. During a training dogfight at supersonic speed, Jack suffered a devastating injury that meant he could no longer fly jets, but he still wanted a job steeped in adventure and danger. So he began piloting covert spy missions, and eventually became a spy with France's secret intelligence service: the DGSE, maintaining up to five secret identities as a time. While he now lives in a beautiful part of Australia with his wife and family, Jack has struggled to leave behind the extreme hyper vigilance of his early working life. This conversation discusses family dynamics, adventure, history, global politics, spies, military life and spycraft.
Mon, 02 Sep 2024 - 53min - 2666 - The psychedelic revolution — how MDMA mended Rebecca's mind
While struggling with PTSD, social researcher Rebecca Huntley chose an unconventional and underground path to healing — MDMA therapy. Rebecca Huntley is well known to many Australians for her formidable intellect and career as a broadcaster, an author and a social researcher. But despite her impressive public-facing life, in private, Rebecca's trauma from a difficult upbringing refused to leave her. At 50, she walked the Camino in Italy and realised that after 30 years of therapy, she was still living with a great deal of anger about what had happened to her as a child. She decided to take a radical step to deal with her PTSD and her suffering. She had three sessions of MDMA therapy, delivered by an underground healer. The treatment changed Rebecca's life and her view of the world. This conversation discusses therapy, trauma, psychedelics, drugs, parenting, grief, family, mothers, ancestry, fathers, family dynamics, domestic violence, going no contact, exploration and loss.
Fri, 30 Aug 2024 - 52min - 2665 - Smuggled out of Wewak — Carolyn's dramatic escape from Papua New Guinea
When Carolyn Blacklock's passport was confiscated from her in a foreign country she was faced with a scary reality that got wilder at every turn Carolyn Blacklock's passport was taken from from her at the Port Moresby International Airport when she was trying to get on a plane back to Australia. It was at that moment she realised just how much trouble she was in. Carolyn, who had headed up the national power company in Papua New Guinea and worked for the World Back there, had faced charges of corruption after a change in government. When the court cleared her of any and all wrongdoing, she thought she would be able to leave the country, but still she was detained or threatened at every turn. So, Carolyn set about getting herself out of PNG and back to Australia by any means necessary. What ensued was a wild, nine-day journey travelling in a helicopter, in the boot of a four-wheel drive, in a tiny dinghy and on foot. While Carolyn did get herself out of PNG, she desperately misses the country she called home for more than a decade. Carolyn's story explores escape, adventure, family, regional development, the Pacific, banking, diplomacy, corruption, governance, country Australia, Papua New Guinea, close neighbours, emigration, illegal immigration, politics and foreign affairs.
Thu, 29 Aug 2024 - 52min - 2664 - When the pirate got paid on the island of Corfu
Kári Gíslason was 18 when he met a mysterious stranger called 'the Pirate' on the Greek island of Corfu. When he fled the island, he left behind a debt he promised to one day repay. When Kári Gíslason was 18, he came to the island of Corfu as a stony-broke traveller. But he quickly found work in a little town: lime washing walls and working as a builder’s labourer. The man who gave him the work was a mysterious figure known simply as ’the Pirate’. At first, Kári thought it was a nickname given to him as a comic exaggeration of his former life as a ship’s cook. But he received warnings from several people to get away from the Pirate. And when the Pirate said he wanted Kári to sail with him across the Atlantic to deliver unnamed goods to Brazil, Kári began to plot his escape.
Wed, 28 Aug 2024 - 52min - 2663 - The spark that saw Andy become solar-powered
Andy McCarthy found passion for solar power as a high school dropout. He began one of Australia's biggest solar businesses, right in the heart of Victoria's coal country. But then a breakdown changed everything for Andy and his family Andy McCarthy dropped out of high school in year 10. He was a highly energetic kid but found it difficult to latch onto any one thing for long. Andy was happier out of school, and tried a whole lot of different jobs. Then at 19, he connected his first solar panel and was suddenly fired up with a jolt of enthusiasm. He set up a rooftop solar business right in the middle of coal country – in the LaTrobe Valley in Country Victoria. Setting up a solar panel shop in a place surrounded by some of Australia’s biggest coal-fired power stations was always going to invite scepticism. But Andy’s drive saw the business grow from a garage operation to one of the biggest employers in the area. At the height of his success though, Andy suffered a breakdown that landed him in hospital – and he realised he would have to change, along with the rest of the planet. Andy's story covers themes of neurodivergence, ADHD, ADD, attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder, climate change, solar power, solar panels, batteries, small business, education, schooling, success, environmental issues, the economy, economic development, regional Australia and industry.
Tue, 27 Aug 2024 - 53min - 2662 - The sprawling history of the human soul — part two
In this two-part series, historian Paul Ham traces how our definition and understanding of the human soul has transformed over thousands of years. Humans have been probing their own invisible inner voice since the Stone Age. But where did the concept of the soul even come from? And is it really what separates the living from the dead? Historian and writer Paul Ham has traced how our definition and understanding of the human soul has changed over thousands of years. Human beings have been probing their own inner voice, what it means and how it makes us feel, since the Stone Age. The human soul has long thought to be an invisible, inner essence that makes each of us distinctively different from the rocks and trees, and which also separates the living from the dead. But where did it come from? Who invented the concept of the soul? And do we still believe in the soul as inextricably linked to the human spirit? In this two-part series, Paul investigated first what the pre-modern world called 'the soul'. In this episode, he explores how the concept of the soul disappeared, and became 'the mind' in the modern era. This episode touches on ancient history, philosophy, neurology, religion, death, epic storytelling, faith, exploration and memory.
Mon, 26 Aug 2024 - 48min - 2661 - The trailblazing papergirl, lawyer and playwright
Suzie Miller's frugal and free range St Kilda childhood taught her to question almost everything. She grew up to become a trailblazing writer and lawyer (R) Suzie Miller grew up in St Kilda, and from early in life she had a number of part-time jobs. She became a trailblazing paper girl in her local area, when the role was usually only offered to boys. As a young woman Suzie trained as a lawyer and began working with homeless teenagers in Sydney’s Kings Cross. She then began to write stories and plays out of the lives she was encountering in court. She thought these were stories the world needed to hear. And the world sat up and listened. Suzie’s award winning play Prima Facie, a one woman show about how the legal system treats victims of sexual assault, has received standing ovations from its Sydney premiere to the West End in London and on Broadway in New York. The play has since inspired a TV show, a movie and a novel. Suzie's story covers themes of grief, family, motherhood, memoir, an exploration of the legal system, grief, and reflections on the changing role of women the modern world.
Fri, 23 Aug 2024 - 53min - 2660 - My aunt was smuggled to Tashkent by Stalin
Helen Vatsikopoulos' family never spoke about what happened to her aunt, Aspasia after the Greek Civil War. She uncovered a story of secret evacuation, exile and unknown family members. Helen Vatsikopoulos was born in a little mountain village on the northern border of Greece. She came to Adelaide as a young girl and grew up to become a TV journalist, covering big international stories for the ABC and SBS. When she was in her 30s, Helen and her husband were visiting her parents when her father started telling stories she had never heard before. He remembered what happened in their village during the Greek Civil War and how Helen’s aunt Aspasia, along with thousands of other Greeks, were smuggled by Stalin to a new life in Tashkent, Uzbekistan. The family didn't know what became of Aspasia, so Helen got to work to find out. This episode touches on family history, communism, memoir, life stories, ancestry, modern history, mountains, origin stories, personal stories, epic storytelling, reflection, grief, loss, exploration and memory.
Thu, 22 Aug 2024 - 52min - 2659 - Heavenly beings: the icon paintings of Michael Galovic
Artist Michael Galovic had been painting mysterious and mystical icons for decades before he truly understood the theology behind what he was doing — expertly and purposefully distorting reality to create a window into a heavenly and otherworldly realm
Wed, 21 Aug 2024 - 51min - 2658 - Dave Gleeson needs a damn good lie down
Dave Gleeson is known for his blistering performances in The Screaming Jets and The Angels, but he grew up singing at Mass in Cardiff, with a mum who opened their home to hundreds of foster children (R)
Tue, 20 Aug 2024 - 52min - 2657 - The sprawling history of the human soul — part one
In this two-part series, historian Paul Ham traces how our definition and understanding of the human soul has transformed over thousands of years. Humans have been probing their own invisible inner voice since the Stone Age. But where did the concept of the soul even come from? And is it really what separates the living from the dead?
Mon, 19 Aug 2024 - 52min - 2656 - The Natural Horseman
People travel from all over the world to learn about horses from Ken Faulkner. But after a life-threatening riding accident on his favourite horse, Smoke, Ken had to learn to walk and ride again, rediscovering himself in the process
Fri, 16 Aug 2024 - 53min - 2655 - The woman who was lucky in love
In 2014, Ailsa Piper's husband's unexpected death cast her adrift in a sea of grief. Then bit by bit, life called her back
Thu, 15 Aug 2024 - 53min - 2654 - The farm that Carol built
On Carol Perry’s communal farm there’s ‘no loneliness, and no mortgages’. It’s a long way from the life her parents expected her to lead, and she got there after an overseas motorbike tour and teaching in a war zone
Wed, 14 Aug 2024 - 50min - 2653 - Mummy bundles, fossils and DNA
Kim McKay is the Director and CEO of The Australian Museum, responsible for 22 million objects that tell the history of the world (Content warning: this episode discusses human remains held in museums and the repatriation process. Indigenous, Torres Strait Islander and Pacific Islander peoples, please listen with care.)
Tue, 13 Aug 2024 - 48min - 2652 - 'More than cheesecake' — humanity's shared musical history
Like tracing the cultural history of breathing or love, it's difficult to pinpoint exactly when, how or why humans started making music. But composer and broadcaster Andrew Ford has uncovered the story of music, from pre-historic times to now
Mon, 12 Aug 2024 - 50min - 2651 - Conversations Gold: The silver medal that changed Laurie Lawrence
As a child, the superstar swim coach lived with a chronic lung condition, and had part of a lung removed. In 1956, a huge event held in his family's backyard changed the course of his life (R)
Fri, 09 Aug 2024 - 48min - 2650 - Conversations Gold: Jana Pittman's turning point
Jana Pittman became one of Australia's most famous athletes as a young woman. Then at age 30, she found herself at a painful crossroads (R)
Wed, 07 Aug 2024 - 53min - 2649 - Conversations Gold: Paralympian Christie Dawes is super/normal
The Tokyo Paralympics were Christie's seventh as a wheelchair racing competitor, but Christie almost gave up marathons after the 2013 Boston Marathon, and the most frightening experience of her life (CW: mention of suicide) (R)
Mon, 05 Aug 2024 - 51min - 2648 - Conversations Gold: The life of Anna Meares
Anna's stellar cycling career saw her smash Australian Olympic records and become the World Champion 11 times. Then to the surprise of many, she walked away from cycling for good, returning to the world stage as Australia's Chef de Mission for Paris 2024 (R)
Fri, 02 Aug 2024 - 52min - 2647 - Conversations Gold: Lisa Curry on winning gold and losing Jaimi
Swimmer and entrepreneur Lisa Curry's life has been full of highs and lows both in and out of the pool. But it was the death of her daughter, Jaimi, that completely changed her. This is how Lisa fought to get her old self back after her unimaginable loss (R)
Wed, 31 Jul 2024 - 51min - 2646 - Conversations Gold: Patrick Johnson's golden run
How a boy who grew up on a fishing trawler became the first man in Australia to run 100 metres in under 10 seconds (R)
Mon, 29 Jul 2024 - 49min - 2645 - Bruce McAvaney — what a legend, what a champion
Bruce McAvaney is the voice of Australian sport, with a commentating style built on his relentless work ethic and genuine passion. But if he hadn't chucked a sickie one day while working as a public servant, the past 50 years of Australian sport might have sounded very different
Fri, 26 Jul 2024 - 51min - 2644 - Louise Kennedy on Belfast, bombs and a disastrous pav
Writer Louise Kennedy grew up at the height of The Troubles, just outside of Belfast, where violence was ever-present. When her family's pub was bombed, they decided to move south, where Louise trained as a chef. But after decades of working in the kitchen, a chance invitation to a writer's group lead to an unexpected new career (R)
Thu, 25 Jul 2024 - 52min - 2643 - It's 'all sweet' for Tony Armstrong
Tony Armstrong felt like a failure when his AFL career ended. But he found his feet again, falling upwards into a different life, calling footy matches, hosting live television, and now writing a children's book. This is why Tony isn't scared of failing anymore
Wed, 24 Jul 2024 - 49min - 2642 - Lele's home under the Morning Star
Forced to flee West Papua, Lele's family wandered for years before coming to Australia. When they eventually received Australian citizenship and passports, the family was finally able to travel to West Papua. But Lele's homecoming journey was bittersweet, after tragedy struck
Tue, 23 Jul 2024 - 46min - 2641 - Tidying up the crematorium
When writer Lily Brett went to visit Auschwitz, the death camp both her parents had survived, she couldn't help but start tidying up the place where so many of her family had been murdered, and touching the ashes of what was left
Mon, 22 Jul 2024 - 49min - 2640 - PRESENTS — I Was Actually There | The Boxing Day tsunami 2004
I Was Actually There is a new ABC podcast featuring gripping stories told by people who witnessed history first-hand. Hear what it was like to be a police sniper tasked with handling the gunman at the Port Arthur massacre; how it felt to be a teenager seeing The Beatles during their record-breaking 1964 Adelaide visit; and how one man survived being trapped 1km underground for 14 days, after the Beaconsfield mine collapse. Follow the I Was Actually There podcast on ABC listen. In this episode, Rebekah Giles and her boyfriend were enjoying a last-minute Christmas holiday in Thailand when the deadliest tsunami in recorded history struck. Rebekah recounts her remarkable survival, from the moment a torrent of water blew apart her beachfront hut on Phi Phi Island.
Sun, 21 Jul 2024 - 41min - 2639 - The many magnificent, mysterious faces of Monte Punshon
Monte Punshon was 103 years old when she was crowned the world's oldest lesbian, but that wasn't how she summed up her extraordinary life. Historian Tessa Morris-Suzuki charts Monte's adventures through underground bars and secret clubs
Fri, 19 Jul 2024 - 49min - 2638 - Winnie Dunn — the first
How family and writing brought her home to Tonga, and gave Winnie the power to launch herself into the world on her own terms
Thu, 18 Jul 2024 - 51min - 2637 - The power and determination of Nas Campanella
Nas Campanella was six months old when she lost her sight. She fell in love with the radio and audio books as a child, growing up to become one of Australia's most well-known TV and radio journalists (R)
Wed, 17 Jul 2024 - 53min - 2636 - The megadeath of megafauna
Dr Aaron Camens studies the fossilised skeletons, footprints and soft tissue left behind by strange, alien-like behemoths, to work out how they lived, and what, or who, killed them
Tue, 16 Jul 2024 - 52min - 2635 - Sketchbooks, ghosts and a lost sister
Artist Michael Kelly's younger sister was born with intellectual disabilities in the 1950s, and went into care. The family lost touch with her until Michael decided it was time to find her again
Mon, 15 Jul 2024 - 42min - 2634 - The BMW of standup comics
Janty Blair is a Butchulla, Mununjhali and Woppaburra woman who, after a lifetime of nursing and midwifery, discovered her funny bone in her late 50s, after a serendipitous Bumble date
Fri, 12 Jul 2024 - 47min - 2633 - The tin hut that's still standing
Dr John Paterson grew up in a tin hut in rural Darwin. He helped hold it down during Cyclone Tracy and has taken care of it so it still stands today. John learnt many lessons in that tin hut, which have followed him through life
Thu, 11 Jul 2024 - 50min - 2632 - Bindi — always looking forward
When his elders named him Bindi, David Hudson had no idea his future would involve performing with his didgeridoo at the Taj Mahal, or a role in a film starring Marlin Brando (Content warning for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander listeners: this episode contains the name of someone who has died.)
Wed, 10 Jul 2024 - 51min - 2631 - Nardi Simpson on Crocodile Country
Yuwaalaraay writer, storyteller and performer, Nardi Simpson of the Stiff Gins talks about her life, art and the meaning of country (R)
Tue, 09 Jul 2024 - 53min - 2630 - Ken Wyatt - the Noongar boy who made history
Ken Wyatt was born at Roelands Mission in outback WA, where his mother had been taken as a small girl, after she was stolen from her family. More than 60 years later, he became Australia's first Indigenous Minister for Indigenous Australians
Mon, 08 Jul 2024 - 52min - 2629 - Surviving Pinochet, living for art
Paula Quintela was seven years old when she witnessed Augusto Pinochet’s coup d’etat in Chile. She broke up the darkness by becoming her country's champion ocean swimmer and an artist
Fri, 05 Jul 2024 - 52min - 2628 - Married at the Wayside Chapel
Playwright Alana Valentine on the story of the radical minister, Ted Noffs, who married thousands of couples who weren’t accepted anywhere else, including Alana’s own mum
Thu, 04 Jul 2024 - 45min - 2627 - Beyond the hills and into the mountains
Since she was a child, Michelle Johnston has tried to satisfy her insatiable curiosity about the world and the people in it. Most recently, her questions took her to a mysterious part of Russia called Dagestan, where mountains claw at the sky and time stands still
Wed, 03 Jul 2024 - 48min - 2626 - Finding home on the Tooraweenah Aerodrome
Mark Pitts needed to find peace after a hard life in the rugby and boxing worlds. So he went back to the airstrip that his aviator grandfather made famous when he flew home from England for love, breaking a world record in the process
Tue, 02 Jul 2024 - 48min - 2625 - Risking everything
For more than 20 years, Dominic Gordon cycled through the same self-destructive behaviours - stealing, risky sexual encounters, vandalism and drug-use -until he took the biggest risk of all to get his life back
Mon, 01 Jul 2024 - 47min - 2624 - Disaster specialist Lucy Easthope
When there's a plane crash, a bomb blast, a flood or a pandemic, Lucy Easthope's phone starts ringing. This is how she stays cheerful and trusts her gut in the face of never-ending disasters
Fri, 28 Jun 2024 - 52min - 2623 - Ben Lee: chutzpah mystic
Ben Lee was a teen rock prodigy by the time he was 14. He then began decades of making music, Hollywood fame, and a journey into alternative spirituality, including the world of ayahuasca
Thu, 27 Jun 2024 - 50min - 2622 - The ferryman from life to death
After Richard Gosling's young daughter survived horrific injuries and open heart surgery, he became a funeral director, leaning into the emotional intensity of that space between life and death
Wed, 26 Jun 2024 - 53min - 2621 - Life and death in the holy city
John Lyons, the ABC's Global Affairs Editor, reflects on the Israel-Gaza war, drawing on his background as former Middle East correspondent for The Australian
Tue, 25 Jun 2024 - 51min - 2620 - Like oil and water
A change of heart and a great romance drove Dr Paul Hardisty to walk away from the oil industry and the influence of his brilliant but violent father, and into the world of water
Mon, 24 Jun 2024 - 49min - 2619 - Pack ice, seal fat and the big slide: Tim and Ernest's incredible journey
Tim Jarvis takes you on his adventures, following in the footsteps of explorer Ernest Shackleton, who tried valiantly to cross Antarctica from sea to sea, from 1914-17 (R)
Fri, 21 Jun 2024 - 50min - 2618 - How Leila saw birds anew
Leila Jeffreys was a young photographer when she built a tiny studio specifically for birds. She then began taking heart-stopping images of budgies, owls, eagles and cockatoos
Thu, 20 Jun 2024 - 48min - 2617 - Avani Dias on the rise of Narendra Modi
Avani Dias was working as the South Asia Correspondent for the ABC when she was forced out of India after her reporting fell foul of the Indian government
Wed, 19 Jun 2024 - 52min - 2616 - The beauty of the brain
Neurosurgeon Brindha Shivalingam says it is a privilege to go into someone’s brain and repair the body's most vital organ. She didn’t expect to become the patient in 2019
Tue, 18 Jun 2024 - 45min - 2615 - Michael Theo's childhood dream
Michael Theo found unexpected fame on 'Love on the Spectrum'. Now he's realised a childhood dream: to become an actor
Mon, 17 Jun 2024 - 28min - 2614 - The strange true tale of the tattooed arm regurgitated by a shark
Phil Roope with a true crime saga from 1930s Sydney involving a tiger shark, a severed arm, a Gladstone bag, smuggled cocaine, and a wronged man (CW: graphic descriptions)
Fri, 14 Jun 2024 - 46min - 2613 - The girl who turned her head away
Juliana Nkrumah survived ill treatment at the hands of her stepmother, growing up in Ghana, and got away with a warning from the Mugabe regime when she was teaching in Zimbabwe in the 1980s. And she is still the same girl who was too shy to look her husband in the eyes the first time they met
Thu, 13 Jun 2024 - 50min - 2612 - Free will, liberty and Aristotle in the animal kingdom
Why do we all feel "funny" about zoos? And should we? Dr Jenny Gray is the CEO of Zoos Victoria, and an ethicist fascinated by concepts like liberty and free will in the animal kingdom
Wed, 12 Jun 2024 - 50min - 2611 - Michael Mosley’s legacy: empowering science for the everyday
The late Michael Mosley on his investigations into the complicated and fascinating world of our gut health and the human microbiome (R)
Tue, 11 Jun 2024 - 49min - 2610 - The 700-room nightmare
For a thousand years, Colditz Castle has sat on the edge of a cliff in eastern Germany. It has been a royal hunting lodge, a madhouse, and most famously an inescapable prisoner of war camp (R)
Mon, 10 Jun 2024 - 51min - 2609 - Tabletop, Spank, and SpycraftFri, 07 Jun 2024 - 52min
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