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The podcast series 'Rotten Apple' is available now wherever you listen to your podcasts. In this episode of Motive & Method we talk to the award winning journalist behind Rotten Apple, Camille Bianchi, and also one of the whistleblowers taking part in the podcast. This episode discusses child abuse, grooming and exploitation, please listen with care  

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Recently there have been some very high-profile cases of alleged poisoning, some of which we have already dissected on this podcast. This week we are going to look at the breadth of motives and methods of the people who select this type of weapon to harm someone, and what kind of personality types are more likely to engage in this type of abuse.

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This week the country was shocked by allegations that Nirmeen Noufl (53) killed and dismembered her husband, Mamdouh Noufl (62), who has not been since since May 2023. The police allege this is a case of domestic homicide. The addition of dismemberment, whilst unusual, is not unique, and this week we will compare and contrast a number of cases where women have killed and disarticulated their partner. We will also discuss the differences between male and female murderers who desecrate remains in this manner. A difficult conversation, so listen with caution.

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In this episode we have a very special guest, Jae Gerhard, who we will be talking to about all things forensic DNA. Jae is an expert with over 20 years’ experience, working across all areas of casework – from multiple fatality incidents in the AFP, to crime scene analysis for New South Wales Police. She now works independently, and will be sharing her vast knowledge of new techniques to help us understand advances in forensics and investigation. We will be discussing this in relation to the Easey Street murders and other high-profile cases.

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Childcare predator, Ashley Griffiths, plead guilty to 307 charges recently.  He was active across multiple childcare facilities, with charges against him dating back as far back as 2003.  He will be sentenced in November. This week we look at the motives and methods of those who prey on the most vulnerable, and how they can get away with it for so long.

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We’ve talked a lot about violence against women, in various forms, much of it domestic.  Largely this has focussed on Australian cases, highlighting the epidemic of family and domestic violence in this country. We’ve seen that FDV permeates all strata of society, all cultures.  And nowhere is this more starkly highlighted that in the sleepy, picturesque village of Mazan: The case of Dominique Pélicot.  Behind closed doors, Pélicot enlisted strangers to rape his heavily-sedated wife over the course of a decade. 

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In this episode of the Missing Campers Trial, Penny and Erin are joined once again by leading criminologist Dr Xanthe Mallett, and forensic psychologist Tim Watson-Munro, as they discuss the differences between killers who attack strangers and those who murder people they know.

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This week we will talk about the psychological impacts on families in unsolved child abduction and murder cases.  This discussion is timely, as September 12th of this year is the tenth anniversary since William Tyrrell went missing from his foster family’s home in 2014. Ten years is a long time for his families to wait for answers.  Other cases we will talk about are Madeleine (missing since May 2007), and the Wanda Beach murders – unsolved since 1965.

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In this episode of The Missing Campers Trial, Penny and Erin are joined by leading criminologist Dr Xanthe Mallett, and forensic psychologist Tim Watson-Munro, as they take a deep dive into the mind of Gregory Lynn. 

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On the 26 August 2024, Justin Stein was sentenced to life without the possibility of parole for the brutal and callous murder of 9-year-old Charlise Mutten in January 2022.  Stein claimed that the child’s mother, Kallista Mutten, to whom he was engaged, was the one who shot and killed her. But evidence proved otherwise. GPS tracking on Stein’s phone helped locate Charlise’s body, which Stein had cruelly put in a barrel and dumped off the side of the road. 

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This week we will be talking about female sexual predators, in the wake of two women school teachers being accused of sexual assaulting boys in their care.  There appear to have been a spate of these types of alleged cases this year, but are cases of alleged abuse by teachers on the rise, or are more alleged cases being reported?  We will addressing these questions, as well as discussing why some women target school age boys for inappropriate sexual relationships, what the offender demographics are, and can these women be treated and rehabilitated?

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In 1994 Henry Keogh was found guilty of the murder of his fiancée, Anna-Jane Cheney, and was sentenced to 26 years in prison. Henry’s conviction was overturned in 2014, when it was determined that Anna-Jane had died as the result of a tragic accident – she drowned in the bath whilst home alone. This is the sad case of a death that was misclassified, and a man who subsequently lost two decades of his life – partly due to the manifestly misleading and inaccurate evidence of South Australian ‘forensic pathologist’, Dr Colin Manock. Henry has now embarked on a new, positive life post-release, but he is no doubt scarred by his experience. However, his incredible resilience is a lesson to us all in how to deal with adversity and trauma.”

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Ashlea Hansen is a familiar face to everyone interested in true crime, as she has spent over 15 years reporting on some of Australia’s biggest cases; including Malcolm Naden’s capture in 2012 and William Tyrell’s disappearance in 2014.  Her career has resulted in Ashlea finding herself in some unusual, sad, frightening, uplifting, and sometimes funny scenarios over the years.  We’ll hear some of the moments that she’ll never forget, the cases that have stayed with her, and a little tease about her next big project – a long-format podcast that’s currently in development.

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When Gareth, Nathaniel and Stacey Train shot and killed two police officers and their neighbour at their remote property at Wieambilla in December 2022, the country was shocked. What could motivate these three people to plan and carry out such premeditated violence? As the days unfolded, and we heard about the lives of the killers, their motives gradually became clear – this was Australia’s first case of Christian terrorism. In this episode, we speak to media identity Melissa Downes and senior news producer Jess Lodge, to learn more about this dark episode, and some of the details they have learnt whilst making their podcast on the case, ‘The Ultimate Sacrifice’.

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It’s April 1994, and Anthea Bradshaw has just married her high school sweetheart, Jeff Hall, before embarking on what she believed was her new adventure, a life with Jeff in Brunei, South East Asia. But just 96 days later, Anthea would be found brutally murdered half a world away – and who killed her remains a mystery. On this episode, we delve into the what, why, and how’s of this cold case with journalist Ben Avery, who has devoted years trying to get answers for Anthea’s family.

Search 'Just Married' in your podcast app to hear Ben's investigation. Or tap the link here. 

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We’ve all seen some very scary footage recently of youth gangs targeting stores, stealing goods at knife point.  The impression is that armed retail theft is on the rise, and data backs up that that is true.  We’re also seeing more organised retail theft – much of it is technology enabled scams.  What are the drivers for retail crime?  Who are the offenders, and who are the victims.  And what affect do these types of crime have on them, and society more broadly?  This week we ask, what is retail crime costing you?

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Sunday 7th July saw a father accused of the murder of three young children, and the attempted murder of four others plus their mother, in Sydney’s west.  The case shocked the nation, but fire is a weapon that has become more common for murderers.  This week we talk through the psychology of someone who would use fire as a weapon of murder, in an attempt to understand this inexplicable crime.

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Tim and I have seen many miscarriages of justice in our collective time, but none shock us more than the case of Derek Bromley, who along with John Karpany, were jailed in 1985 for the murder of Stephen Docoza, whose body was found in Adelaide’s River Torrens in 1984. However, the evidence used to convict them is wholly unsound, as you will here. Bother men maintain their innocence. Derek was released last week on parole, after serving over 38 years for a crime he did not commit. Here from legal expert Dr Bob Moles, who knows more about miscarriages of justice in Australia than anyone else. We ask: Is this the most egregious miscarriage of justice in Australian history? You decide.

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The last few days has been full of news and imagery of Julian Assange returning to Australia after 5 years in a British prison for breaching the US Espionage Act.  Assange had faced decades of incarceration in a US prison, until a plea deal was agreed with US prosecutors. This week we talk about Assange, but broaden that out to look at other whistleblower cases, and the psychological and physical implications of long-term confinement.

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On this week's episode of Motive & Method, Tim and Xanthe unpack the case of Greg Lynn and provide an update, post-court proceedings.

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Matricide – or the murder of a mother by their child – is an uncommon form of murder. However, unlike many homicides, history tells us a lot about the types of people who commit this crime. Data suggests men the most likely offenders, and that untreated schizophrenia together with an unhealthy parent/child relationship can be contributing factors.

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We have all seen the horrendous accounts of harm against women, often caused by men they know. But where does this come from? In this episode, we talk about where misogyny stems from, the harm it is causing our kids, how AI is being used to cause further trauma, and how we can try to change the narrative.

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We have recently seen a spate of knife crimes perpetrated by young people. This has included the Sydney stabbing at the church, knife violence between young people, and a 10-year-old girl stabbed to death, allegedly by her 17-year-old sister. In this episode, we discuss the link between young people, crime, and social media.

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On this special episode of Motive& Method, Tim & Xanthe go into the weekend tragic events that unfolded in the Sydney suburb of Bondi Junction where Queensland man Joel Cauchi has been named as the man who killed five women and one man at the Bondi Junction shopping centre during a horrific mass stabbing on Saturday.

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In part 2 of the Keli Lane special we speak to Dr Michele Ruiters from the Bridge of Hope Innocence Initiative at RMIT. We did record this before Keli's parole verdict was handed down, but she offers key insights into Keli's case, the thousands of hours she has applied to the case, her involvement in trying to prove Keli's innocence and Michele's work with the Bridge of Hope Innocence Initiative.

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On this weeks episode of Motive and Method Tim and Xanthe discuss the events around a whistleblowing doctor revealing allegations of secret illicit drug tests conducted to enable AFL players to avoid detection on game days, the federal MP Andrew Wilkie has told parliament.

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On this special episode of Motive & Method Tim and Xanthe revisit an interview they did with Allison Langdon and talk through the Keli Lane case. Keli Lane has today, been denied parole under 'no body, no parole' law

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Welcome back to another episode of Motive and Method. On this weeks episode Tim and Xanthe explore the case of Jesse Baird and Luke Davies. We look at the details surrounding the case, look into the profile of the accused, and what can be done to prevent such acts happening in the future.

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Welcome to another gripping instalment of Motive and Method. In this week's episode, we delve into the headline-grabbing case of Samantha Murthy, a Victorian woman who vanished after embarking on a routine jog in her hometown of Ballarat.

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In the final episode of Motive & Method for 2023, Tim and Xanthe wrap up the biggest cases from the year and discuss what's on the horizon in 2024.

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In this episode of Motive & Method, Tim and Xanthe analyse the murder of Lilie James, a 22 year old woman who was found dead at St Andrew's Cathedral School in Sydney while working as a coach following a 5 week relationship with colleague Paul Thijssen.

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Following the abrupt departure of now former-CEO Alan Joyce from QANTAS amidst suspected allegations of insider trading, Tim & Xanthe take a deep dive into the exploring psychology of corporate fraudsters in high-profile positions within white collar industries.

Tim also shares his experience as the psychologist for Alan Bond: an Australian businessman who became infamous for orchestrating one of the country's largest corporate frauds in the 1980s, eventually leading to his conviction and imprisonment.

His fraudulent activities involved the collapse of Bond Corporation and the misuse of investors' funds & during his bankruptcy trials in the 1990s was believed to have feigned the severity of his brain injury to avoid answering questions in court.

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On this week's episode of Motive & Method, Tim and Xanthe investigate the circumstances surrounding the mysterious deaths of three people who died of death cap mushroom poisoning after a dinner party in Victoria.

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On today’s episode of Motive & Method, Tim & Xanthe explore the psychology behind Lucy Letby, a British nurse who has been sentenced to life in prison for murdering seven babies and attempting to kill six others in a neonatal ward in the English city of Chester.

Read Xanthe's article on The Conversation: https://theconversation.com/access-and-attention-why-serial-killers-like-lucy-letby-often-work-in-healthcare-212105

See Tim on Channel 7 Spotlight: https://7plus.com.au/7news-spotlight

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On today’s episode of Motive & Method, Tim & Xanthe explore the psychology behind who is most vulnerable to being targeted by a cult, the rise of social media as a tool for cult recruitment & how new forms of cults in both political & religious spheres are manifesting around the world and online and casting lasting impacts on some of society’s most vulnerable.

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Anne Hamilton Byrne was a former yoga instructor who deludedly believed herself to be the reincarnation of Christ. 

Under her malevolent influence, up to 28 children were subjected to a nightmarish existence. Their hair was bleached and cropped uniformly, while they endured beatings and even were administered LSD.

The cult would be later publicly referred to as  "The Family" where many of the child victims continue to  bear lifelong psychological scars.

But what are perplexing motivations that drive cult leaders like Anne Hamilton Byrne to exert control, manipulate, and inflict abuse upon vulnerable individuals?

What can be said about the differences between male and female cult leaders?

And is rehabilitation truly possible for the victims of cults like Byrne’s? 

Read Chris Johnston’s book “The Family” 

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In this episode, Tim & Xanthe take a deep dive to explore the psychological, emotional toll that unsolved homicides play on immediate family members. 

Following the murder of her father in the early 2000s, Madison Mcghee has spent the better part of the last five years investigating her father’s mysterious death. 

Does taking matters into your own hand help family members of victims cope & allow them to resolve past traumas or does this come with its own consequences? Who can you turn to when the justice system fails to adequately investigate a cold case? 

Listen to Madison’s podcast“Ice Cold Case”.

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Madison Mcghee was only a child when her father was shot in the doorway of her family home but has spent the past five years investigating her father’s cold case and has taken her on an ongoing quest for new evidence to unravel the truth around the mystery of her father’s death.

What are the lasting impacts on the family members of unsolved murder cases?

Who can you turn to when the justice system fails to investigate a cold case?

And what does it mean to take an investigation into your own hands, when it comes to seeking answers and understanding about cases that get conveniently swept under the rug, or disregarded altogether for seeking resolution?

Listen to Madison’s podcast“Ice Cold Case”.

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This is part two of our conversation with ex-bank robber turned advocate Russell Manser. 

In this episode of Motive & Method, Tim & Xanthe talk to Russell about his experience of institutionalised abuse in boys homes & the prison system and deep dive into his work to alleviate the trauma for other prisoners. 

Find out more about Russell’s work “The Voice of a Survivor”.

Listen to Russell’s podcast “The Stickup”.

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Russell Manser is a man who went from stealing cars and robbing banks and spent the better part of his life behind bars in a number of maximum security prisons & boys homes. 

Today, in his 50s, he is an advocate who helps other prisoners after jail around ongoing issues of institutional sex abuse in prison through his advocacy group “The Voice of a Survivor”. 

He is also the host of his own podcast “The Stickup”

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Welcome to Part 2 of our “Ask an Expert” deep dive with Tim & Xanthe.

Throughout the last season, you had many questions about our work and who we are. Today, we deep dive on everything from the role of humour in working in the criminal justice system, coping strategies for dealing with the long term impacts of being a psychologist & more.

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Throughout the last season, you had many questions about our work and who we are - what it means to be a criminal psychologist / criminologist - and that’s what we’ll be doing today. 

We want to answer all your burning questions in part one of our “Ask an Expert” deep dive.

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In 2003, Kathleen Folbigg was convicted for the murder of her children and has since spent 20 years in prison for crimes she did not commit.

In recent weeks, Kathleen has been pardoned, leaving lasting impacts and questions on how the system may mistreat victims of violence & instead convict them of perpetrators. 

In this episode, Tim and Xanthe ask why the justice system lets women like Kathleen and others down in this way, why these processes take so long & what can be done to mitigate the harmful impacts of wrongful convictions in the future. 

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This week on Motive & Method is  a very special interview with Tracy Chapman, the best friend of Kathleen Folbigg - a woman who has been released from prison following a 20 year long wrongful conviction.

We were lucky enough to speak with Tracy a few weeks ago , the story has developed since then, but believe now more than ever, that we need to shed light on the backstory and nuance around this case.

It really is going to shake the criminal justice system to its core as we have witnessed a woman who's been hated and vilified for 20 years for the murder of three of her children.

Find out more about Tracy’s advocacy - https://justiceforkathleenfolbigg.com/ 

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In this week’s episode of Motive & Method Tim & Xanthe take a deep dive into the state of the prison system in Australia today. 

They discuss how the current prison system is currently organised, how those who have been through the prison system are treated by the public & media when they get out, why certain crimes are weighted differently and explore the opportunities for rehabilitation for life after rehabilitation. 

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Black Widows are a term used to describe the actions of female psychopaths who use their sexuality to prey on weak & vulnerable men and can ultimately lead to murder. 

In this episode, Tim & Xanthe deep dive on the psychology of black widows, the role of victimhood and sexuality as a tool for dominance & explore the idea of “successful psychopathy” and whether there is a place for psychopaths in changing the status quo for traditionally underrepresented & marginalised groups in society. 

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What are the differences between male & female psychopaths? And how can sexuality be used as a tool for murder? In this week’s episode, Tim & Xanthe deep dive into the psychology of female psychopaths, commonly referred to as “Black Widows”.

They speak with author & journalist Derek Pedley, author of “Dead by Friday”, to unpick the case of Michelle Burgess, a woman whose open affair ended her marriage with the premeditated murder.

Read Derek’s book “Dead by Friday" and his latest book “Crazy Bastard”

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Andrew Hamilton was jailed for four months for the large commercial supply of magic mushrooms and LSD less than 2 years ago. He could have faced life behind bars. Today, he is a stand up comedian who shares his story of his time in jail and rehabilitation with crowds in comedy clubs all across the country.

In this episode of Motive & Method, Tim and Xanthe speak to Andrew about his experience of the prison system in Australia to discuss how certain crimes are weighed within both the legal system and amongst other criminals in jail, and what life looks like after being behind bars.

You can see Andrew Hamilton’s Sydney Comedy Festival show “Jokes I Wrote the Time I Went To Prison” at The Factory Theatre.

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Why is child sex abuse in the Catholic Church so rampant? Can we define the difference between child sex abuse and institutional child sex abuse? And are paedophiles drawn to the Catholic Church or does the system itself create the ideal climate for abuse?

Those are just some of the questions Tim and Xanthe explore in this week's episode of Motive & Method.

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So why is child sex abuse in the Catholic Church so rampant? 

In this episode of Motive & Method, Tim & Xanthe take a look at the Bindoon Boys Town, a re-homing program and an isolated institution run by the Christian Brothers, a catholic order.

Bindoon Boys Town that took in as many as 130 000 young boys from around the world under the wing of the Catholic Church. But it was only years later that news would emerge that the boys living there were routinely being abused by the men that were meant to protect and raise them. 

Tim & Xanthe then speak to Peter Gogarty - an academic at the University of Newcastle, who shares his own story about his experience with child sexual abuse under the Catholic Church.

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Why do we know some victims' names and not others?

In this episode of Motive & Method, Tim & Xanthe explore how conscious bias is enacted in the justice system and serves to protect some groups of people, while others are left more vulnerable. 

If the victim is seen as totally innocent, criminologists describe them as the “ideal victim”, which in turn garners more sympathy and ultimately more attention from the media, the public, and sometimes the police. Its impacts are longstanding and can even determine the fate of victims, survivors and those before the courts fighting for justice and restitution for certain crimes.  

So who can we turn to when the police cannot be trusted? 

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Warning: This episode contains the stories of First Nations Australians who have since passed. 

What value is attached to a human life and how much do we sympathise with victims comes down to how much we can relate to them? And who does the legal system serve to protect in crimes largest cases and who does it neglect? 

On today’s episode of Motive & Method, Tim & Xanthe speak to one of Australia's more respected homicide detectives, Gary Jubelin. 

Gary Jubelin was involved for years in investigating the Bowraville Murders - a currently open case which saw three missing Aboriginal children murdered in a small town over a five month period between 1990 and 1991.

To find out more about Gary, listen to I Catch Killers with Gary Jubelin.

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This week, Tim & Xanthe take a look at how domestic violence & coercive control manifests in toxic relationships. 

They examine the red flags and patterns of behaviours that exist in these relationships, provide profiles of both the perpetrator & victims & explore both top down and bottom up approaches to instigating change from within the legal justice system and within our own lives.

If you fear you or someone you know might be in a domestically violent relationship, act now. Call 1800RESPECT. 

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What are the common personality traits of individuals who murder their spouses? Can we identify the patterns of coercively controlling relationships before they manifest into their furthest extremity? 

In the first episode of Motive & Method, Tim & Xanthe share the stories of two women whose lives are affected by domestic violence and coercive control in their relationships: Hannah Clarke & Helen Cummings. 

To find out more about Helen Cummings’ story, read her book ‘Blood Vows’.

If you fear you or someone you know might be in a domestically violent relationship, act now. Call 1800RESPECT. 

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Join criminologist Xanthe Mallet and criminal psychologist Tim Watson Munro as they unpack what really makes the offenders tick behind some of history’s most notorious cases.

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