With The Perrys

Ray Ortlund is back on the podcast to discuss the topics of pornography, human dignity, sexuality, and marriage. As a pastor, Ray has come to realize that porn is the wallpaper of our culture.

The “unimpressive” life you live today is really important. Even the mundane matters. God is using it and will bless you and future generations through your faithfulness.

Justin Giboney joins the Perrys for a conversation on politics. Justin is the co-founder of the AND Campaign, a Christian civic organization for raising civic literacy among Christians so that we can engage in a better way.

It’s been a minute since the Perrys have done a Q&A episode, but we’ve got one for you this week.

Megan Ashley joins the Perrys to talk about her upbringing, faith journey, and hardships of the past several years. As a mom to a child with autism, Megan believes the church should step in to support families, and she’s advocating for churches to become more conscious of special needs.

Philip Anthony Mitchell is back for Part Two of his conversation with the Perrys, talking about problems with the American church.

Philip Anthony Mitchell sits down with the Perrys for a conversation on the urban context and darkness of his childhood, how he was changed by prison, the idea of calling, and the deep reverence and affection he now has for the Lord.

Many of us have experienced hurt within the church or have had seasons of disconnection from a local faith community. Even if we haven’t, we probably see areas where our current church context could be improved. So what does a healthy church look like and how can we be a part of its flourishing?

You know the word ‘emotional’ – we’ve all got feelings – and you’ve heard the term ‘idolatry.’ But it’s rare that we hear the two words as a phrase together. Emotions are not wrong – having them is evidence that we’re created in the image of God. But if we’re not careful, emotions can dictate our world and realities instead of God’s truth.

Young men today want to be poured into, and Priscilla Shirer’s new movie is all about the power of prayer and discipleship in a boy's life. In this episode, Priscilla talks with the Perrys about parenting boys and how God has taught her to surrender her comfort in the “rough and tumble” of them growing up to be men.

We can’t grow in our relationship with God without questioning Him, but many of us run from hard questions or feel discouraged and angry when the answers we find are not emotionally satisfying to us.

Have you ever thought you were a better Christian than other Christians? We can all be self-righteous at times, but it’s bad theology.

How do you steward your influence? This is a valuable question for every Christian. If you’ve been called out of darkness into His marvelous light, that is your platform to display His goodness.

Dr. Sarita Lyons has written a book to encourage Black women specifically – based on their unique lived experience – and she sits down with the Perrys to talk about it.

What does it look like for husbands and wives to support each other without ego or insecurity getting in the way?

What do you think about sex? It has serious physical, social, emotional, and spiritual implications. It’s the closest physical bond two human beings can have.

Dating at any age is hard, and dating now looks different than it did “back then” (this is true no matter when your “then” might have been).

Prayer will always be a struggle because it concerns our dependence. “Do I trust myself today, or do I trust God to meet my needs?”

A few months back, Dr. Eric Mason joined Jackie and Preston to talk about church dynamics and denominations, and it got some pushback from members of the SDA (Seventh Day Adventism) community.

Jackie and Preston sit down with Brenna Blain to discuss some hard things.

Trauma can show up in all relationships, not just romantic ones. And “friendship trauma” may sound dramatic, but experiences with others can legitimately affect your view of yourself, even the concept of friendship in general.

When a man named Brian Dye started coming to Preston’s poetry events, Preston admits he didn’t trust him. But Brian had a burden to see young believers walk toward sanctification, and he felt called by God to help Preston to cultivate his influence.

When it comes to women in ministry who know a thing or two about studying the Bible, Jackie and her two guests, Jasmine L. Holmes and Melissa Kruger, have a ton to offer.

Can we be honest? This episode almost didn't happen because The Perrys found themselves in a funk when it was time to record. Jackie admits she’s recently felt as though she’s been holding back the hand of depression.

Ezekiel & Kiyanna Azonwu have been married for 15+ years, and in this episode they talk with the Perrys about things like attraction, discerning who to pursue romantically, maintaining intimacy in marriage, and flourishing in Christian community.

Pride is an illusion wrapped in a lie, and it's in each of us. It’s our desire for total independence from our Creator, and it makes us feel good because we feel secure and capable.

Preston operates in a number of roles: husband, father, evangelist, apologist, poet... and now, he's added "author" to the list.

In celebration of a decade of marriage, Jackie and Preston react to their wedding video and reminisce about everything from Jackie’s dress and “flower distributors” to whether or not Preston cried as she walked down the aisle and the reason they were late for their own reception.

The story of the woman at the well is a lesson from Jesus about how to do ministry.

What's destructive, expensive, & detrimental to your soul? Porn.

Dr. Eric Mason joins the Perrys for a conversation on cults and other cultural ideologies.

A well-known pastor and radio host recently came under fire for his public opinion on attending the wedding of a same-sex couple, and it got the Perrys talking.

Before penning books, the Perrys penned poems. In this episode, Preston and Jackie give us a behind-the-scenes look inside a few of their favorite pieces.

Today’s episode is a conversation between Jackie and Preston about the things that compete for our attention and take away from adequate time in God’s word.

Preston Sprinkle doesn’t shy away from the tension of wrestling with what the Bible says about marriage and sexuality. He joins the Perrys on today’s episode to discuss some of his methods in approaching the topic of same-sex marriage.

Why is it important we address sin when presenting the gospel? Because people need to know what stands in the way of their relationship with God… but how we communicate really matters.

Join Jackie and Preston for Part 1 of a conversation on engaging those around us with the gospel, and being anchored in love as we do so.

On today’s episode, Jackie and Preston are joined by mentors and friends CD and Melody Fabien for a conversation about fighting for intimacy in marriage.

In this episode, Jackie and Preston talk about what it truly means to cultivate holistic boldness as a Christ follower today.

From being long distance to living in the same city and then taking a pivotal trip together to the Caribbean, the Perrys’ dating relationship had a bit of a rocky start.

A conversation with Preston about his book-writing experience turns into a much bigger dialogue about the creative process.

The Bible tells us we need other Christians and we’re missing something if we don’t gather together to hear God’s Word, but our relationship to church can still be complicated.

Jackie teaches through Genesis 16 – the story of Hagar, Abram, and Sarai – reflecting on the unique questions that only a woman might think to ask of this text.

Jackie and Preston revisit a conversation had during the very first season of the podcast five years ago – how to argue well.

If we don't fully understand the deity of Jesus, we run the risk of worshiping the wrong God.

Any time we attempt to be faithful to the gospel and build anything of eternal value, there will be opposition.

We're kicking off Season Six with our brother, Ezekiel Azonwu. Listen in as Ezekiel and Preston give us a sneak peek of what to expect on their upcoming We Need To Talk Tour.

Our Patreon community is full of thought-provoking and Gospel-centered engagement, but we also give members a special behind-the-scenes glimpse into life With The Perrys.

This one's about Kanye and how Christians can counter culture to help wake up Mr. West.

Ever been intimidated by or skeptical about homeownership and/or real estate investing?

Politics. It’s how people become dehumanized in the sight of the “free” and the hearts of the “brave.”

Friends. How many of us have them?

Our friendship with Caresse has been . . . complicated.

Whether you believe in it or not, every believer engages in spiritual warfare.

Ask any healthy couple and they’ll tell you that communication is key for a strong relationship.

At the root of anxiety is one tiny word that has the power to suck joy and contentment out of saints and aints alike—fear.

8 balls, tube socks, and rocks—OH MY!

The phenomenon of celebrity is quite…strange.

Does running his bath water, baking him cookies, and rubbing his back equate to submission?

Let’s be clear— headship and dominance are not the same thing.

For the final episode of the season, we're answering questions from our Patreon Saints. They wanted to know if Jackie disciples people she doesn't know, our thoughts on witchcraft, and more.

Listen in as Jackie picks Preston's brain about guns and how to make sense of a complex subject.

We clearly knew something about sex before getting married but sadly, most of our perspectives were toxic.

If you heard someone use the word “Black biblical interpretation”, would you have any idea what they meant by it? We didn’t until we had a chat with Esau about it and we soon realized it’s a practice the entire church would greatly benefit from.

Should I call my friend by their preferred pronoun? How should I walk with people within the trans community? Is polyamory wrong?

Friends are like family. Especially friends that have the same faith as you. So it can be devastating when a friend leaves the faith they once represented.

The Bible tells us to guard our hearts right? Well, how often have you thought about how to apply the principle to your marriage relationship?

One God, in three distinct persons?? Confusing, we know.

We’re joined by Davey Blackburn, a man who knows what grief is and how God is faithful to show up in it.

Everybody gets mad. Some of us are angry at petty stuff. Some of us are angry at the right stuff. But how do we discern between the two or even recognize when we are dealing with anger at all?

Dating: the topic everybody loves to discuss. It feels like we covered everything in this conversation. Dating according to our “types”. Dating non-Christians and the like. Why men aren’t “choosing,” and more…

Our most downloaded episode in all three seasons is “Storytime with Preston Perry” and it’s clearly because Preston has the wildest stories.

If you've been around Preston for more than a day, you'll soon find out that he tells the best stories.

Listen in as Preston picks Jackie's brain about holiness in anticipation of her new book, Holier Than Thou.

Questions that need answer is a short segment where Preston and Jackie discuss a really random yet interesting topic.

In this episode of With The Perrys, Jackie and Preston discuss why social justice chatter can be awkward and reasons why it shouldn't be.

Questions that need answer is a short segment where Preston and Jackie discuss a really random yet interesting topic.

Fame isn't inherently bad but even then, it still comes with its share of snares and temptations. Preston and Jackie discuss their own experiences with fame and how Christians, no matter the size of their platform, can make sure that God's praise matters most.

Eric Mason, the editor of Urban Apologetics: Restoring Black Dignity with the Gospel joins Jackie and Preston to offer wisdom on how the church can equip itself to answer the questions that these growing religious groups are asking.

Especially among Christians, the public shaming of certain individuals and groups may or may not be necessary but how do we determine when "canceling" someone is the righteous thing to do?

In this episode of With The Perrys, Jackie and Preston are joined by Charlie Dates. The Pastor of the Historic Progressive Baptist Church in the Southside of Chicago to talk more about all things "Black Church."

Listen as Jackie and Preston discuss their own experiences with therapy and why they believe every Christian should get some.

Marriage is to be honored as the Bible directs us but is it being held in highest honor? Or in other words, have we, the church, made an idol out of the institution of marriage?

On this episode of With The Perrys, Preston and Jackie dig more into the concept of sexuality and self-denial and the reasons why it's typically not welcomed with open arms.

Every relationship we will ever have will at some point have some conflict. Whether it's with our partners, our friends, our co-workers, and our kids, the hard situations that will arise are inevitable but even then, they don't have to be avoided.

Listen in as the Perrys discuss their first impression of each other, how they came to realize that they were each other's "one," and other details that both singles and spouses would be able to glean from.

Jackie and Preston discuss their thoughts on being quarantined, trusting God to provide financially, parenting during a pandemic, and the sovereignty of God.

Back again is another episode of "Teach The Text" where either Jackie or Preston take a book or passage from the Bible and teach it.

Jackie never considered herself a "girly girl," or whatever that means. She, like many women, found themselves being labeled a "tom boy" or "masculine" because she didn't wear purses and the like. These words were spoken by people who never had a biblical framework for how to understand gender in the first place.

Giftedness and the success that can accompany it isn't gendered. Both men and women have the capacity to do great things with the gifts God has given them. But for some women, this comes with a hefty price.

We're introducing a new series to 30 Minutes with The Perry's titled "Teach The Text."