Wise Men Say

Gareth is joined by The Sunderland Echo's Phil Smith to discuss a comfortable 2-0 win over Oxford United.

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Eeeeeh another win. Eleanor, Mick and Rick discuss in the pub. 

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Gareth is joined by Jimmy Reay and Micky Lough to discuss the win at Luton and preview the visit of Oxford United.

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Stephen is joined by Micky Lough in the pub to chat about the win at Hull. There’s also the Luton game to look forward to. 

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Richard Easterbrook is joined by Michael Lough and Jimmy Reay to look ahead to Sunderland's trip to Hull City on Sunday as domestic football returns following the international break.

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Stephen and Gareth take you into the international break by laughing some more at that howler, and they also reflect on Sunderland's impressive start to the season. 

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Eleanor McCabe is joined by Michael Lough as we react to Sunderland's 2-2 draw with Leeds!

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Richard Easterbrook is joined by Michael Lough and Eleanor McCabe as they react to Sunderland's 2-0 win over Derby County, while looking ahead to Friday's home encounter against Leeds United!

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The Monday debrief is here as Sunderland slip to defeat at Vicarage Road. Stephen is joined by Eleanor and Jimmy to discuss.

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Richard Easterbrook is joined by Michael Lough and Eleanor McCabe to talk Hornets (and Wasps), Regis Le Bris and Sunderland ahead of the Black Cats' trip to Vicarage Road on Saturday.

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Another fancied side beaten. Is there something good happening here? Stephen and Gareth catch up in the pub to discuss.

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Eleanor McCabe is joined by Michael Lough as we react to Sunderland's 1-0 win over Middlesbrough!

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Richard Easterbrook is joined by Jimmy Reay as the lads preview Sunderland's home game against Middlesbrough on Saturday. There's the customary debate about whether it's a derby or not, and there's also some Boro insight from The Northern Echo's Scott Wilson.

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Stephen Goldsmith and Gareth Barker are joined by former Black Cat Lee Howey to discuss our first defeat of the season.

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Hear from Micky Lough during his day out to Plymouth. 

All that way to watch The Lads suffer a surprise defeat. Sigh. 

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Stephen Goldsmith is joined by Michael Lough and Jimmy Reay to look ahead to Sunderland's SkyBet Championship fixture at Plymouth Argyle, where the Black Cats can create history by winning their first five games of the season.

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Stephen catches up with Ali Maxwell, a regular Sky Sports pundit but more importantly, founder of the excellent Not The Top 20</a> website and podcast, unrivalled in all the things you could possibly want to know about teams currently outside the top flight. Be sure to check them out and engage with their top quality content.

Find them at https://www.ntt20.com

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Gareth Barker is joined by the Sunderland Echo's Phil Smith to assess another win, the transfer window and our excellent start to the season.

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Eleanor McCabe is joined by Michael Lough as Sunderland's perfect start to the season continues with a fine 3-1 away win at Portsmouth!

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Richard Easterbrook is joined by Michael Lough and Jimmy Reay as the lads look ahead to Sunderland's trip to Portsmouth and answer some listener questions.

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Eleanor McCabe is joined my WMS regulars Chris Wetherspoon, Tom Walsh and Jimmy Reay to discuss an excellent win over recently relegated Burnley.

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Life after Clarke starts with a win. Burnley are as tough a test as you'll get at this level and both sides won their first two. Eleanor and Mick are in the pub and happy. 

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Was it inevitable that Sunderland would sell Jack Clarke? Probably. Does that make it less of a gut punch? Absolutely not. Do the profiles of the incomings look better than some of the more recent signings? Seemingly. Stephen, Gareth and Eleanor discuss.

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Richard Easterbrook is joined by Michael Lough and Jimmy Reay to preview Sunderland's game against Burnley - they also take a look at the transfer window and have a brief look back at the Black Cats' 4-0 win over Sheffield Wednesday

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Stephen Goldsmith and Gareth Barker discuss the brlliant win over Sheffield Wednesday. 

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Richard Easterbrook is joined by Stephen Goldsmith and Michael Lough to discuss a fantastic first home win of the season.

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Richard Easterbrook is joined by Jimmy Reay and Jon Lambert as the lads preview Sunderland's first home game of the season against Sheffield Wednesday. They also look back at the Black Cats' League Cup exit to Preston North End as well as their opening Sky Bet Championship victory at Cardiff City.

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Stephen and Gareth are back for the Monday offering. Eleanor and Micky join them to discuss a fine 2-0 in Cardiff on Saturday.

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We're back! Football is back! Sunderland are back! And they're off to Cardiff City on Saturday. Richard Easterbrook is joined by Stephen Goldsmith and Matthew Keeling to look back at the pre-season campaign and to take a closer look at the Bluebirds - just how will Regis Le Bris set his side out in South Wales?

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Richard Easterbrook and Jimmy Reay catch up with Julien and Raphael from FC Lorient podcast La Tavarn to talk all things Regis Le Bris, while there's a bit of chat about Chris Rigg penning a new three-year deal.

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Stephen and Matt talk about the arrival of a new Head Coach and those gorgeous new kits!

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Eleanor McCabe and Chris Weatherspoon react as Sunderland have finally ended their search for a head coach with the appointment of Régis Le Bris. They are joined by Get French Football News writer Nick Hartland who brings us the lowdown on the new man in the hotseat.

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Sheffield Wednesday who had about 2 points in October end up just 3 behind Sunderland. Only Rotherham have worse form than The Lads since Dodds was given the job and encouraged to "plod along until the end of the season". Final Reaction of the season with Eleanor, Mick, Stephen and Gareth.

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Matthew Keeling and Richard Easterbrook convene to preview Sunderland's final game of the season and to answer some listener questions.

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Gareth Barker and Michael Lough discuss another miserable defeat away at Watford.

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Matthew Keeling and Richard Easterbrook do their best not to look back on the Millwall match and do their best to preview the Watford game.

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Stephen Goldsmith, Gareth Barker and Jimmy Reay discuss anything other than the actual game we're supposed to talk about.

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Eleanor McCabe and Michael Lough react to the Millwall defeat.

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Gareth Barker and Jimmy Reay react to the win at West Brom.

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Matthew Keeling and Richard Easterbrook take a look ahead of Sunderland's trip to West Bromwich Albion, while having a chat about the 0-0 draw at Leeds United in midweek.

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Eleanor McCabe and Michael Lough react to the draw at Leeds.

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Eleanor McCabe and Richard Easterbrook react to the draw with Bristol City.

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Richard Easterbrook, Gareth Barker and Eleanor McCabe preview the visit of Bristol City.

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Eleanor McCabe and Michael Lough react to an astonishgly bad defeat to Blackburn.

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Eleanor McCabe and a returning Rory Fallow react to an excellent win at Cardiff.

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We chat to former Sunderland striker Lee Howey in our first-ever Wise Men Say Social - a live show / podcast hybrid recorded at These Things Happen in Sunderland. Join Stephen Goldsmith, Gareth Barker and Matthew Keeling as the lads chat to Lee, with some questions from the floor.

Keep an eye on our socials for the next Wise Men Say Social!

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Gareth Barker, Eleanor McCabe and Michael Lough discuss the current situation at SAFC.

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Matt Keeling and Richard Easterbrook are back to preview Sunderland's home game against Queens Park Rangers with details of an up and coming event, and your listener questions!

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Stephen Goldsmith, Gareth Barker and Jimmy Reay discuss Sunderland's defeat at Southampton.

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Matt is back for a preview pod - and he's brought Richard with him. And they're in the car again. Is it 2023? The lads are here to look ahead to Sunderland's trip to Southampton while reviewing the 1-0 defeat to Leicester City on Tuesday.

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Stephen Goldsmith and Matt Keeling sit down for a chat with former Black Cats man Thomas Butler. The lads discuss Thomas's time in red and white as well as looking back at Sunderland's recent results and Saturday's trip to Norwich City.

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Stephen Goldsmith and Gareth Barker discuss Sunderland's latest defeat.

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Eleanor McCabe, Jimmy Reay and Richard Easterbrook react to Sunderlands 2-1 home defeat to Swansea.

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Richard Easterbrook is joined by Michael Lough to preview Sunderland's home match against Swansea City, while the lads react to the departure of Michael Beale earlier in the week.

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Stephen Goldsmith, Gareth Barker and Matt Keeling react to the departure of Michael Beale after just 11 games in charge.

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Richard Easterbrook is joined by Michael Lough and Jon Lambert to look back on Sunderland's 1-0 defeat at Huddersfield, talk about the new series of Sunderland 'Til I Die and preview the Black Cats' trip to Birmingham City,

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We preview the new season of Sunderland 'Til I Die, which drops on Netflix on Tuesday, February 13.

Stephen and Richard speak to Ben and Gabe Turner from STID producers Fulwell73, and catch up with Sunderland captain Luke O'Nien, who plays a major role in the new series as the cameras follow the League One promotion season.

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Richard and Mick react to the win over Plymouth.

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Seven years in the making!!

Stephen, Gareth and Matt sit and have a pint with George Clarke and chat about his love for Sunderland as well as how Sunderland as a city is starting to significantly change. 

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Stephen Goldsmith, Gareth Barker and Reaction Show host Eleanor McCabe discuss Sunderland's 1-1 draw at Middlesbrough.

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Matt Keeling is joined by Richard Easterbrook to react to Sunderland's transfer window, and to preview the Black Cats' trip to Middlesbrough on Sunday. There's also a Barnsley perspective on new signing Callum Styles.

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Stephen, Gareth and WMS regulars Tom Walsh and Jack Austwicke discuss the Stoke win, the Pritchard situation and the latest transfer news.

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Eleanor McCabe is joined by Michael Lough to discuss Sunderland's first victory since New Year's Day, a 3-1 win over Stoke City. They also go over the pre-match news that Alex Pritchard has requested to leave Sunderland.

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Richard Easterbrook is joined by Jimmy Reay to preview Sunderland's game against Stoke City on Saturday, while there's opportunity to look back at the Black Cats' 1-0 defeat to Hull City last Friday.

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Stephen, Gareth and WMS regular Chris Weatherspoon to discuss the after math of our home defeat to Hull City.

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Eleanor and Mick react to our defeat against Hull.

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Matt Keeling is once again joined by Richard Easterbrook to discuss a Michael Beale sighting in the wild, transfer rumours and the visit of Hull City to Sunderland on Friday night.

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Stephen, Gareth and Matt discuss our defeat at Ipswich Town.

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We're back to preview Sunderland's trip to Portman Road as the lads face Ipswich Town in the SkyBet Championship. Matthew Keeling and Richard Easterbrook take a look at the last week or so and mull over Michael Beale's potential selections as we return to league action.

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Stephen and Gareth are joined by The Chronicle's James Hunter to discuss a defeat at the hands of Saudi Arabia's Newcastle.

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Eleanor McCabe is joined by Richard Easterbrook and Michael Lough to react to Saturday's 3-0 defeat to Newcastle United in the FA Cup third round.

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Stephen, Gareth, Matt and Richard come together to briefly look back at the Preston win and, most importantly, preview the visit of the Mags. We get a Newcastle view from TalkSport correspondent and Ashes winner Steve Harmison.

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Eleanor McCabe is joined by Michael Lough as Sunderland get 2024 off to a winning start with victory against Preston North End, where even a striker got on the scoresheet!

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Eleanor McCabe is joined by Michael Lough and Richard Easterbrook to look back at Sunderland's Boxing Day win at Hull while previewing the visit to Rotherham United.

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Matthew Keeling does his very best Michael Barrymore impression as he hosts the annual WMS Christmas Quiz. Battling for bragging rights this year is Stephen Goldsmith, Jimmy Reay and Richard Easterbrook. Who comes out on top? Yule be a pudding to miss out! Sorry.

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Stephen Goldsmith and Gareth Barker are joined by WMS regular Micky Lough to discuss the appointment of Michael Beale and the Mag ticket fiasco.

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A defeat at Bristol City. Worse cities to be stuck in I guess. 

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Matt Keeling is joined by Tom Walsh and Richard Easterbrook to preview Sunderland's trip to Bristol City, fresh from winning their last two games back to back.

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Stephen Goldsmith and Gareth Barker are joined by the Sunderland Echo's Phil Smith to discuss the WBA win, preview Leeds and discuss managerial movement.

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Eleanor McCabe, Stephen Goldsmith and Mick Lough react to our 2-1 win over West Bromwich Albion.

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Richard Easterbrook is joined by Michael Lough, Jimmy Reay and Jon Lambert to talk about Sunderland's managerial search and to preview Saturday's game against West Brom.

There's also expert Baggies input from Adrian Goldberg.

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Well, he was on the brink wasn't he? Gareth, Eleanor, Chris and Jim gather for a late night reaction to the sacking of Tony Mowbray.

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Stephen Goldsmith and Gareth Barker are joined by WMS regular Eleanor McCabe to discuss a point at Millwall and a ridiculous draw in the FA Cup 3rd Round.

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Matt and Stephen look back at an appalling loss at home to Huddersfield, and ahead to a trip to Millwall. 

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Gareth Barker is joined by WMS regulars Richard Easterbrook an Mick Lough to discuss the defeat at Plymouth and preview the visit of Huddersfield. 

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We're back from the international break, fully refreshed as Sunderland travel to Plymouth Argyle at the weekend. Matthew Keeling is joined by Richard Easterbrook and Melissa Johnson to preview the trip to Devon.

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Stephen and Gareth are joined by The Northern Echo's Scott Wilson to discuss the win over Birmingham City. 

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Eleanor McCabe hosts alongside a gaggle of WMS contributors as we react to a home win over Birmingham City

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Matt Keeling is back with Richard Easterbrook as the lads preview the visit of Birmingham City to the Stadium of Light. There's also a Blues perspective from Chris of We Are Birmingham Podcast.

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Eleanor McCabe is joined by Jimmy Reay and Jack Austwicke to discuss the draw at Swansea. 

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Gareth is joined by WMS regulars Eleanor McCabe and Jack Austwicke to preview the trip to Swansea. We get a Swansea view from Steven of The Jackcast.

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Stephen and Matt team up to do the Monday pod on a Tuesday and we don't event know what the usual order and combinations are anymore. Micky Lough joins them as they look back to the win against Norwich.

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Gareth and Eleanor react to our win over Norwich City.

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Continuing the random hosting order, Stephen heads up this week's Preview Show as Jimmy joins him to look ahead to the Norwich match. We also hear from Pete from For Fox Sake Podcast and Freddie from My Football Writer, to get Leicester and Norwich perspectives respectively.

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Gareth and Matt are joined by WMS regular Jimmy Reay to discuss the defeat at Stoke City.

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Matt Keeling is joined by Richard Easterbrook and Melissa Johnson as we preview Sunderland's trip to Stoke City and discuss what we've been up to during the international break.

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We were invited to the magnificent Beacon of Light to speak to former Sunderland chairman Sir Bob Murray about his new book I'd Do It All Again, which covers his life story from humble beginnings in Consett to becoming the man that masterminded Sunderland's move to a new stadium, a new training ground, helping build Wembley Stadium and St George's Park and establishing the Foundation of Light alongside the Beacon of Light itself.

All proceeds from the book, which costs £20, will go to the Foundation - it's well worth a read and we're really grateful for Sir Bob in giving up his time for the podcast.

The book is available here

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Stephen and Gareth are joined by WMS regular Jimmy Reay to discuss a humbling at the hands of Middlesbrough.

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Eleanor McCabe is joined by Jack Austwicke and Michael Lough as we react to a chastening 4-0 defeat by Middlesbrough.

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