The New Abnormal

Bestselling author and “Morning Joe” anchor Mika Brzezinski shares “as much as [she] can” about her and co-host Joe Scarborough’s recent date with president-elect Donald Trump, and pushes back on the backlash to their get-together. Hear from The Daily Beast’s executive editor Hugh Dougherty, who returns to the pod to share more scheming and subterfuge among the Mar-a-Lago regulars also jockeying for Trump’s favor, and learn who caught RFK Jr. ordering more junk food.

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A look at Brendan Carr, Trump’s pick for chair of the Federal Communications Commission, and the way he has incorrectly been pitched as a “free speech advocate.” Then, Lucy Dean Stockton, an editor and reporter at The Lever, joins the program to discuss the very specific way Trump could erase many of President Joe Biden’s recent regulatory wins. Plus! a conversation with Jared Holt, a senior research analyst at the Institute for Strategic Dialogue, about the growing threats of hate, extremism and misinformation online.

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President-elect Donald Trump’s defense secretary nominee Pete Hegseth could provoke a purge of career military experts from the Pentagon—which appears to be exactly what he wants, explained The New Abnormal co-hosts Andy Levy and Danielle Moodie. Plus! Stephanie Mencimer, senior reporter at Mother Jones, delves deeper into the controversies and allegations surrounding Trump’s attorney general nominee, former congressman Matt Gaetz.

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As President-elect Trump continues to announce surprise pick after surprise pick for his Cabinet, The New Abnormal co-hosts Andy Levy and Danielle Moodie discover what they have in common. Plus! Melissa del Bosque, investigations editor at Lighthouse Reports, talks about the implications of Tom Homan’s appointment as “border czar.” Then we'll talk to journalist Noah Hurowitz about the legislation that would be able to declare nonprofits terrorist organizations.

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Organizational psychologist and author Adam Grant joins this week’s podcast to help unpack America’s political baggage, sharing leadership advice and coping strategies for the current moment. The Daily Beast’s executive editor Hugh Dougherty offers insight into the “patio power games” playing out at Mar-a-Lago as president-elect Donald Trump assembles his new administration—which may be filled with outlandish, cable TV personalities, but is ruled behind the scenes by a 67-year-old grandmother in aviator shades.

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A week after the U.S. presidential election, The New Abnormal co-hosts Andy Levy and Danielle Moodie reflect on what Kamala Harris could have changed in her campaign strategy. Plus! Dean Obeidallah, host of the The Dean Obeidallah Show on Sirius XM Radio is here to talk about his recent piece posted to their substack.

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In the aftermath of Donald Trump’s victory in the 2024 election, co-host Samantha Bee has some tough talk for President Joe Biden and his team. Former Daily Beast editor-in-chief John Avlon joins the podcast to discuss the lessons learnt from his own run for Congress, and comedian Michael Ian Black has news for everyone.

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This week on The New Abnormal, co-hosts Andy Levy and Danielle Moodie aren’t pinning a lot of the blame on Kamala Harris’ election loss on the vice president. Plus! Podcaster Jared Yate Sexton joins the show to discuss how Trump will affect the country years beyond his upcoming term. Then, Nicholas Grossman, an international relations professor at the University of Illinois and senior editor of Arc Digital, discusses his latest piece, “America Chose This.”

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An exploration of why people have started leaving the former president’s rallies early. Then, a conversation with Survival of the Richest: Escape Fantasies of the Tech Billionaires author Douglas Rushkoff about Elon Musk and the increasingly weird obsessions of the ultra wealthy. Plus! Katherine Stewart, author of The Power Worshippers: Inside the Dangerous Rise of Religious Nationalism,joins the program to discuss the rise of the Christian right and its wholehearted embrace of Trump.

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Steve Bannon told Laura Loomer this week that the left is having a meltdown at the prospect of Donald Trump giving her a job in the White House if he wins next week’s election. Plus! W. Kamau Bell joins The New Abnormal to talk about his new viral video, Who’s Gonna Catch Your Kid?

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This week on The New Abnormal, writer and editor at The Lever, Lucy Dean Stockton, tells us all about her recent piece covering Trump’s promise to appoint Musk, which could allow for a special tax benefit available only to government officials. Then, Gabriel Snyder, the editor in chief of The Fine Print, is here to tell us about his seven steps to surviving election night.

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Journalist and author Michael Wolff joins Joanna Coles and Samantha Bee on this week’s episode to offer insight into the jockeying egos on Donald’s Trump “manic” campaign—and that MSG rally. New Jersey Senator Cory Booker calls in from the Harris trail, and Daily Beast Special Correspondent Harry Lambert recaps party animal Jeff Bezos’ social calendar amid much turmoil at his newspaper, The Washington Post.

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Jay Willis, the editor-in-chief of

nonprofit legal journalism outlet Balls & Strikes, joins the program to discuss why Elon Musk has gone all in on Trump. Plus! A conversation with Phoebe Petrovic, an investigative reporter with the nonprofit outlet Wisconsin Watch, about her latest piece: “The genesis of Christian nationalism: How the religious right came to influence the 2024 election.”

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The New Abnormal co-hosts Danielle Moodie and Andy Levy sound off on Tucker Carlson’s bizarre diatribe on Wednesday in Georgia, where the former Fox News host compared a second Donald Trump presidency as akin to a father coming home to give his little “girl”—the country—a “vigorous spanking.” Then, a conversation with Daniel Nichanian, the editor-in-chief of Bolts, who joins the pod to break down the outlet’s Cheat Sheet to the 2024 General Elections, explaining which local races are the ones to keep an eye on.

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The New Abnormal’s Danielle Moodie and Andy Levy are baffled. Donald Trump meets the definition of a fascist, would govern like a dictator if allowed to, and seemingly has no understanding of the concept of rule of law. So why are so many Americans still intent on voting for him? Also on the pod this week: Geoffrey Fowler, a Washington Post journalist, who talks about Meta’s covert operation to shadowban political content. Plus! Denny Carter, the founder of the Bad Faith Times, who has an astute comparison to draw between an NFL quarterback and this year’s presidential election.

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With less than two weeks until Election Day, Joanna Coles and Samantha Bee are joned by political strategist James Carville for intel—and an insider’s take—on the state of the presidential race. They speak with Daily Beast Special Correspondent Harry Lambert about media kingpin Joe Rogan as well as would-be political kingpin RKF Jr., and bemoan the state of “shrill” women in media.

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As Elon Musk unveils his latest scheme, a proposed plan to give away $1 million each day to registered voters in battleground states, the co-hosts of The New Abnormal have just one question: Where is U.S Attorney General Merrick Garland? Plus! A talk with Brian Merchant, a former technology columnist for the Los Angeles Times. Merchant, the author of “Blood in the Machine: The Origins of the Rebellion Against Big Tech,” breaks down exactly how Musk’s tech projects have become inseparable from his authoritarian aspirations.

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The New Abnormal team shines a light on Trump’s strategy when he is asked about a topic he doesn’t want to address.  Plus! Dr. Alice Chen, the founder of Doctors for Harris, joins the Bonus Podcast to talk about the many ways that Donald Trump and the storm of misinformation he brings with him everywhere he goes, is actually incredibly bad for your health and your families.

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 “Something is clearly not right” with the former president, The New Abnormal co-hosts agree. Then, The Washington Post’s national columnist Philip Bump joins the program to discuss his approach to covering Trump—which Levy says is a “rare bright spot” in the genre. Plus! A talk with Charlie Warzel, a staff writer at The Atlantic, about his most recent piece, titled “I’m Running Out of Ways to Explain How Bad This Is,” and the crisis of misinformation currently plaguing America.

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On this week’s The Daily Beast Podcast, guest John Oliver and co-host Samantha Bee take a trip down late-night TV memory lane, sharing fun times and lessons learned from their time as correspondents on ‘The Daily Show.’ Joanna Coles and Sam dive deep into the Beast’s exclusive story of the consultant making serious bank on Trump’s campaign payroll, and obsess over Kanye West’s sexploits as well as other, unrelated sex toys. 

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This week on The New Abnormal, David Noll, a professor of law at Rutgers Law School, is here to talk about the new book he co-authored, “Vigilante Nation: How State-Sponsored Terror Threatens Our Democracy.” Then we'll talk to journalist Gareth Gore about his new book, “Opus: The Cult of Dark Money, Human Trafficking, and Right-Wing Conspiracy inside the Catholic Church.”

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The New Abnormal team have skewered the former president’s comments that women love him, calling them “sick on every level.” Plus! Talia Lavin joins the podcast to talk about her new book Wild Faith: How the Christian Right Is Taking Over America.

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This week on The New Abnormal, when we should have taken Georgia Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene seriously. Plus! Semafor’s National political reporter, Dave Weigel, expands on the Republican party’s fresh new hell. Then, author Jonathan Metzl joins the show to talk about the MAGA mentality, and how we got here.

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This week, Joanna Coles and Samantha Bee talk all things Melania and share the latest scoop on Silicon Valley with Jessica Lessin, CEO of The Information. Sam shares her experiences with menopause and Joanna talks celeb sightings at opening night of the new Robert Downey Jr. play on Broadway.

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Melania Trump’s recent revelation that she supports abortion rights—in clear opposition to her husband’s own positions on the issue—may have shocked some, but The New Abnormal co-host Danielle Moodie wasn’t surprised or moved by the admission. Then, senior political reporter at Rolling Stone—and former Daily Beast reporter—Asawin Suebsaeng joins the program to discuss his most recent piece, “‘American Death Squads’: Inside Trump’s Push to Make Police More Violent.” Plus! A conversation with Katya Schwenk, a reporter at The Lever, about her recent story, “The Toxic Loophole Behind a Chemical Plant Disaster.”

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The New Abnormal hosts flame Melania Trump over her defense of abortion. Plus! ProPublica investigative reporter Ava Kofman and Amanda Tyler, executive director of the Baptist Joint Committee for Religious Liberty (BJC) in Washington, D.C., take listeners on an in-depth look at the rise of Christian nationalism in the United States and its effect on the right-wing.

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The New Abnormal co-hosts Danielle Moodie and Andy Levy are angry about the current political mess that Americans find themselves in—but not at who you might think. Plus! A conversation with Andrew Garber, a lawyer at the Brennan Center's Voting Rights and Elections Program, about the sorry state of U.S. election law.

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The New Abnormal listeners, please enjoy the newest episode of The Daily Beast's new podcast! The Daily Beast Podcast is as wildly exciting, energizing, and entertaining as the topics it covers. Bringing their sharp wit and insights to each episode, co-hosts Joanna Coles (Chief Creative & Content Officer of The Daily Beast) and celebrated comedian and political commentator Samantha Bee will navigate the latest in politics, pop culture, and everything in between. 

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Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz failed to meet the moment at Tuesday’s vice presidential debate in New York City in one big way, according to the hosts of The New Abnormal. 

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This week on The New Abnormal, why Trump’s version of horror film “The Purge” has been happening for decades. Plus! The Stanford Constitutional Law Center's Matthew Seligman joins us to discuss election law, disputed presidential elections, and why JD Vance's comments on such things might be extremely dangerous. Then, Edith Olmsted, associate writer for the New Republic, is here to tell us all about her recent piece, “Trump’s Idiot Son Feels ‘Totally Vindicated’ Over J.D. Vance Pick.”

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Brian Glenn of the far-right outlet Real America’s Voice says Americans should demand to see the IDs of people at polling places if they think they shouldn’t be there.  Plus! Rashad Robinson, the president of Color of Change, joins Danielle Moodie to discuss his organization’s efforts to fight for the voting rights that are being challenged in many states and in many Black communities.

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The New Abnormal co-host Andy Levy isn’t so sure that Trump will actually follow through on his promise to quit golfing. Then, a conversation with the Daily Beast’s Chief Creative & Content Officer Joanna Coles and Emmy-winning comedian Samantha Bee about The Daily Beast Podcast, a new way to discover and engage with the day’s most interesting stories. Plus! Editor at The Bulwark Jonathan V. Last joins the program to discuss his most recent piece, “Stop the Steal Part 2 Is Coming,” and Trump’s efforts to take back the White House—whether he wins in November or not.

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The New Abnormal listeners, please enjoy the first episode of The Daily Beast's new podcast! The Daily Beast Podcast is as wildly exciting, energizing, and entertaining as the topics it covers. Bringing their sharp wit and insights to each episode, co-hosts Joanna Coles (Chief Creative & Content Officer of The Daily Beast) and celebrated comedian and political commentator Samantha Bee will navigate the latest in politics, pop culture, and everything in between. 

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This week on The New Abnormal, hosts Danielle Moodie and Andy Levy react

to North Carolina gubernatorial campaign of Republican Lt. Gov. Mark Robinson and his

pornography bombshell. Plus! Blake Chastain, host of the Powers and Principalities podcast

and writer of the Post-Evangelical Post newsletter is here to tell us all about his new book and

the rise in power of white evangelical Christians inside the Republican party. Then, activist and

recovering addict Ryan Hampton joins us to tell us all about his new book, “Fentanyl Nation:

Toxic Politics and America's Failed War on Drugs.”

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The New Abnormal listeners please enjoy! The Daily Beast Podcast is as wildly exciting, energizing, and entertaining as the topics it covers. Bringing their sharp wit and insights to each episode, co-hosts Joanna Coles (Chief Creative & Content Officer of The Daily Beast) and celebrated comedian and political commentator Samantha Bee will navigate the latest in politics, pop culture, and everything in between. 

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Despite saying at the presidential debate that he hasn’t read Project 2025 and doesn’t want to read it, Trump has acknowledged it will provide a plan if he is elected president. Plus! The New York Times’ best-selling author Jason Pargin joins the podcast to talk about his new novel I’m Starting to Worry About This Black Box of Doom.

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Co-hosts of The New Abnormal Danielle Moodie and Andy Levy are steamed that Gov. Mike DeWine and Springfield Mayor Rob Rue had only a mild message for former President Donald Trump after he took to the national stage to spew a disproven conspiracy theory about their residents. Then, investigative journalist Radley Balko joins the pod to talk about Trump’s promise to carry out what would be the largest deportation operation in U.S. history. Plus! A conversation with David Rothkopf, CEO of the DSR Network and regular Daily Beast contributor, about his latest piece.

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The hosts of The New Abnormal explore JD Vance’s unimpeachable weirdness. Then Maya Wiley, former New York City mayoral candidate, ex-MSNBC legal analyst, and current president and CEO of The Leadership Conference, arrives just in time to discuss her new book, Remember, You Are a Wiley. Plus! A conversation with independent journalist Justin Glawe about election officials who just so happen to also be election deniers.

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The New Abnormal team dismantles JD Vance’s claim that bringing in migrants to work in Springfield, Ohio is not the “path to prosperity.’ Plus! Journalist Jessica Pishko joins the podcast to talk about her new book, The Highest Law In The Land: How The Unchecked Power Of Sheriffs Threatens Democracy

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This week on The New Abnormal, hosts Danielle Moodie and Andy Levy reflect

on Trump’s disaster of a debate performance. Plus! Founder and author of The Present Age

newsletter Parker Molloy joins us to talk about the media’s efforts to “sanewash” Donald Trump

and why people might not be falling for it. Then, we talk to The New York Times tech reporters

Kate Conger and Ryan Mac about their upcoming book, “Character Limit: How Elon Musk

Destroyed Twitter.”

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This week on The New Abnormal, co-hosts Danielle Moodie and Andy Levy react to the first–and possibly only–presidential debate between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump.

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This week on The New Abnormal, Olivia Little, an investigative researcher at Media Matters, talks about her experience attending Moms for Liberty's annual Joyful Warrior Summit. Then, Dr. Reagan McDonald Mosley, CEO of Power to Decide, tells us about her organization’s efforts to advance sexual and reproductive wellbeing.

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White nationalist Nick Fuentes may have once dined with former president Donald Trump but he has now turned on him for finally admitting that he lost the 2020 election to Joe Biden. Plus! Yale Professor Jason Stanley, author of the bestselling novel How Fascism Works: The Politics of Us and Them, talks to Danielle Moodie about the upcoming election and the stark contrast between Donald Trump and Kamala Harris.

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Andy Levy and Danielle Moodie react to a Goldman Sachs report that suggested the U.S. economy may take a hit if former President Donald Trump retakes the White House. Then, a conversation with The Washington Post media reporter Will Sommer, who joins the program to discuss the indictment of two employees of Russian state-backed media company Russia Today (RT); part of an investigation that exposed a number of American right-wing internet personalities for allegedly taking money from an organization funded by Russian interests.

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This week on The New Abnormal, hosts Danielle Moodie and Andy Levy take issue with Trump’s latest comments surrounding Kamala Harris and Mike Pence. Plus! Journalist, historian and author Rick Perlstein joins us to tell us all about his recent piece for the American Prospect. Then, Dr. Jamil Zaki is here to tell us about their new book, “Hope for Cynics: The Surprising Science of Human Goodness.”

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Republican vice presidential nominee JD Vance gave a very JD Vance explanation of America’s inflation rates when he was asked about a policy to address the problem on the campaign trail in Wisconsin. Plus! Author Maggie Tokuda-Hall, who wrote the children’s book Love in the Library, joins the podcast to talk about the history of Banned Books Week and why the importance of this year’s celebration (Sept. 22-28).

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The New Abnormal co-host Danielle Moodie was appalled at reports this week alleging a “physical altercation” between a Trump employee and Arlington National Cemetery official.

Then, David Sirota, the founder and editor-in-chief of The Lever, joins the pod to talk about their new 10-part investigative podcast series Master Plan, which chronicles exactly how corporate forces and politicians worked to legalize corruption in the United States, putting in place a plan to turn our democracy into a kleptocracy. Plus! A conversation with journalist Tiffany Cross, who kicks it off with a discussion on what it means that Harris and running mate Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz are finally, finallysitting down for a major interview with a mainstream media outlet.

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The New Abnormal muses on the fact that Donald Trump has found himself on the defensive for perhaps the first time in his political career. Then, Semafor’s Washington Bureau Chief Benjy Sarlin joins the program to discuss the 2024 Democratic National Convention and the party’s return to what he calls “Obamaism.” Plus! A conversation with Katya Schwenk, a reporter at investigative newsroom The Lever, about her most recent piece, “Leonard Leo’s Swing-State Voter Purge.”

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Giuliani told Mike Lindell that Donald Trump’s former chief strategist Steve Bannon is being unfairly treated in prison. Plus! Journalist and author Casey Michel joins the podcast to talk about their new book, Foreign Agents: How American Lobbying and Lawmakers Threaten Democracy Around the World.

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This week on The New Abnormal, hosts Danielle Moodie and Andy Levy discuss all the big news from the Democratic National Convention. Plus! Author Steve Benen joins the podcast to break down the method the Republican campaign is using to rewrite recent history.

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This week on The New Abnormal, hosts Danielle Moodie and Andy Levy break down Fox News’ response to the Democratic National Convention. Plus! Jonathan Metzl, the author of “What We’ve Become: Living and Dying in a Country of Arms,” joins us to break down Kamala Harris’ gun policy and why Tim Walz might be the X-factor needed to make it happen. Then Denny Carter, founder of Bad Faith Times, is here to break down his recent piece and why Harris needs to keep ignoring the mainstream media’s pressure.

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 JD Vance continues to strike out, especially when it comes to knowing what women want.“What is it that JD Vance thinks that normal women care about other than control over their own bodies?” said The New Abnormal co-host Danielle Moodie. Plus! Historian Frank Andre Guridy joins the podcast to talk about his new book, The Stadium: An American History of Politics, Process, and Play.

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This week on The New Abnormal, Chief Creative and Content Officer of the Daily Beast Joanna Coles stops by to talk about JD Vance and the weird ways that men are hijacking a woman’s moment in this election season. Plus! Anat Shenker-Osorio, host of the political podcast Words to Win By, joins the show to discuss how Democrat’s messaging has changed since the arrival of Kamala Harris.

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This week on The New Abnormal, why Trump will need to divert from his strategy of pushing a broken economy. Plus! Josh, the publisher of the newsletter Ettingermentum, shares why he thinks attacking Republicans for being “weird” is a real winning strategy. Then, Shannon Watts, the founder of Moms Demand Action, joins the program to detail the origins of the “White Women for Kamala Harris” Zoom call.

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Former President Donald Trump said the quiet part out loud at a rally in Atlanta last weekend—admitting he is supporting electric vehicles because of Tesla founder Elon Musk's endorsement. The New Abnormalco-hosts couldn’t believe that the same voters who elected Trump to the White House in 2016 on a pledge to “drain the swamp” enthusiastically applauded the former president kowtowing to Musk. Plus! Erin Matson, the co-founder and executive director of Reproaction, a national group increasing access to abortion services, joins the podcast to talk about the current landscape of reproductive healthcare in the U.S.

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Madeline Peltz, the deputy director of rapid response at liberal watchdog group Media Matters joins The New Abnormal to talk about Heritage Foundation President Kevin Roberts’ new book—which includes a forward from Donald Trump’s running mate, JD Vance. Plus! A discussion with Meredith McGraw, a national correspondent at Politico, about her new book, Trump in Exile, which chronicles the former president’s retreat to Mar-a-Lago after his defeat in 2020.

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This week on The New Abnormal, why one word has taken such a toll on Trump. Then, Andrew Lawrence, Media Matters for America’s deputy director of rapid response, joins the show to explain why the word “weird” is working for Democrats. Plus! Asawin Suebsaeng, a Rolling Stone senior politics reporter, delves into Donald Trump’s involvement with Project 2025.

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The Project 2025 plans that are implied rather than stated are alarming, one legal expert tells The New Abnormal—specifically, how the DOJ would crack down on illegal immigration.

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This week on The New Abnormal, Ed Zitron, CEO of EZPR and the host of tech podcast, “Better Offline,” explains why all these Northern California tech bros are ride or die for Donald Trump. Then, Dr. Regina Davis Moss, the president & CEO of In Our Own Voice: National Black Women’s Reproductive Justice Agenda and the In Our Own Voice Action Fund, talks about the devastating effect on Black women of right-wing attempts to overthrow women’s bodily.

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On this week’s The New Abnormal, guest Spencer Ackerman asks for the political equivalent of a pony. Then, jack-of-all-trades film producer, political commentator, former White House aide and author of the book Why Does Everything Have to be About Race?,Keith Boykin, joins the program to discuss Democrats’ renewed sense of energy since Vice President Kamala Harris’ rapid ascent to presumptive 2024 nominee.

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The New Abnormal team believes that J.D. Vance is proving to be the Republicans’ new Jeb Bush.  Plus! Journalist Joe Conason joins the podcast to talk about his new book, The Longest Con: How Grifters, Swindlers and Frauds Hijacked American Conservatism.

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Sen. Bob Menendez ate at one particular D.C. steakhouse hundreds of times a year—and The New Abnormal guest host David Roth demands to know how. Then, a conversation with New Republic staff writer Alex Shepherd about Kamala Harris’ chances and his recent piece: “Donald Trump Is Now the Weaker Candidate.” Plus! Judd Legum, the founder and author of the newsletter Popular Information, joins the program to discuss the brazen—and often false—Republican attacks on Kamala Harris.

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The New Abnormal co-hosts Danielle Moodie and Andy Levy sit down to reflect on all things Kamala Harris, voicing tentative optimism for how smoothly everything seems to be going… so far. Then, Tim Miller, a former Republican operative and host of The Bulwark Podcast, joins the pod to discuss Harris’ potential running mates and how Team Trump might be planning to react. Plus! A conversation with author Sarah Kendzior about Joe Biden’s legacy and what brave new world in which the Democrats have suddenly found themselves.

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VP Kamala Harris was endorsed by nearly every major Democrat on Sunday but some are still scheming behind closed doors. The New Abnormal is here to make the case for being unanimously coconut-pilled.

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The liberal redneck, Trae Crowder, says he spent time with J.D. Vance in 2016 “pounding beers” and lamenting how bad President Trump would be for America. Plus! Jennifer Berkshire, host of the podcast, Have You Heard, joins The New Abnormal to talk about her book, The Education Wars: A Citizen’s Guide and Defense Manual.

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This week on The New Abnormal, co-hosts Danielle Moodie and Andy Levy have plenty to say about Trump’s RNC speech. Plus! Senior reporter for New York Magazine, Sarah Jones, is here to tell us all about the National Conservatism Conference, what that means and why Trump’s VP pick, J.D. Vance, is all about it. Then, Veronica Riccobene, a reporter for The Lever, joins us to talk about their recent article on Vance and why his dangerous abortion stances are being whitewashed by the media.

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What does J.D. Vance offer beyond more of the absolute same? The New Abnormal is here to get to the bottom of it. Then, Rep. Jared Huffman joins The New Abnormal to get down to brass tacks as to what replacing Joe Biden as the Democratic nominee would actually look like. Plus, a conversation with Professor Shawn Ginwright about his book The Four Pivots: Reimagining Justice, Reimagining Ourselvesand what it means to react to this moment of crisis.

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The New Abnormal team says Americans are being distracted by talk about Biden’s age and are not focusing on the potentially dangerous consequences of Project 2025. Plus! Danielle Moodie speaks with Vox journalist Zach Beauchamp on his book The Reactionary Spirit: How America's Most Insidious Political Tradition Swept the World.

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This week on The New Abnormal, Aaron Kleinman, director of research for The States Project, spills on the key states we should be looking out for in the November elections. Plus! Investigative reporter at Wisconsin Watch and ProPublica, Phoebe Petrovic, joins us to break down her recent article surrounding how a militant anti-abortion activist is influencing Republican politics.

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With their current presidential candidate facing a crisis of confidence, Democratic politicians and liberal media figures have been casting about blindly for an alternative. It’s a fool’s errand, The New Abnormal co-hosts Danielle Moodie and Andy Levy agree. Then, CNN correspondent Elle Reeve shares some of the findings from her new book: Black Pill: How I Witnessed the Darkest Corners of the Internet Come to Life, Poison Society, and Capture American Politics. Plus! A conversation with Samhita Mukhopadhyay about her recent book, The Myth of Making It: A Workplace Reckoning.

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Professor Stephen J. Ducat tells The New Abnormal podcast how feeling like part of a tribe is giving Americans, especially those on the right-wing, a sense of belonging.

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Andy Levy and Danielle Moodie, co hosts of The New Abnormal, reflect on the past year in American history—and the craziest figures in American politics. Then, Defector editor David Roth and journalist Jeb Lund, the co-hosts of their own podcast called It’s Christmas Town, join the program for a special Fourth of July quiz show segment. Plus! A conversation with author Suzette Mullen about her new memoir, “The Only Way Through Is Out,” which chronicles her experience coming out as a lesbian late in life.

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The New Abnormal’s Andy Levy and Danielle Moodie place their bets for Donald Trump’s vice presidential pick. Then Antonieta Cadiz, the deputy executive director of Climate power En Acción, joins the program to discuss how climate change is disproportionately affecting Latino communities. Plus! A conversation with New York Times bestselling author and Dartmouth professor Jeff Sharlet about his new book “The Undertow: Scenes From a Slow Civil War.”

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Biden’s frozen moment at the debate had many suggesting he drop out of the race. However, few are talking about Trump appearing to short circuit this week during an interview. Plus! Jay Willis, the Editor-in-Chief of Balls & Strikes, joins the podcast to break down all the decisions that the Supreme Court made this week.

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President Joe Biden had a rough night Thursday at the debate, but CNN moderators Jake Tapper and Dana Bash also turned in an abysmal performance of their own, according to The New Abnormal co-hosts Andy Levy and Danielle Moodie. Then, Parker Molloy, writer of the Substack The Present Age, joins the program to talk about the fact checking site Snopes’ recent determination that Donald Trump actually didn’t call the white supremacists and neo-Nazis at the infamous Charlottesville rally “very fine people”—and why the site is wrong. Plus! Investigate reporter Katya Schwenk, a reporter at investigative site The Lever, discusses a particularly egregious Supreme Court ruling recently which allows politicians to accept monetary gifts.

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This week on The New Abnormal, hosts Danielle Moodie and Andy Levy can only see a downhill spiral for Trump’s mental acuity. Plus! Author and journalist Lucian K. Truscott IV dishes on a right-wing media company that doesn't get as much attention as Fox News, but is perhaps equally dangerous. Then, author and professor of philosophy at Georgetown University-Qatar, Karl Widerquist, explains the meaning behind the idea of universal basic income, or UBI.

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Valentina Gomez, who is running for Secretary of State of Missouri, is trying to be the loudest, most outrageous voice on the right. Plus! The New York Times bestselling journalist Jeff Goodell joins the podcast to talk about his new book, The Heat Will Kill You First: Life and Death on a Scorched Planet.

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“The most frustrating thing to me about this is the fact that Donald Trump’s attorneys walked into the Supreme Court–I know that this sounds like the beginning of a joke, it is, but it’s not funny–and said basically that if Donald Trump as president decided that he wanted to get Team SEAL 6 to go ahead and kill his political opponent he could do that and unless he was found to be impeached by the House and by the Senate, then he’s not liable for the crimes that he commits. It shouldn’t have taken hours of deliberation to make a decision here,” Moodie said. “It’s a case that never should have been heard at all. It should have just been dismissed out of hand and they could have just simply written ‘no’ and that would’ve been the end of that. Or ‘no, this is stupid. Stop bothering us with this crap,’” Levy said.

Plus! CNN commentator S.E. Cupp talks to The New Abnormal about her new show on Fox TV called Battleground and why Democrats need to stop trying to replace Joe Biden this close to the election. MSNBC legal analyst Glenn Kirschner also joins the podcast to talk about all the Trumpworld co-stars currently in jail or on trial.

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Kellyanne Conway’s Fox News appearance over the weekend angered The

New Abnormal co-hosts Andy Levy and Danielle Moodie greatly. Then, Stasha Rhodes, the

executive director of United for Democracy, joins the program to discuss the push to

counter a well-funded, far-right influence campaign on the Supreme Court. Plus! A

conversation with New Republic staff writer and author Melissa Gira Grant about

conservative efforts to ban the abortion drug Mifepristone.

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The former president downplayed the threat of climate change, falsely claiming that the seas will rise over the next 400 years by just “one eighth of an inch.” Plus! ! Author Alan Gratz, who wrote the children’s book Ban This Book, talks to Andy Levy about a campaign by Moms for Liberty and Ron DeSantis employees to take that title literally and ban his book.

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This week on The New Abnormal, hosts Danielle Moodie and Andy Levy look at the Supreme Court’s abortion pill ruling in more detail. Plus! Jason Starr, Director Of Litigation at the Human Rights Campaign, details a Florida judge’s ruling striking down one the state’s harsh transgender law. Then, Egyptian filmmaker Ibrahim Nash’at talks about his journey filming the Taliban over the course of a year for his film, “Hollywoodgate.”

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Atlanta-based civil rights attorney Kianna Chennault joins The New Abnormal to discuss the importance of fighting for diversity initiatives in the face of far-right pushback. Plus! A conversation with The New York Times’ global economy reporter Peter Goodman about his new book, “How the World Ran Out of Everything,” which unpacks the COVID-era global supply chain crisis that clogged the global economy for months on end.

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Right-wing pundits are already worried that Hunter Biden will beat a conviction in his gun trial, and they’re resorting to the same old tricks to rile up supporters. Plus! Danielle Moodie talks to Deepa Iyer, creator of the Social Change Map and author of the book, Social Change Now: A Guide for Reflection and Connection.

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This week on The New Abnormal, hosts Danielle Moodie and Andy Levy react to the surprising names being asked to submit paperwork for Trump’s VP list. Plus! The CEO of the Ms. Foundation for women, Teresa Younger, joins the show to talk about her organization's efforts to empower women to achieve equality, equity, and opportunity. Then, filmmaker and professor at Loyola University, Stephen Ujlaki, spills about his latest documentary, “Bad Faith.”

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Academic and author Eddie Glaude Jr. joins The New Abnormal, discussingwhether President Joe Biden is acting like the white moderate Martin Luther King Jr. spoke of.Plus! A conversation with Vicky Hausman, the co-founder of an organization called Forward Majority, about the need for Democrats to reclaim state legislatures across the country after decades of neglect in the party’s state apparatuses.

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As Donald Trump waits until July to be sentenced, The New Abnormal team discusses what may happen if he gets thrown in prison. Plus! Andy Levy talks to Professor Madiba Dennie about her new book, The Originalism Trap: How Extremists Stole the Constitution and How We the People Can Take It Back.

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This week on The New Abnormal, hosts Danielle Moodie and Andy Levy react to the guilty verdict of Donald Trump in his election interference case. Plus! Princeton University law professor Kevin Kruse talks about the latest tactic being voted on by the Texas Republican Party. Then, historian and author Kellie Carter Jackson joins the show to talk about her latest book, “We Refuse: A Forceful History of Black Resistance.”

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Lisa Graves, the host of a new Supreme Court-focused podcast called Grave Injustice, joins The New Abnormal to discuss an alternate vision for the high court. Plus! A conversation with music critic Steven Hyden about his new book, “There Was Nothing You Could Do: Bruce Springsteen's ‘Born In The U.S.A.’ and the End of the Heartland.”

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The former president’s supporters are already laying the groundwork—if he’s convicted in his hush money trial—to allege the whole thing was rigged. Plus! Danielle Moodie speaks with Professor Jenn M. Jackson from Syracuse University about her new book Black Women Taught Us: An Intimate History of Black Feminism.

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This week on The New Abnormal, hosts Danielle Moodie and Andy Levy discuss the fallout of Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito’s controversial flag choices. Plus! We’re at the tail end of Trump’s hush-money trial, and author Jennifer Taub is here to give her thoughts. Then, The Daily Beast media reporter Justin Baragona talks about the right’s newest fever dream.

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Author Adam Serwer joins The New Abnormal this week to discuss the latest in a string of recent Supreme Court scandals. Plus! Mini Timmaraju, the President and CEO of Reproductive Freedom For All joins the program to discuss the downward spiral of reproductive healthcare in the United States.

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The Heritage Foundation’s extreme Presidential Transition Project proposes sweeping changes to government and packing the next GOP administration with extreme loyalists to Trump. Plus! Tech journalist and author of Blood in the Machine, Brian Merchant, talks to Andy Levy about the tech industry’s obsession with trying to create the dystopian futures portrayed in media.

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This week on The New Abnormal, author Dahlia Lithwick talks us through the recent developments at the Supreme Court. Plus! Journalist Judd Legum joins the show to discuss the right-wing’s weaponization of cancel culture and its implications.

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Semafor politics reporter Shelby Talcott joins The New Abnormal this week to discuss the state of the 2024 race. Plus! A conversation with author Joshua A. Douglas about his new book, “The Court v. the Voters: The Troubling Story of How the Supreme Court Has Undermined Voting Rights.”

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he former Fox News host went all woo woo during a recent appearance on Joe Rogan’s podcast. Plus! Danielle Moodie speaks with historian Federico Finchelstein about his new book The Wannabe Fascists: A Guide to Understanding the Greatest Threat to Democracy and how Trumpism and similar movements across the world belong to a new political breed.

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This week on The New Abnormal, co-hosts Andy Levy and Danielle Moodie are shocked about what Trump said at a recent meeting with big oil executives. Plus! Legal expert Chris Geidner talks Trump’s latest legal woes. Also, Tara McGowan, the founder and publisher of Courier, joins the show to talk about modern media and the journalism business.

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This week on The New Abnormal, co-hosts Andy Levy and Danielle Moodie discuss the battle between the RNC and mail-in ballots—and the debate over what constitutes a democracy versus a republic. Then, author and historian Ruth Ben-Ghiat talks about one of Trump’s latest horrifying interviews. Plus! Author Arthur Goldwag on his new book and America’s susceptibility to conspiracies.

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Proud incel and misogynist Nick Fuentes disgustingly detailed how he would do it. Luckily for everyone, he remains desperately single. Plus! Academy, Emmy, and Peabody Award winning filmmakers, Andrea Nix Fine and Sean Fine, talk to Andy Levy about their chilling new documentary, The Sixth, which details six very personal and harrowing accounts from some of those people who lived through the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol.

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