Proof: A True Crime Podcast

Susan Simpson, Jacinda Davis, and Kevin Fitzpatrick share updates on the status of Jake Silva's case. SHOW NOTES: Visit our website for episode transcripts, behind the scenes photos and more.  Follow us on social media: on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @proofcrimepod@gmail.com.  If you have information about Renee Ramos' murder please contact us at proofcrimepod@gmail.com or at (929) 267-3172, or you can reach out to Jake's attorneys: Audrey McGinn / The Innocence Center /audrey@theinnocencecenter.org or Lauryn Barbosa Findley / The Northern California Innocence Project / lauryn.barbosafindley@scu.edu SPONSOR DEALS: Sign up for ButcherBox today by going to Butcherbox.com/proof and use code proof at checkout to get $30 off your first box!   Sign up for a $1 per month trial period at shopify.com/prooftruecrime. Stop wasting money on things you don’t use. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to RocketMoney.com/proof. This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/ PROOF and get on your way to being your best self. Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code PROOF.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A witness comes forward with new information about Renee’s last days. And an unexpected discovery could be the break that brings Jake Silva one step closer to freedom. The murders of LaToya Lusk and Karen “Mary” Nelson remain unsolved, but the Proof team takes new evidence to Memphis detectives. This is the last scheduled episode of Murder at the Warehouse, but Susan Simpson, Jacinda Davis, and Kevin Fitzpatrick will continue to investigate and post updates along the way. Visit our website for episode transcripts, behind the scenes photos, and more. Follow us on social media: on Instagram, X and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod, @jacindaproof and @soosimp. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @proofcrimepod@gmail.com.  SPONSOR DEALS: To get 15% off your next gift, go to UNCOMMONGOODS.com/proof. That’s UNCOMMONGOODS.com/proof, for 15% off! Don’t miss out on this limited time offer! Uncommon Goods. We’re all out of the ordinary.   New ButcherBox members that sign up using our link will receive their choice between a whole turkey, turkey breast, or a spiral ham + $20 off when they visit butcherbox.com/proof and enter code proof at checkout.  Go to HelloFresh.com/proofapps for FREE appetizers for life! This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Visit BetterHelp.com/proof today to get 10% off your first month. Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code PROOF. Stop wasting money on things you don’t use. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to RocketMoney.com/proof.    Sign up for a $1 per month trial period at shopify.com/prooftruecrime.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In Episode 16 of Proof: Murder at the Warehouse, Susan and Jacinda interviewed two witnesses who came forward with new information about the murder of Renee Ramos. The team discusses those interviews and Susan points out possible Brady violations uncovered during the course of our investigation. It's the final SIDEBAR of the season, but that doesn't mean Susan, Jacinda, and Kevin will stop working on the case... expect special SIDEBAR episodes in the coming months. Visit our website for episode transcripts, behind the scenes photos, and more.  Follow us on social media: on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @proofcrimepod@gmail.com.  SPONSOR DEALS:   Sign up for ButcherBox today by going to Butcherbox.com/proof and use code proof at checkout to get $30 off your first box!  Go to HelloFresh.com/proofapps for FREE appetizers for life! This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/ PROOF and get on your way to being your best self. Sign up for your trial today at Noom.com and experience Noom’s psychology and biology based approach! Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code PROOF. Stop wasting money on things you don’t use. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to RocketMoney.com/proof.   Sign up for a $1 per month trial period at shopify.com/prooftruecrime.   Go to Quince.com/proof to upgrade your closet and get free shipping and 365-day returns on your order!   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Coming forward with information about a murder can be scary, and for some people it comes with consequences. But with every person who does come forward, we get a little bit closer to finding the truth. In this episode of Proof: Murder at the Warehouse, Susan Simpson and Jacinda Davis talk to witnesses who chose to come forward in spite of the impact it could have on their lives. Visit our website for episode transcripts, behind the scenes photos, and more.  Follow us on social media: on Instagram, X and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod, @jacindaproof and @soosimp. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @proofcrimepod@gmail.com.  SPONSOR DEALS: This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/ PROOF and get on your way to being your best self. Sign up for ButcherBox today by going to Butcherbox.com/proof and use code proof at checkout to get $30 off your first box!  Go to HelloFresh.com/proofapps for FREE appetizers for life! Sign up for your trial today at Noom.com and experience Noom’s psychology and biology based approach! Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code PROOF. Stop wasting money on things you don’t use. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to RocketMoney.com/proof.   Sign up for a $1 per month trial period at shopify.com/prooftruecrime.   Go to Quince.com/proof to upgrade your closet and get free shipping and 365-day returns on your order! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

With season two winding down, vital information continues to come in. Faced with a tidal wave of innuendo and rumors, Susan and Jacinda fight the temptation to jump to conclusions.   Visit our website for episode transcripts, behind the scenes photos and more.  Follow us on social media: on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @proofcrimepod@gmail.com.    SPONSOR DEALS: This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/ PROOF and get on your way to being your best self. Sign up for ButcherBox today by going to Butcherbox.com/proof and use code proof at checkout to get $30 off your first box!  Go to HelloFresh.com/proofapps for FREE appetizers for life! Sign up for your trial today at Noom.com and experience Noom’s psychology and biology based approach! Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code PROOF. Stop wasting money on things you don’t use. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to RocketMoney.com/proof.   Sign up for a $1 per month trial period at shopify.com/prooftruecrime.   Go to Quince.com/proof to upgrade your closet and get free shipping and 365-day returns on your order!   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Their first interview with Tim Fisher left Susan, Jacinda, and Kevin with more questions than answers. Now, better prepared, they are ready to meet with him again and share what they have learned about the case. And the team takes a distressing drive to look for someone who could hold answers to solving the case. Visit our website for episode transcripts, behind the scenes photos and more.  Follow us on social media: on Instagram, X, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod, @jacindaproof and @soosimp.   Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @proofcrimepod@gmail.com.  SPONSOR DEALS: This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/ PROOF and get on your way to being your best self. Sign up for ButcherBox today by going to Butcherbox.com/proof and use code proof at checkout to get $30 off your first box!   Sign up for your trial today at Noom.com and experience Noom’s psychology and biology based approach! Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code PROOF. Stop wasting money on things you don’t use. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to RocketMoney.com/proof.    Sign up for a $1 per month trial period at shopify.com/prooftruecrime.   Go to Quince.com/proof to upgrade your closet and get free shipping and 365-day returns on your order! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In Episode 14 of Proof: Did You Find the Real Killer, Eric Greer’s mother shared startling information about her son and why he felt compelled to record a video statement about Renee Ramos’ murder. But other witnesses did not want to get involved – not back then and not now either. Meanwhile, Jared Conway sent a letter that ties him to an unsolved murder in Tennessee. Susan Simpson, Jacinda Davis, and Kevin Fitzpatrick share their thoughts on the episode and answer listener questions.   Visit our website for episode transcripts, behind the scenes photos and more.  Follow us on social media: on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @proofcrimepod@gmail.com.    SPONSOR DEALS: Visit BetterHelp.com/proof today to get 10% off your first month.  Sign up for your trial today at Noom.com and experience Noom’s psychology and biology based approach! Go to butcherbox.com/proof and use code proof to get free ground beef for life plus $20 off your first box.    Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code PROOF.   Stop wasting money on things you don’t use. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to RocketMoney.com/proof.   Sign up for a $1 per month trial period at shopify.com/prooftruecrime.   Go to Quince.com/proof to upgrade your closet and get free shipping and 365-day returns on your order!   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Eric Greer was hit by a car and killed months after recording a video statement about Renee Ramos’ murder. Will finding out more about Eric shed light on what really happened to Renee? And a new letter from Jared Conway could help solve a murder case but still leaves any possible connection to Renee up in the air.   Visit our website for episode transcripts, behind the scenes photos and more.  Follow us on social media: on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod, @jacindaproof and @soosimp.   Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @proofcrimepod@gmail.com.  SPONSOR DEALS: Visit BetterHelp.com/proof today to get 10% off your first month. Sign up for your trial today at Noom.com and experience Noom’s psychology and biology based approach! Sign up for ButcherBox today by going to Butcherbox.com/proof and use code proof at checkout to get $30 off your first box!  Go to HelloFresh.com/proofapps for FREE appetizers for life! Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code PROOF. Stop wasting money on things you don’t use. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to RocketMoney.com/proof.   Sign up for a $1 per month trial period at shopify.com/prooftruecrime.   Go to Quince.com/proof to upgrade your closet and get free shipping and 365-day returns on your order! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In addition to answering listener questions, Susan, Jacinda, and Kevin talk about what it was like interviewing Tim Fisher, a witness they hadn’t planned on meeting so soon. And how they quickly realized they needed more information before meeting with him again. The Proof team also shares their frustrations chasing down Jared Conway leads and why they think pursuing that angle is important.   Visit our website for episode transcripts, behind the scenes photos, and more.  Follow us on social media: on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @proofcrimepod@gmail.com.  Visit BetterHelp.com/proof today to get 10% off your first month. Sign up for your trial today at Noom.com and experience Noom’s psychology and biology based approach! Sign up for ButcherBox today by going to Butcherbox.com/proof and use code proof at checkout to get $30 off your first box!     Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code PROOF.   Stop wasting money on things you don’t use. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to RocketMoney.com/proof.   Sign up for a $1 per month trial period at shopify.com/prooftruecrime.   Go to Quince.com/proof to upgrade your closet and get free shipping and 365-day returns on your order! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Susan Simpson and Jacinda Davis plunge deeper into the investigation of 18-year-old Renee Ramos’ murder. As they relentlessly pursue leads, a chance phone call during an interview puts them face to face with a potentially important witness they hadn’t anticipated meeting so soon. The Proof Team continues to unravel “alternate” theories that appear farfetched but can’t be ruled out. Visit our website for episode transcripts, behind the scenes photos and more.  Follow us on social media: on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod, @jacindaproof and @soosimp. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @proofcrimepod@gmail.com.  SPONSOR DEALS: Visit BetterHelp.com/proof today to get 10% off your first month. Sign up for your trial today at Noom.com and experience Noom’s psychology and biology based approach! Go to butcherbox.com/proof and use code proof to get free ground beef for life plus $20 off your first box.  Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code PROOF. Stop wasting money on things you don’t use. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to RocketMoney.com/proof.   Sign up for a $1 per month trial period at shopify.com/prooftruecrime. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this week’s Sidebar Susan, Jacinda and Kevin share a disheartening update on where things stand on Lee Clark’s and Joey Watkins’ compensation bills. And they discuss what it was like to interview Josh Burroughs and what it means (or doesn't mean) for Jake’s case. Visit our website for episode transcripts, behind the scenes photos and more.  Follow us on social media: on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @proofcrimepod@gmail.com.  SPONSOR DEALS: Visit BetterHelp.com/proof today to get 10% off your first month. Sign up for your trial today at Noom.com and experience Noom’s psychology and biology based approach! Sign up for ButcherBox today by going to Butcherbox.com/proof and use code proof at checkout to get $30 off your first box!    Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code PROOF.   Stop wasting money on things you don’t use. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to RocketMoney.com/proof.   Sign up for a $1 per month trial period at shopify.com/prooftruecrime. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Josh Burroughs told detectives a multitude of different stories about what happened the night 18-year-old Renee Ramos was murdered. Susan Simpson and Jacinda Davis interview Josh Burroughs to see what he remembers now. And the Proof team tries to make sense of how and why Josh Burroughs became the State’s star witness. Visit our website for episode transcripts, behind the scenes photos and more.  Follow us on social media: on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod, @jacindaproof and @soosimp. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @proofcrimepod@gmail.com.  SPONSOR DEALS: Visit BetterHelp.com/proof today to get 10% off your first month. Sign up for ButcherBox today by going to Butcherbox.com/proof and use code proof at checkout to get $30 off your first box!   Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code PROOF. Stop wasting money on things you don’t use. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to RocketMoney.com/proof.    Sign up for a $1 per month trial period at shopify.com/prooftruecrime.   Go to Quince.com/proof to upgrade your closet and get free shipping and 365-day returns on your order! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Not all witnesses want to talk, that’s expected. In this week’s Sidebar the hosts discuss the possible reasons why key witnesses decline interviews. But how, sometimes, one throwaway line in the case file can lead you to a witness who has information that could alter the entire course of investigation. Visit our website for episode transcripts, behind the scenes photos and more.  Follow us on social media: on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @proofcrimepod@gmail.com.  SPONSOR DEALS: Visit BetterHelp.com/proof today to get 10% off your first month. Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code PROOF. Sign up for ButcherBox today by going to Butcherbox.com/proof and use code proof at checkout to get $30 off your first box!    Stop wasting money on things you don’t use. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to RocketMoney.com/proof.   Sign up for a $1 per month trial period at shopify.com/prooftruecrime.   Go to Quince.com/proof to upgrade your closet and get free shipping and 365-day returns on your order! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Proof Team continues to investigate the murder of Renee Ramos and heads to the Midwest to talk to the third co-defendant in the case. They also hear from key witnesses who were overlooked during the initial investigation. And a chance encounter leads to a new line of investigation. Visit BetterHelp.com/proof today to get 10% off your first month. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Will the real Rapper’s Delight please stand up? Susan's endless hunt for the real Rapper’s Delight continues. Susan, Jacinda, and Kevin talk more about their interview with Victoria and the reasons she thinks Jake and Ty are innocent. And they also discuss their impressions of the jailhouse informant and the consequences of his testimony. Visit our website for episode transcripts, behind the scenes photos and more.  Follow us on social media: on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @proofcrimepod@gmail.com.    SPONSOR DEALS: Visit BetterHelp.com/proof today to get 10% off your first month. Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code PROOF. Stop wasting money on things you don’t use. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to RocketMoney.com/proof.   Sign up for a $1 per month trial period at shopify.com/prooftruecrime.   Go to Quince.com/proof to upgrade your closet and get free shipping and 365-day returns on your order! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Susan, Jacinda, and Kevin talk to Louis’ mom and find out why she thinks Jake Silva is innocent. And a jailhouse informant tells them more about the confession that led to Ty Lopes’ conviction.   Visit our website for episode transcripts, behind the scenes photos and more.  Follow us on social media: on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod, @jacindaproof and @soosimp. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @proofcrimepod@gmail.com.  SPONSOR DEALS: Visit BetterHelp.com/proof today to get 10% off your first month. Stop wasting money on things you don’t use. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to RocketMoney.com/proof.   Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code PROOF.   Sign up for a $1 per month trial period at shopify.com/prooftruecrime.   Go to Quince.com/proof to upgrade your closet and get free shipping and 365-day returns on your order! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The team continues their investigation into Renee Ramos' murder on the next episode of Proof. In the meantime, they've put together a short video of their interview with Fuji. You can watch that video on Proof's youtube channel, https://www.youtube.com/@proofcrimepod/videos. Fuji was the 17-year-old with a room behind his parents' house. Jake and Renee would often crash there. Hear how the investigation into Fuji continues to impact his life.   Visit our website for episode transcripts, behind the scenes photos and more.  Follow us on social media: on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @proofcrimepod@gmail.com.  SPONSOR DEALS: Visit BetterHelp.com/proof today to get 10% off your first month. Stop wasting money on things you don’t use. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to RocketMoney.com/proof. Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code PROOF. Sign up for a $1 per month trial period at shopify.com/prooftruecrime.   Go to Quince.com/proof to upgrade your closet and get free shipping and 365-day returns on your order! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On December 8, 2022, after serving 25 years in prison for a crime they did not commit, Lee Clark and Cain Joshua Storey were exonerated. Newly discovered evidence found during season one of Proof called the State’s case into question, and a Floyd County Prosecutor and Judge agreed their convictions should be overturned. Life on the outside hasn’t been easy for Lee and Josh but every day they are thankful for their freedom. Susan Simpson, Jacinda Davis, and Kevin Fitzpatrick catch-up with Lee and Josh to hear how they’re doing now – 15 months after regaining their freedom.   Visit our website for episode transcripts, behind the scenes photos and more.  Follow us on social media: on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @proofcrimepod@gmail.com.  SPONSOR DEALS: Stop wasting money on things you don’t use. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to RocketMoney.com/proof.   Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code PROOF.   Sign up for a $1 per month trial period at shopify.com/prooftruecrime.   Go to Quince.com/proof to upgrade your closet and get free shipping and 365-day returns on your order! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this week’s Sidebar the hosts of Proof dive deep into Murder at the Warehouse, Episode 8 and share their thoughts on the real Grim Crew, the Prosecutor’s strategy at trial, and the alleged Home Depot Party. You’ll also hear their takeaways from meeting Fuji, and how being the target of an investigation has impacted his life. The hosts discuss why an anonymous post from years ago about a convicted sex offender could be relevant to this case. Visit our website for episode transcripts, behind the scenes photos and more.  Follow us on social media: on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @proofcrimepod@gmail.com.  SPONSOR DEALS: Visit BetterHelp.com/proof today to get 10% off your first month. Stop wasting money on things you don’t use. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to RocketMoney.com/proof.   Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code PROOF.   Sign up for a $1 per month trial period at shopify.com/prooftruecrime.   Go to Quince.com/proof to upgrade your closet and get free shipping and 365-day returns on your order!   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Manteca, California has changed a lot since Jake Silva and Ty Lopes were arrested for Renee Ramos’ murder in 2000. But many of the people from the case files still live in town. To try to figure out what really happened to Renee, the Proof team heads to Manteca to track down as many of those people as they can. Visit our website for episode transcripts, behind the scenes photos and more.  Follow us on social media: on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @proofcrimepod@gmail.com.  SPONSOR DEALS: Visit BetterHelp.com/proof today to get 10% off your first month. Stop wasting money on things you don’t use. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to RocketMoney.com/proof.   Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code PROOF.   Sign up for a $1 per month trial period at shopify.com/prooftruecrime.   Go to Quince.com/proof to upgrade your closet and get free shipping and 365-day returns on your order! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

If Jake Silva and Ty Lopes did not murder Renee Ramos, then who did? On this week’s Sidebar Susan Simpson, Jacinda Davis, and Kevin Fitzpatrick discuss alternative theories presented in Episode 7. Theories that have never been investigated… until now.   Visit our website for episode transcripts, behind the scenes photos, and more.  Follow us on social media: on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @proofcrimepod@gmail.com.    Sponsor Deals: Visit BetterHelp.com/proof today to get 10% off your first month. Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code PROOF.   Stop wasting money on things you don’t use. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to RocketMoney.com/proof.   Shopify: Sign up for a $1 per month trial period at shopify.com/prooftruecrime.   Go to Quince.com/proof to upgrade your closet and get free shipping and 365-day returns on your order! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

After 18-year-old Renee Ramos is found murdered, detectives zero in on her boyfriend Jake Silva and his best friend’s uncle Ty Lopes. But in their determination to solve the case, other suspects may have been overlooked. Susan Simpson, Jacinda Davis, and Kevin Fitzpatrick hear about Jake’s case and start combing through the files for clues that could have been missed. Sponsor Deals: Visit BetterHelp.com/proof today to get 10% off your first month. Stop wasting money on things you don’t use. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to RocketMoney.com/proof.   Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code PROOF. Go to Quince.com/proof to upgrade your closet and get free shipping and 365-day returns on your order! Shopify - Sign up for a one-dollar-per-month trial period at shopify.com/prooftruecrime Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this week’s Sidebar the hosts of Proof share their thoughts on Ty Lopes’ murder and how it may have impacted Jake’s case. And you’ll hear more from the man who attacked Jake – what happened to him after the assault and how his life behind bars has since changed. Susan, Jacinda, and Kevin also share what to expect in upcoming episodes. Visit our website for episode transcripts, behind the scene photos and more. Follow us on social media: on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @proofcrimepod@gmail.com.    Sponsor Deals: Visit BetterHelp.com/proof today to get 10% off your first month. Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code PROOF.   Go to Quince.com/proof to upgrade your closet and get free shipping and 365-day returns on your order!   Stop wasting money on things you don’t use. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to RocketMoney.com/proof. Shopify - Sign up for a one-dollar-per-month trial period at shopify.com/prooftruecrime Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jake Silva and Ty Lopes are convicted to life behind bars for the rape and murder of 18-year-old Renee Ramos. Life in prison is hard but even harder when you have an “R” on your back. As rumors spread about Jake Silva’s and Ty Lopes’ convictions, they face new and unexpected challenges. The hosts of Proof talk to Jake Silva about life behind bars and investigate Ty Lopes’ murder. Visit our website for episode transcripts, behind the scene photos, and more. Follow us on social media: on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @proofcrimepod@gmail.com.    Sponsor Deals: Visit BetterHelp.com/proof today to get 10% off your first month.   Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code PROOF. Go to Quince.com/proof to upgrade your closet and get free shipping and 365-day returns on your order!   Stop wasting money on things you don’t use. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to RocketMoney.com/proof.   Shopify - Sign up for a one-dollar-per-month trial period at shopify.com/prooftruecrime Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Defense attorney and podcaster Bob Motta (Defense Diaries) joins Susan Simpson and Jacinda Davis to share his unique take on the evidence used to convict Jake Silva and Ty Lopes of Renee Ramos’ murder. Motta also shares insights into the Delphi murders and how John Wayne Gacy led him to podcasting.   Visit our website for episode transcripts, behind the scene photos and more.  Follow us on social media: on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @proofcrimepod@gmail.com.    Sponsor Deals: Visit BetterHelp.com/proof today to get 10% off your first month. Go to Quince.com/proof to upgrade your closet and get free shipping and 365-day returns on your order!   Stop wasting money on things you don’t use. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to RocketMoney.com/proof. Shopify - Sign up for a one-dollar-per-month trial period at shopify.com/prooftruecrime Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The evidence against Ty Lopes had been thin, but enough for a jury to convict him of killing Renee Ramos. In Jake Silva’s case the prosecution had new witnesses and evidence. But would it be enough to convince Jake Silva's jury to find him guilty too? Susan Simpson, Jacinda Davis, and Kevin Fitzpatrick examine the evidence presented at Jake’s trial. Visit our website for episode transcripts, case files, behind the scene photos and more.  Follow us on social media: on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @proofcrimepod@gmail.com.    Sponsor Deals: Go to Quince.com/proof to upgrade your closet and get free shipping and 365-day returns on your order!   Stop wasting money on things you don’t use. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to RocketMoney.com/proof. Shopify - Sign up for a one-dollar-per-month trial period at shopify.com/prooftruecrime Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The hosts of Proof share their thoughts on 14-year-old eyewitness Josh Burroughs' multiple stories and Susan provides insight into how his testimony was used at trial. After he is convicted of Renee Ramos’ rape and murder, Ty Lopes makes a passionate promise to Renee’s family. Visit our website for episode transcripts, case files, behind the scene photos and more.  Follow us on social media: on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @proofcrimepod@gmail.com.    Sponsor Deals: Visit BetterHelp.com/proof today to get 10% off your first month. Go to Quince.com/proof to upgrade your closet and get free shipping and 365-day returns on your order!   Stop wasting money on things you don’t use. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to RocketMoney.com/proof. Shopify - Sign up for a one-dollar-per-month trial period at shopify.com/prooftruecrime Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Susan Simpson, Jacinda Davis, and Kevin Fitzpatrick investigate how 33-year-old Ty Lopes becomes a suspect in the rape and murder of Renee Ramos. The hosts talk to Lopes’ family, including his daughter Mandi, to get a better understanding of his relationship with his co-defendant Jake Silva and in the process uncover new information about Lopes’ dealings with the Manteca Police Department. After his arrest, Lopes is confident forensics will clear his name and that he’ll be able to come home to his daughter. Visit our website for episode transcripts, case files, behind the scene photos and more.  Follow us on social media: on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @proofcrimepod@gmail.com.    Sponsor Deals: Visit BetterHelp.com/proof today to get 10% off your first month. Go to Quince.com/proof to upgrade your closet and get free shipping and 365-day returns on your order! Stop wasting money on things you don’t use. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to RocketMoney.com/proof. Shopify - Sign up for a one-dollar-per-month trial period at shopify.com/prooftruecrime Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Susan Simpson, Jacinda Davis, and Kevin Fitzpatrick answer listener questions and discuss how a 14-year-old witness becomes the turning point in the investigation into Renee Ramos’ murder. Bonus interrogation clips and calls with Jake Silva are also shared. Visit our website for episode transcripts, case files, behind the scene photos and more.  Follow us on social media: on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @proofcrimepod@gmail.com.    Sponsor Deals: Visit BetterHelp.com/proof today to get 10% off your first month. Go to Quince.com/proof to upgrade your closet and get free shipping and 365-day returns on your order! Stop wasting money on things you don’t use. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to RocketMoney.com/proof. Shopify - Sign up for a one-dollar-per-month trial period at shopify.com/prooftruecrime Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The investigation into Renee Ramos’ murder is about to go cold when a 14-year-old boy comes forward and gives detectives the break they’ve been hoping for. By interrogating the new witness and their two lead suspects, investigators believe they’ve solved the case and determine that a ragtag skater crew had organized the rape and murder of Jake’s Silva’s girlfriend. Susan Simpson and Jacinda Davis take a closer at the story. Visit our website for episode transcripts, case files, behind the scene photos and more.  Follow us on social media: on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @proofcrimepod@gmail.com.    Sponsor Deals: Visit BetterHelp.com/proof today to get 10% off your first month. Go to Quince.com/proof to upgrade your closet and get free shipping and 365-day returns on your order! Stop wasting money on things you don’t use. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to RocketMoney.com/proof. Shopify - Sign up for a one-dollar-per-month trial period at shopify.com/prooftruecrime Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Susan Simpson, Jacinda Davis, and Kevin Fitzpatrick dissect the first two episodes of Proof: Murder at the Warehouse and also answer listeners’ burning questions. In this week’s latest Sidebar, the hosts unveil additional audio from Jake Silva’s interrogation and play bonus clips straight from their own personal investigation in the field. Visit our website for episode transcripts, case files, behind the scene photos and more.  Follow us on social media: on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @proofcrimepod@gmail.com.    Sponsor Deals: Visit BetterHelp.com/proof today to get 10% off your first month. Go to Quince.com/proof to upgrade your closet and get free shipping and 365-day returns on your order! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

After Renee Ramos’ body is found and detectives begin to investigate her murder, they quickly learn that she had a tumultuous relationship with her boyfriend Jake Silva. Susan Simpson and Jacinda Davis talk to Jake’s and Renee’s friends to find out more about their relationship. The detective in charge of the initial investigation agrees to sit down with the Proof team. Visit our website for episode transcripts, case files, behind the scene photos and more.  Follow us on social media. On Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @proofcrimepod@gmail.com.    Sponsor Deals: To get 15% off your next gift, go to UNCOMMONGOODS.com/proof. That’s UNCOMMONGOODS.com/proof, for 15% off! Don’t miss out on this limited time offer! Uncommon Goods. We’re all out of the ordinary.  New ButcherBox members that sign up using our link will receive their choice between a whole turkey, turkey breast, or a spiral ham + $20 off when they visit butcherbox.com/proof and enter code proof at checkout.  Visit BetterHelp.com/proof today to get 10% off your first month. Go to Quince.com/proof to upgrade your closet and get free shipping and 365-day returns on your order! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The hosts of Proof - Susan Simpson, Jacinda Davis, and Kevin Fitzpatrick - discuss season two of the podcast and what to expect on this season's bonus Sidebar episodes. Sidebar is an extension of Proof where Susan, Jacinda, and Kevin talk candidly about the current season, interview guests, and answer listener questions. Sidebar is also the place to catch-up on past cases and checkin with people from previous seasons. Visit our website for episode transcripts, case files, behind the scene photos and more.  Follow us on social media. On Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @proofcrimepod@gmail.com.  SPONSOR DEALS: Sign up for ButcherBox today by going to Butcherbox.com/proof and use code proof at checkout to get $30 off your first box!  Visit BetterHelp.com/proof today to get 10% off your first month. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

When 18-year-old Renee Ramos goes missing from the Central California town of Manteca, her friends and family race to find her. Twenty-three years later, Susan Simpson and Jacinda Davis retrace her steps to find out what really happened. Visit our website for episode transcripts, case files, behind the scene photos and more.  Follow us on social media. On Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @proofcrimepod@gmail.com.  SPONSOR DEALS: To get 15% off your next gift, go to UNCOMMONGOODS.com/proof. That’s UNCOMMONGOODS.com/proof, for 15% off! Don’t miss out on this limited time offer! Uncommon Goods. We’re all out of the ordinary.  New ButcherBox members that sign up using our link will receive their choice between a whole turkey, turkey breast, or a spiral ham + $20 off when they visit butcherbox.com/proof and enter code proof at checkout.  Visit BetterHelp.com/proof today to get 10% off your first month. Go to HelloFresh.com/proofapps for FREE appetizers for life! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The second season of PROOF: Murder at the Warehouse takes Susan Simpson and Jacinda Davis to Manteca, CA where they reinvestigate the murder of 18-year-old Renee Ramos. On June 5, 2000, Ramos’ body was found buried under a pile of debris inside the shell of a new Home Depot building. Despite tips hinting at alternate suspects - tips that were ignored until now - Renee’s boyfriend, 18-year-old skateboarder Jake Silva, and Ty Lopes, the 33-year-old uncle of one of Jake's close friends were arrested for her murder. The questionable testimony of a 14-year-old boy was the key evidence used to convict them both to life in prison. Ty Lopes was killed in prison in 2011. Twenty-three years after Renee Ramos was murdered, Jake Silva remains in prison and maintains he is innocent. In season two of PROOF: MURDER AT THE WAREHOUSE, Susan and Jacinda travel the streets of Manteca, reinvestigating the case against Jake and Ty – and in the process uncover long-overlooked evidence about what really happened to Renee. Visit our website for episode transcripts, case files, behind the scene photos and more.  Follow us on social media. On Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @proofcrimepod@gmail.com.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The second season of PROOF: Murder at the Warehouse takes Susan Simpson and Jacinda Davis to Manteca, CA where they reinvestigate the murder of 18-year-old Renee Ramos. On June 5, 2000, Ramos’ body was found buried under a pile of debris inside the shell of a new Home Depot building. Despite tips hinting at alternate suspects - tips that were ignored until now - Renee’s boyfriend, 18-year-old skateboarder Jake Silva, and Ty Lopes, the 33-year-old uncle of one of Jake's close friends were arrested for her murder. The questionable testimony of a 14-year-old boy was the key evidence used to convict them both to life in prison. Ty Lopes was killed in prison in 2011. Twenty-three years after Renee Ramos was murdered, Jake Silva remains in prison and maintains he is innocent. In season two of PROOF: MURDER AT THE WAREHOUSE, Susan and Jacinda travel the streets of Manteca, reinvestigating the case against Jake and Ty – and in the process uncover long-overlooked evidence about what really happened to Renee. Visit our website for episode transcripts, case files, behind the scene photos and more.  Follow us on social media. On Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @proofcrimepod@gmail.com.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The second season of PROOF: Murder at the Warehouse takes Susan Simpson and Jacinda Davis to Manteca, CA where they reinvestigate the murder of 18-year-old Renee Ramos. On June 5, 2000, Ramos’ body was found buried under a pile of debris inside the shell of a new Home Depot building. Despite tips hinting at alternate suspects - tips that were ignored until now - Renee’s boyfriend, 18-year-old skateboarder Jake Silva, and Ty Lopes, the 33-year-old uncle of one of Jake's close friends were arrested for her murder. The questionable testimony of a 14-year-old boy was the key evidence used to convict them both to life in prison. Ty Lopes was killed in prison in 2011. Twenty-three years after Renee Ramos was murdered, Jake Silva remains in prison and maintains he is innocent. In season two of PROOF: MURDER AT THE WAREHOUSE, Susan and Jacinda travel the streets of Manteca, reinvestigating the case against Jake and Ty – and in the process uncover long-overlooked evidence about what really happened to Renee. Visit our website for episode transcripts, case files, behind the scene photos and more.  Follow us on social media. On Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @proofcrimepod@gmail.com.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On December 8th, 2022, Darrell Lee Clark and Cain Joshua Storey were exonerated and released from prison. As a result of the new evidence discovered during Season 1 of Proof, the Floyd County DA’s Office agreed to dismiss their convictions. In this final episode of Season 1, the Proof team was there in Rome, GA to see both men walk free. Georgia is one of 12 states that does not currently have a statutory compensation law, which would provide financial relief for people who have lost years of their lives to wrongful convictions. Josh’s attorney Luke Martin has set up a GoFundMe for Josh. You can donate at https://gofund.me/4d57c566 The Georgia Innocence Project has set up a fundraiser for Lee. You can donate at https://mtyc.co/pfzhxf Go to https://BetterHelp.com/proof and save 10% off your first month. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

When they were 17 years old, Lee Clark and Joshua Cain Storey were wrongfully convicted of murdering Brian Bowling. On Thursday, December 8, 2022 they were exonerated of that murder conviction and walked out of jail as free men. Full update episode with new interviews from Lee and Josh will release on Monday, December 19th. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Adnan Syed is out, and Lee Clark’s future is hanging in the balance. Exclusive Proof conversation between Adnan’s advocates Susan Simpson and Rabia Chaudry as he waits for new DNA results. Meanwhile, Lee’s attorneys at the Georgia Innocence Project file motions for a new trial. “Proof: A True Crime Podcast” is a serialized investigation into a tragic case of potential wrongful conviction. Hosted by Susan Simpson of the “Undisclosed” Podcast and Jacinda Davis of TV’s “Evil Lives Here” and “Two Shallow Graves,” Proof unravels the tangled and competing demands of the legal system, police practices, truth, guilt and innocence. Visit our website for episode transcripts, case files, behind the scenes photos, and more.  On Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @proofcrimepod@gmail.com.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Susan, Jacinda, Kevin, and Dan the cameraman discuss the ups and downs of the case... with outtakes, updates, and what’s next for Proof. “Proof: A True Crime Podcast” is a serialized investigation into a tragic case of potential wrongful conviction. Hosted by Susan Simpson of the “Undisclosed” Podcast and Jacinda Davis of TV’s “Evil Lives Here” and “Two Shallow Graves,” Proof unravels the tangled and competing demands of the legal system, police practices, truth, guilt and innocence. Visit our website for episode transcripts, case files, behind the scenes photos, and more.  On Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @proofcrimepod@gmail.com.  Know someone who would like Proof? Share the show.Share this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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After listening to the podcast, Brian’s sister and uncle reach out to Lee’s dad. And, Jacinda receives an unexpected email from Sgt. Dallas Battle’s son. “Proof: A True Crime Podcast” is a serialized investigation into a tragic case of potential wrongful conviction. Hosted by Susan Simpson of the “Undisclosed” Podcast and Jacinda Davis of TV’s “Evil Lives Here” and “Two Shallow Graves,” Proof unravels the tangled and competing demands of the legal system, police practices, truth, guilt and innocence. Visit our website for episode transcripts, case files, behind the scenes photos, and more.  On Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @proofcrimepod@gmail.com.  Know someone who would like Proof? Share the show.Share this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Susan and Jacinda try to figure out why there was no autopsy done in this case. Then Susan receives an unexpected call. “Proof: A True Crime Podcast” is a serialized investigation into a tragic case of potential wrongful conviction. Hosted by Susan Simpson of the “Undisclosed” Podcast and Jacinda Davis of TV’s “Evil Lives Here” and “Two Shallow Graves,” Proof unravels the tangled and competing demands of the legal system, police practices, truth, guilt and innocence. Visit our website for episode transcripts, case files, behind the scenes photos, and more.  On Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @proofcrimepod@gmail.com.  Know someone who would like Proof? Share the show.Share this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Susan and Jacinda finally find the crucial witness and, along with an interpreter, take him back to the scene. What he has to say leaves them stunned. “Proof: A True Crime Podcast” is a serialized investigation into a tragic case of potential wrongful conviction. Hosted by Susan Simpson of the “Undisclosed” Podcast and Jacinda Davis of TV’s “Evil Lives Here” and “Killer in Question,” Proof unravels the tangled and competing demands of the legal system, police practices, truth, guilt and innocence. Visit our website for episode transcripts, case files, behind the scenes photos, and more.  On Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @proofcrimepod@gmail.com.  Know someone who would like Proof? Share the show.Share this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Angela Bruce testified that at her party Cain and Lee boasted about killing Brian. What do the other partygoers say and why were they not called to testify?  And… 25 years later, Susan and Jacinda talk to Angela herself.  “Proof: A True Crime Podcast” is a serialized investigation into a tragic case of potential wrongful conviction. Hosted by Susan Simpson of the “Undisclosed” Podcast and Jacinda Davis of TV’s “Evil Lives Here” and “Killer in Question,” Proof unravels the tangled and competing demands of the legal system, police practices, truth, guilt and innocence. Visit our website for episode transcripts, case files, behind the scenes photos, and more.  On Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @proofcrimepod@gmail.com.  Know someone who would like Proof? Share the show.Share this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Susan Simpson and Jacinda Davis unravel the origins of the alleged Free Birds gang and talk to a key witness who never got to testify.  “Proof: A True Crime Podcast” is a serialized investigation into a tragic case of potential wrongful conviction. Hosted by Susan Simpson of the “Undisclosed” Podcast and Jacinda Davis of TV’s “Evil Lives Here” and “Killer in Question,” Proof unravels the tangled and competing demands of the legal system, police practices, truth, guilt and innocence. Visit our website for episode transcripts, case files, behind the scenes photos, and more.  On Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @proofcrimepod@gmail.com.  Know someone who would like Proof? Share the show.Share this episode. This Episode was sponsored by: Babbel US, Billion Dollar Brows, Cerebral and BetterHelp. Visit BetterHelp.com/proof today to get 10% off your first month. Babbel - Learn a new language through quick lessons, live online classes, podcasts & more. Right now, save up to 60% off your subscription when you go to https://www.babbel.com/proof for up to 60% off your subscription. Billion Dollar Beauty Join the refill revolution and build your own billion dollar box at https://billiondollarbeauty.com and receive 20% off your entire purchase when you enter the code PROOF at checkout. Cerebral - Online depression, anxiety, insomnia treatment and medication delivered to you. Visit the Cerebral website at https://cerebral.com/proof and get 65% off your first month of treatment. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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The jury hears the details of the “Gang Rule Book” and Lee’s alibi. Cain Storey takes the stand. But was that the right decision?  “Proof: A True Crime Podcast” is a serialized investigation into a tragic case of potential wrongful conviction. Hosted by Susan Simpson of the “Undisclosed” Podcast and Jacinda Davis of TV’s “Evil Lives Here” and “Killer in Question,” Proof unravels the tangled and competing demands of the legal system, police practices, truth, guilt and innocence. Visit our website for episode transcripts, case files, behind the scene photos and more.  Follow us on social media. On Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @proofcrimepod@gmail.com.  Know someone who would like Proof? Share the show.Share this episode. This Episode was sponsored by: Hello Fresh and BetterHelp.  Visit BetterHelp.com/proof today to get 10% off your first month. Go to hellofresh.com/proof16 and use code “proof16” for up to 16 free meals and three free gifts.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Dallas Battle swore that Charlie Childers saw Lee Clark at the house that night. But Charlie is deaf, and understanding what he saw that night is not so cut and dried. Susan and Jacinda search for Charlie and try to unravel the truth.  “Proof: A True Crime Podcast” is a serialized investigation into a tragic case of potential wrongful conviction. Hosted by Susan Simpson of the “Undisclosed” Podcast and Jacinda Davis of TV’s “Evil Lives Here” and “Killer in Question,” Proof unravels the tangled and competing demands of the legal system, police practices, truth, guilt and innocence. Visit our website for episode transcripts, case files, behind the scene photos and more.  Follow us on social media. On Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @proofcrimepod@gmail.com.  Know someone who would like Proof? Share the show.Share this episode. This Episode was sponsored by: Billion Dollar Beauty and Cerebral. Billion Dollar Beauty Join the refill revolution and build your own billion dollar box at https://billiondollarbeauty.com and receive 20% off your entire purchase when you enter the code PROOF at checkout. Cerebral - Online depression, anxiety, insomnia treatment and medication delivered to you. Visit the website and use code PROOF for 65% off your first month of treatment.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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A law unto himself, Sgt. Dallas Battle pressures 17-year-old Cain Storey to confess. Proof: A True Crime Podcast is a serialized investigation into a tragic case of potential wrongful conviction. Hosted by Susan Simpson of the Undisclosed Podcast and Jacinda Davis of TV’s Evil Lives Here and Killer in Question,Proof unravels the tangled and competing demands of the legal system, police practices, truth,guilt and innocence. Visit our website for episode transcripts, case files, behind the scene photos and more.  Follow us on social media. On Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @proofcrimepod@gmail.com.  Know someone who would like Proof? Share the show.Share this episode. This Episode was sponsored by: Cerebral, Apostrophe and BetterHelp. Visit BetterHelp.com/proof today to get 10% off your first month. Cerebral - Online depression, anxiety, insomnia treatment and medication delivered to you. Visit the website and use code PROOF for 65% off your first month of treatment.  Visit Apostrophe - your online dermatologist - and use code PROOF to get your dermatologist-crafted treatment plan for $5.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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The coroner decides not to autopsy Brian Bowling leaving many questions about the shot that killed him. Finding the answers could tell us who pulled the trigger.  Proof: A True Crime Podcast is a serialized investigation into a tragic case of potential wrongful conviction. Hosted by Susan Simpson of the Undisclosed Podcast and Jacinda Davis of TV’s Evil Lives Here and Killer in Question,Proof unravels the tangled and competing demands of the legal system, police practices, truth, guilt and innocence. Visit our website for episode transcripts, case files, behind the scene photos and more.  Follow us on social media. On Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @proofcrimepod@gmail.com.  Know someone who would like Proof? Share the show.Share this episode. This Episode was sponsored by: Apostrophe and BetterHelp. Visit BetterHelp.com/proof today to get 10% off your first month. Visit Apostrophe - your online dermatologist - and use code PROOF to get your dermatologist-crafted treatment plan for $5.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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The gun, the bullets, and the pillow. Susan Simpson and Jacinda Davis investigate the chain of custody and discover several missing links.  Proof: A True Crime Podcast is a serialized investigation into a tragic case of potential wrongful conviction. Hosted by Susan Simpson of the Undisclosed Podcast and Jacinda Davis of TV’s Evil Lives Here and Killer in Question,Proof unravels the tangled and competing demands of the legal system, police practices, truth,guilt and innocence. Visit our website for episode transcripts, case files, behind the scene photos and more.  Follow us on social media. On Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @proofcrimepod@gmail.com.  Know someone who would like Proof? Share the show.Share this episode. This Episode was sponsored by: Babbel US, Apostrophe, Cerebral and BetterHelp. Visit BetterHelp.com/proof today to get 10% off your first month. Visit the Babbel website and get 65% off your subscription, and start learning a new language.  Visit Apostrophe - your online dermatologist - and use code PROOF to get your dermatologist-crafted treatment plan for $5.  Cerebral - Online depression, anxiety, insomnia treatment and medication delivered to you. Visit the website and use code PROOF for 65% off your first month of treatment.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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After months of trying, we finally connect with Cain and begin to hear his side of the story. “Proof: A True Crime Podcast” is a serialized investigation into a tragic case of potential wrongful conviction. Hosted by Susan Simpson of the “Undisclosed” Podcast and Jacinda Davis of TV’s “Evil Lives Here” and “Killer in Question,” Proof unravels the tangled and competing demands of the legal system, police practices, truth, guilt and innocence. Visit BetterHelp.com/proof today to get 10% off your first month. Visit our website for episode transcripts, case files, behind the scene photos and more.  Follow us on social media. On Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @proofcrimepod@gmail.com.  Know someone who would like Proof? Share the show.Share this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Months after Brian Bowling’s death, witnesses emerge implicating Lee Clark. Proof: A True Crime Podcast is a serialized investigation into a tragic case of potential wrongful conviction. Hosted by Susan Simpson of the Undisclosed Podcast and Jacinda Davis of TV’s Evil Lives Here and Killer in Question,Proof unravels the tangled and competing demands of the legal system, police practices, truth,guilt and innocence. Visit BetterHelp.com/proof today to get 10% off your first month. Visit our website for episode transcripts, case files, behind the scene photos and more.  Follow us on social media. On Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @proofcrimepod@gmail.com.  Know someone who would like Proof? Share the show.Share this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Looking for proof that Brian Bowling’s death is gang-related, Floyd County detectives exhume his body. And what they find is not good news for Cain Storey and Lee Clark Proof: A True Crime Podcast is a serialized investigation into a tragic case of potential wrongful conviction. Hosted by Susan Simpson of the Undisclosed Podcast and Jacinda Davis of TV’s Evil Lives Here and Evil Lives Here: Shadows of Death, Proof unravels the tangled and competing demands of the legal system, police practices, truth,guilt and innocence.  Visit our website for episode transcripts, case files, behind the scene photos and more.  Follow us on social media. On Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @proofcrimepod@gmail.com.  Know someone who would like Proof? Share the show.Share this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Brian, Cain, and Lee had all been friends but the shooting on October 18, 1996 left one dead and two in prison for life. Why would these two teenagers have conspired to murder their friend? And why did the community think they were capable of such a crime?  Proof: A True Crime Podcast is a serialized investigation into a tragic case of potential wrongful conviction. Hosted by Susan Simpson of the Undisclosed Podcast and Jacinda Davis of TV’s Evil Lives Here and Killer in QuestionProof unravels the tangled and competing demands of the legal system, police practices, truth,guilt and innocence. Visit BetterHelp.com/proof today to get 10% off your first month. Visit our website for episode transcripts, case files, behind the scene photos and more, at proofcrimepod.com.  Follow us on social media. On Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @proofcrimepod@gmail.com.  Know someone who would like Proof? Share the show. Share this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In the first episode of Proof: Russian Roulette, Susan Simpson and Jacinda Davis talk with Brian Bowling’s aunt, uncle, his sister and her husband. They tell us what they believe happened that horrible night in October 1996 when Brian was fatally shot. Proof: A True Crime Podcast is a serialized investigation into a tragic case of potential wrongful conviction. Hosted by Susan Simpson of the Undisclosed Podcast and Jacinda Davis of TV’s Evil Lives Here and Shattered, Proof unravels the tangled and competing demands of the legal system, police practices, truth, guilt and innocence. Visit our website for episode transcripts, case files, behind the scene photos and more.  Follow us on social media. On Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @proofcrimepod@gmail.com.  Know someone who would like Proof? Share the show.Share this episode. SPONSOR DEALS: Sign up for ButcherBox today by going to Butcherbox.com/proof and use code proof at checkout to get $30 off your first box!  Visit BetterHelp.com/proof today to get 10% off your first month. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A new investigative true crime podcast from Susan Simpson of Undisclosed and the producers of Evil Live Here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices