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Yonit Levi of Israel's Channel 12 News and Jonathan Freedland of The Guardian are two of the most prominent journalists in the world today. They are also Jews. Each week, join what MSNBC's Rachel Maddow calls "two great, smart smart smart hosts" as they dissect and debate current events shaping Israel, Jewish life - and the wider world.
Their blend of nuanced discussion and sparkling conversation, featuring a dazzling range of guests, is why New Yorker editor David Remnick calls himself a “proud, avid listener," why Ira Glass says he "completely enjoys this show" and why Malcolm Gladwell calls it an "incredibly fun podcast".
For a weekly fix of globally informed talk – including nominations for the greatest act of chutzpah and outstanding mensch of the previous seven days – there’s only one destination. Make every Friday morning Unholy.
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- 256 - You're Hired - with Alyssa Farah Griffin and Amos Harel
As Donald Trump appoints key figures for his incoming administration, Yonit and Jonathan speak with Alyssa Farah Griffin about the likely impact of his choices on Israel and the Middle East. Military affairs analyst Amos Harel joins to update us on the latest situation in Gaza. Plus: a look at the rising anti-Israel riots in Amsterdam. And for those who insisted – yes, there’s a follow-up on Radiohead and their connection to Israel.
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Thu, 14 Nov 2024 - 255 - You're Fired
***This episode was recorded before the assault against Israeli soccer fans in Amsterdam***
Donald Trump is on his way back to the White House, having dispatched Kamala Harris, while Israel’s Defense Minister Yoav Gallant is sacked in Tel Aviv—a week of seismic shifts on both sides of the Atlantic. Yonit and Jonathan take a deep dive into the implications of both dramatic developments - as well as the ongoing investigations into the Israeli Prime Minister’s Office. Plus: a mensch award for the man who took to - then left - the stage, quite literally.
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Fri, 08 Nov 2024 - 254 - The Ultra Election - with Rachel Maddow
Just four days out from the U.S. election, we turn to one of the most influential voices in liberal America, Rachel Maddow. Yonit and Jonathan discuss her new book, "Prequel: An American Fight against Fascism", and what shadows the past casts on today’s America. Meanwhile, the Middle East raises new, urgent questions for the President-elect: Will Iran retaliate after Israel’s recent strike? Could Israel and Hezbollah reach a truce—or even Israel and Hamas? And—a few writers who receive a thumbs down review this week.
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Fri, 01 Nov 2024 - 253 - US special: The Great Jewish Debate - with Dan Senor and Jeremy Bash
With less than a week to go till America decides, who will the country’s Jews be backing - Kamala Harris or Donald Trump? And who deserves their support most? For this special episode, Yonit and Jonathan bring together two seasoned foreign policy players - longtime Republican and podcaster Dan Senor and veteran Democrat and analyst Jeremy Bash to thrash out which of the two presidential candidates would be best for those US Jews increasingly anxious about the future of Israel and the rise in antisemitism.
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Tue, 29 Oct 2024 - 252 - The History Man - with Sir Simon Schama
As the war rages on despite the death of Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar, the world watches with mounting concern for Northern Gaza - and waits for Israel's response to Iran's missile attack earlier this month. Plus: ahead of the Hebrew anniversary of October 7, 2023, we turn to a man uniquely able to put the events of the last year in their historical context - Sir Simon Schama.
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Wed, 23 Oct 2024 - 251 - Special Update: Sinwar dead - with Shimrit Meir
Will the death of Yahya Sinwar prove a turning point in Israel's war with Hamas? Could it even mark the beginning of the end of the conflict that started just over a year ago? In this special update episode, Yonit and Jonathan speak with Shimrit Meir, onetime adviser to former Israeli prime minister Naftali Bennett and a leading expert on the man who was the architect of October 7.
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Thu, 17 Oct 2024 - 250 - Giant - with Sir Nicholas Hytner
As the Jewish world welcomes in the festival of Sukkot, we’re taking a step back from the headlines to bring you a special treat—a captivating interview with a legend of the theatre, Sir Nicholas Hytner. He talks about his latest sell-out production, Giant, which thanks to events in the Middle East has become unexpectedly timely.
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Tue, 15 Oct 2024 - 249 - Another Year - A Conversation with Jon and Rachel Goldberg-Polin
Israel reaches the one-year mark since October 7th, 2023, and looks ahead to what the coming year, months, weeks, and days may bring. With the most solemn day of the Jewish calendar upon us, we pause to reflect on the depths of grief and resilience through the eyes of two individuals who have faced an indescribable tragedy: Jon and Rachel Goldberg-Polin.
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Fri, 11 Oct 2024 - 247 - Days of Awe - with Rabbi Angela Buchdahl
As the Jewish year draws to a close, it mirrors its beginning—with Israel under attack. At the start of what is no ordinary Rosh Hashanah, Yonit and Jonathan discuss Iran’s firing of nearly 200 ballistic missiles at Israel and reflect on the 12 months that have passed since the horror of October 7. Plus two conversations that might just lift the spirits – one with Rabbi Angela Buchdahl, the other with a fellow New Yorker who made a life-changing decision on the eve of October 7.
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Wed, 02 Oct 2024 - 246 - Special Update: Nasrallah Dead - With Shimrit Meir
Breaking news out of the Middle East: Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah has been killed in Beirut. We’re joined by Shimrit Meir, a top expert on Nasrallah and the Arab world, and former senior diplomatic advisor to Naftali Bennett, to give her expert analysis on this major development.
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Sat, 28 Sep 2024 - 245 - Fight or Flight - with Amit Segal
As the conflict in the north against Hezbollah intensifies, and as Israel’s prime minister touches down in New York, we turn to Amit Segal, Channel 12’s lead political analyst, for a deep dive inside the mind of Benjamin Netanyahu. Plus: a theatrical mensch and a dose of presidential chutzpah.
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Thu, 26 Sep 2024 - 244 - Shock and Awe - with Ilana Dayan
Israel and Hezbollah edge closer to all-out conflict than at any moment since October 7th, following a stunning display of intelligence and technical ingenuity that targeted thousands of Hezbollah operatives in Lebanon with simultaneous pager blasts. We’ll take a deep dive into the details - and reflect on the year that was with legendary Israeli journalist Ilana Dayan. Plus, an exclusive interview with a British journalist who’s been making waves this week—let’s just say, you may have heard him before on Unholy.
This episode was re-edited on Friday 4 at PM.
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Thu, 19 Sep 2024 - 243 - Tunnel Vision - with Amos Harel
As we approach the first anniversary of the 7th of October and the following war, we take stock with Israel’s leading military analyst, Amos Harel, offering in-depth insights into the ongoing situation. Plus: a hint of the supernatural in this week’s chutzpah and a superhero mensch.
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Fri, 13 Sep 2024 - 242 - The Great Debate - First Analysis
After Kamala Harris and Donald Trump faced off in their first presidential debate, Yonit and Jonathan gather to dissect the pivotal moments — from Viktor Orbán to Taylor Swift, the war in Gaza to Ukraine, plus some unforgettable lines and very telling body language.
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Wed, 11 Sep 2024 - 241 - Heartbroken
In what may be the darkest week since October 7th, Israelis and Jews worldwide were left reeling by the tragic news of the execution by Hamas of six young Israeli hostages, none more than 40, after nearly a year in captivity. As protests sweep through Israel, demanding an immediate hostage deal, the way forward remains painfully unclear and progress ever more elusive as Benjamin Netanyahu insists on a new red line that cannot be crossed. In this episode, Yonit and Jonathan talk of grief and uncertainty - and look for consolation amidst the anguish.
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Thu, 05 Sep 2024 - 240 - Conversations with Rachel Goldberg-Polin and Ayelet Levy Shachar
Israel’s war on three fronts intensifies, with a preemptive strike on Hezbollah in the north, escalated operations in the West Bank, and a rescue operation of an Israeli hostage from the tunnels in Gaza. As headlines focus once again on the chances of a hostage deal, we felt it essential to re-air the deeply moving stories of two mothers caught in this harrowing reality. In their interviews on Unholy, Ayelet Levy Shachar and Rachel Goldberg-Polin share what it means to fight relentlessly for the return of their children from captivity.
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Thu, 29 Aug 2024 - 239 - More Q’s than A’s - Part 2
This week, we’re stepping away from the immediate headlines to do something a little different. Instead of our usual deep dive into the news of the hour, we’re dedicating this episode to you—our listeners. Your questions have been piling up in our inbox, and it’s finally time to tackle them. From the personal to the political, and everything in between, we’re here to explore the topics that matter most to you.
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Thu, 22 Aug 2024 - 238 - More Q’s than A’s - Part 1
As the high-stakes summit in Doha is framed as the final chance to secure a hostage release, tensions over a possible response from Iran and Hezbollah are mounting. This week, alongside our deep dive into those unfolding events, we’re putting our listeners in the spotlight, addressing the pressing questions you’ve sent in. From global conflicts to personal perspectives, we’re tackling the issues that matter most to you.
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Thu, 15 Aug 2024 - 237 - Now We Wait - with Suzanne Maloney
After a week in which Israelis held their breath, waiting for a potentially lethal response from both Hezbollah and Tehran to last week's assassinations, Yonit and Jonathan talk to Suzanne Maloney, one of America's foremost analysts of Iran: how do the country's leaders see their confrontation with Israel playing out now and in the future? Plus, as the war in Gaza enters its 11th month, the wait for a hostage release grows ever more desperate; how the Jewish factor might have played a role in Kamala Harris's choice of running mate - and riots in the UK stir thousand year old memories.
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Fri, 09 Aug 2024 - 236 - 300 - with Matti Friedman
Israel braces itself for what feels like an inevitable, lethal response from Iran and its proxies, following not one but two assassinations – one of them in Tehran itself. Meanwhile, Israelis are shaken by a moment some describe as the country’s January 6. Yonit and Jonathan discuss it all with author and journalist Matti Friedman, one of the sharpest observers of Israeli society and history. Plus: a chutzpah award for the Americans weighing into the Veepstakes with an effort to block one potential running mate for Kamala Harris in particular.
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Fri, 02 Aug 2024 - 235 - The Long Good Biden - with Amos Harel and Special Co-Host David Remnick
This week- New Yorker editor David Remnick partners up with Yonit as guest co-host.
They discuss President Biden's decision to drop out of the race, Democrats’ newfound affection for Vice President Harris, and Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu's speech in front of Congress. Plus - a conversation with Haaretz military analyst Amos Harel, on what’s next in the war in Gaza and why the hostage negotiations have yet to produce a deal.
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Fri, 26 Jul 2024 - 234 - Trumps All - with Alyssa Farah Griffin, Ayelet Levy Shachar and Special Co-Host Bianna Golodryga
This week - CNN’s Bianna Golodryga joins Yonit as guest co-host.
In the US - mere days after shots were fired towards him in a failed assassination attempt, former President Donald Trump took the stage at the Republican National Convention - and introduced a running mate. Former Trump administration official now turned critic of the 45th president, Alyssa Farah Griffin, weighs in on J.D. Vance and on Trump’s potential new inner circle – and on why she feels politically “homeless”.
Meanwhile, in Israel, mounting pressure on Netanyahu, ahead of his speech to Congress, as a hostage deal appears yet again within reach. Yonit and Bianna speak to Ayelet Levy Shachar, mother of kidnapped soldier Naama Levy, about the decision to publish harrowing images of her daughter in captivity - and her nine months-long fight to bring Naama home.
*This episode was recorded before the drone attack in Tel Aviv early Friday morning.
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Fri, 19 Jul 2024 - 233 - Special Update - Attempted Killings, Worlds Apart
Two attempted killings, 14 hours - and a world - apart. In this emergency episode, Yonit and Jonathan discuss the implications of both the assassination attempt on Donald Trump at a rally in Pennsylvania and the Israeli air strike on Gaza aimed at killing Mohammed Deif, one of the masterminds behind October 7. With uncertainty still swirling about both events, what could be their lasting impact?
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Sun, 14 Jul 2024 - 232 - Joe vs. The Volcano - with Ezra Klein
As Democrats weigh up what to do about Joe Biden, Yonit and Jonathan talk to New York Times columnist and podcaster Ezra Klein, who back in February became the most prominent US journalist to argue that Biden was too old to seek re-election. They discuss what Democrats should do now, as well as Klein’s recent reporting from Israel: how do liberal Jewish Americans like him now see the country – and themselves? Plus: the latest on the UK’s new government, Israel’s current government and France’s struggle to form a government. Plus: a bumper crop of mensch and chutzpah award nominees.
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Fri, 12 Jul 2024 - 231 - Dial E For Elections - with Ruth Elkrief
They’ve voted in Britain, are about to vote in France and come November they’ll be voting in America - even if they’re not exactly sure who’s going to be on the ballot. Yonit and Jonathan break down the unfolding situations in both the UK and US and talk to one of France’s best known TV journalists, Ruth Elkrief about the dilemma Sunday’s vote poses for French Jews - and why she herself ‘came out’ as a Jew after October 7.
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Fri, 05 Jul 2024 - 230 - Divided Israel, Divided America - with Van Jones
With the Supreme Court delivering a landmark ruling that could spell the end of Benjamin Netanyahu's coalition, new polling shows who might take his place. Plus, as a leading Israel critic loses an election in New York, and Jews at a Los Angeles synagogue come under attack from Gaza protesters, Yonit and Jonathan talk to Van Jones - CNN commentator, former Obama official and one of Black America's leading voices. They discuss rising antisemitism, the rift between Jews and the progressive left and the future of the Black-Jewish relationship. Plus a mensch award from the north of Israel, and chutzpah nominees that stretch from the pinnacle of the US media to the English south coast.
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Fri, 28 Jun 2024 - 229 - Bibi's House of Cards - with Rivka Ravitz
As rifts widen within Israel’s ruling coalition - and between Benjamin Netanyahu and both the White House and his own military, Yonit and Jonathan discuss whether the current government can hold together till the crucial deadline of July 28. And they talk to Rivka Ravitz, former chief of staff to an Israeli president and one of the ultra-orthodox community’s leading voices about the Haredi exemption from military service - and why the rest of Israel should accept it. Plus: an especially deserving pair of chutzpah and mensch award winners.
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Fri, 21 Jun 2024 - 228 - Big Fires Everywhere - with Amos Harel
The week began with a daring hostage rescue operation that brought four Israeli captives home, but the relief did not last long. Hezbollah rocket fire from the north is growing ever more intense, while Israel’s war cabinet saw the long-awaited exit of Benny Gantz and Gadi Eisenkot – and all while Benjamin Netanyahu and the Supreme Court remain on a collision course over the ultra-orthodox exemption from military service. Yonit and Jonathan break it all down with award-winning Haaretz military analyst Amos Harel. Plus: far right gains in Europe, street protests turn nasty in New York – and Hollywood stumbles over its founding Jewish fathers.
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Fri, 14 Jun 2024 - 227 - No Quiet On The Northern Front - with “Nas Daily”
With the war in Gaza now eight months old, fears turn to the possibility of an all-out confrontation in the north - against a Hezbollah force far mightier than Hamas. Plus: Yonit and Jonathan talk to the man behind Nas Daily, the YouTuber with an audience of 70 million - on why he now defines himself not as a Palestinian-Israeli but an Israeli-Palestinian. And a conversation on how the literary world is increasingly shutting the door on Israel - and anyone connected to it. All that, plus a repeat winner of our chutzpah award - and a hearteningly crowded field in the mensch category.
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Fri, 07 Jun 2024 - 226 - Israel GPS - with Fareed Zakaria
In a week that saw international fury over an air strike on Rafah that led to the deaths of dozens of civilians - and which came just days after an order from The Hague for Israel to halt its operations in the city - Yonit and Jonathan talk to one of America’s foremost analysts of geopolitics and CNN host: Fareed Zakaria. How might this war end? Is Israel’s isolation becoming permanent? And what difference would a returned President Trump make? Plus: a new poll dismays opponents of Benjamin Netanyahu - and a conversation with veteran Australian newspaperman Michael Gawenda on his improbable Jewish journey.
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Fri, 31 May 2024 - 225 - Wanted - with Yuval Shany
With the International Criminal Court considering arrest warrants declaring Benjamin Netanyahu and Yoav Gallant wanted on charges of war crimes and crimes against humanity, Yonit and Jonathan talk to one of Israel’s foremost scholars of international law, Yuval Shany. Plus: heartbreaking new footage from October 7 adds to the pressure on the Israeli government to agree a ceasefire deal that would bring the hostages back home, why elections in Israel seem as distant as ever - and the mysterious death of a president.
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Fri, 24 May 2024 - 224 - Strange Days Indeed
There’s a lot for Yonit and Jonathan to unpack this week, following two especially intense ceremonial days in Israel. They discuss a split-screen Independence Day, a pointed Memorial Day address - and the prime minister who was nowhere to be seen. Plus: what exactly is Benny Gantz doing in Benjamin Netanyahu’s government- and a highly charged week in the information war. And there’s a bumper crop of awards nominees: a singer, a comedian and a guitarist with an unlikely day job.
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Fri, 17 May 2024 - 223 - Up In Arms - with Michael Milshtein
As Joe Biden withholds a crucial arms shipment, Yonit and Jonathan discuss a new low in Israel’s relationship with its most important ally. They talk to Israel’s foremost Hamas watcher, Dr. Michael Milshtein, about Rafah, the ceasefire that never was and who - if anyone - will be able to claim victory when the fighting finally stops. Plus: Eurovision - and a chutzpah award winner who really needs to read more.
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Fri, 10 May 2024 - 222 - College Break - with Hadley Freeman, Noa Fay & Maya Ilany
In a week when the Gaza conflict seemed to be relocated to the lawns of America’s Ivy League campuses, Yonit and Jonathan talk to Columbia student Noa Fay and to Maya Ilany of Harvard - followed by a conversation with award-winning columnist Hadley Freeman about her new essay on October 7 and the left. Plus: an update on renewed efforts to broker a ceasefire deal and hostage release, and the perennial indecision of Benjamin Netanyahu.
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Fri, 03 May 2024 - 221 - Rewind: Scott Galloway vs. the World
During the Passover break, another chance to hear one of our most forceful conversations - one that, in many ways, has only become more timely. Yonit and Jonathan talk to the entrepreneur, scholar and podcaster Professor Scott Galloway about the war that is waged not through bombs and rockets, but in the media, online - and especially on campus.
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Fri, 26 Apr 2024 - 220 - The 11th Plague - with Fania Oz-Salzberger & Ahmed Fouad Alkhatib
In an episode recorded before Israel’s reported targeting of Iranian sites in the early hours of Friday morning, Yonit and Jonathan discuss the ongoing fallout from Iran’s attack on Israel six days earlier — assessing the arguments and dilemmas that have gripped Israel’s policymakers. Plus: a conversation about the future for Israelis and Palestinians when the current war in Gaza is finally over, with Israeli scholar and thinker Fania Oz-Salzberger and Palestinian writer and analyst Ahmed Fouad Alkhatib. And, of course, some thoughts for the seder table as Pesach, or Passover, approaches
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Fri, 19 Apr 2024 - 219 - Urgent Update: Iran Attacks
Yonit and Jonathan talk through an unprecedented night in which Iran launched a direct attack on Israeli territory for the first time - and in which a series of Arab nations joined the US, UK, France and Israel itself in protecting the country from a sustained Iranian drone and missile attack. How will - and how should - Benjamin Netanyahu respond? Is there a way to retaliate without triggering a wider regional war? And what are the implications for both Israel's battle against Hamas and its place in the Middle East?
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Sun, 14 Apr 2024 - 218 - This Jewish Life: A Conversation with Ira Glass & Etgar Keret
Israeli writer and satirist Etgar Keret and US broadcasting legend Ira Glass have been friends for two decades - but October 7 put that friendship under strain. They found themselves seeing the same events differently. Like Yonit and Jonathan, one was inside, the other outside. The four of them talk about that, about grief, friendship - and much else. Plus an update on the looming threat from Iran and the state of the war in Gaza — and there are some choice nominees for the chutzpah and mensch awards
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Fri, 12 Apr 2024 - 217 - The Six Month War - With Amos Harel, Angela Buchdahl and Bianna Golodryga
The war that began on October 7 is six months old: to mark the occasion, a special episode with three unique voices. Yonit and Jonathan hear from Israel's pre-eminent military analyst, Amos Harel, on the state of the conflict in Gaza - what's happened, what might come next and the prospects for a wider clash with Iran and Hizbullah. They speak with Rabbi Angela Buchdal of New York about how October 7 shook the Jewish diaspora, and how Judaism might serve as a consolation in these dark days. And they hear from CNN's BIanna Golodryga about the hostages taken that day and the challenge of keeping global attention on their increasingly desperate fate. Plus: some award winners - and an unexpected moment of song.
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Fri, 05 Apr 2024 - 216 - V For Veto
In a week when the US withheld its protective veto at the UN Security Council, leaving Israel isolated, Yonit and Jonathan discuss the deteriorating state of the US-Israel relationship - and what logic might be steering Benjamin Netanyahu to risk such a rupture with Washington. Plus: the looming battle over the ultra-orthodox and military service, and a farewell to two pioneers - one a groundbreaking economist, the other the Jewish vice president who never was.
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Fri, 29 Mar 2024 - 215 - Special Bond - with David Axelrod & Mike Murphy
Two legends of American politics – the hosts of Hacks on Tap, David Axelrod and Mike Murphy - join Yonit and Jonathan for a podcast double date as they talk about the Biden-Netanyahu rift over arms and aid, why Chuck Schumer might have accidentally helped rather than hurt the Israeli prime minister – and how Donald Trump could be the beneficiary. Plus: Purim, a landmark court decision and why 007 might soon be a Jewish number.
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Fri, 22 Mar 2024 - 214 - In The Zone - with Danny Cohen & Rachel Cockerell
In an exclusive interview, Zone of Interest executive producer Danny Cohen tells Yonit and Jonathan why he believes the film’s director Jonathan Glazer got his Oscars speech so badly wrong. Plus: an update on the war, aid and the widening rift between Joe Biden and Benjamin Netanyahu - and a conversation with Rachel Cockerell, author of an acclaimed new book about a long forgotten alternative Zion, deep in the heart of Texas.
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Fri, 15 Mar 2024 - 213 - Succession: A Conversation With Yossi Cohen
Yossi Cohen is the former head of the Mossad, a former national security adviser to Benjamin Netanyahu - and often talked about as a future prime minister of Israel. In a rare interview in English, he tells Yonit and Jonathan how he sees the intelligence failures that led to 7 October, his thoughts on the nature of responsibility and on the case for a Palestinian state - and how he is contemplating an entry into politics. Plus: the denialism that surrounds Hamas and sexual violence - and ceasefire talks as the clock ticks down to Ramadan.
Some listeners may find some descriptions of the violence of 7 October distressing.
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Fri, 08 Mar 2024 - 212 - March To Nowhere - with David Baddiel
Five months after 7 October, and with talk of an imminent hostage deal receding thanks to deadly events on the ground in Gaza, Yonit and Jonathan take stock of what the war has done to life in Israel - and to Jews in the diaspora. They’re joined by writer and comedian David Baddiel as his landmark book, Jews Don’t Count, is published in Hebrew and ask if the attitudes he laid bare when the book was first published have changed - or only hardened.
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Fri, 01 Mar 2024 - 211 - Rewind: War Therapy
Not a brand new episode this week - instead, another chance to hear one of the most impactful episodes we’ve ever aired. Back in November, as tensions emerged between Israeli and diaspora views of the war, Yonit and Jonathan had a frank, heartfelt conversation about they saw things, one month after 7 October.
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Fri, 23 Feb 2024 - 210 - The Day After Tomorrow - with Samer Sinijlawi & Michael Milshtein
It's become rare to hear Israelis and Palestinians in conversation with each other during these last, painful months. Yonit and Jonathan bring together Israeli former intelligence analyst Dr Michael Milshtein and the Palestinian activist and commentator Samer Sinijlawi for a candid discussion of what happens to Gaza and Israel 'the day after' - and ask if that day is ever coming. Plus: Benjamin Netanyahu resists pressure from inside and out to agree a hostage deal - while his son Yair picks up a coveted award.
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Fri, 16 Feb 2024 - 209 - Ask Us Anything
As talks aimed at a release of hostages and a pause in fighting grind on, Yonit and Jonathan look at what both Israel and Hamas stand to gain - and lose - from any deal. And they take a fresh round of listener questions that have come in from all over the world - on Gaza the day after, new leadership in Israel and how Jews and Israelis who disagree can keep talking. Plus: Australian chutzpah and a French mensch.
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Fri, 09 Feb 2024 - 208 - New Wave of Terror - with Former Israeli PM Ehud Barak
As Israel faces a new wave of terror attacks, Yonit and Jonathan are joined by Ehud Barak, former Israeli Prime Minister.
He shares his insights: what can be done to break the cycle of violence, and why he is still optimistic about peace even though the signs point in the opposite direction.
We discuss Israel's moral ambiguity on Ukraine, and what Barak Thinks should be the global plan to prevent a nuclear Iran.
And for the mensch award of the week we go to the Oscars but make a surprising pick…
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Fri, 01 Apr 2022 - 207 - A Special Place in Hell
Yonit and Jonathan discuss Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy's speech to the Israeli parliament: he thought lawmakers weren't doing enough, they thought he said too much.
Why the whole world should be concerned about the influence ISIS has on one terrorist in Be'er Sheva, and is this week's deadly attack a precursor to a new Intifada.
In the mensch category we'll say goodbye to a venerated diplomat and trailblazer; our chutzpah nominee goes to someone who's won it so often we might name the award in his honor.
And the most ancient Hebrew tablet excavated doesn’t include too many nice words…
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Fri, 25 Mar 2022 - 206 - Safe Haven - with Oliver Bullough
Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett stepping up his mediation efforts between Russia and Ukraine; the Biden Administration intensifying its crackdown on Oligarchs; and the internal debate in Israel rages on the issue of accepting Ukrainian refugees.
Yonit and Jonathan are joined by journalist and author Oliver Bullough, an expert on financial crime, to discuss Russian Oligarchs in Israel.
We have a double mensch award and an attempt-- even under the shadow of a war in Europe – to celebrate Purim
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Fri, 18 Mar 2022 - 205 - "We Have to Win This War" - with Anne Applebaum
As the war in Ukraine intensifies, Yonit and Jonathan are joined by Pulitzer Prize winning author Anne Applebaum to discuss Zelenskyy, Putin, Bennett and the high stakes everyone is playing for.
In this episode we also give a nod to Israel and Turkey's old-new bromance; we go to great depths to give a mensch award; and a chutzpah award you probably weren't expecting…
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Fri, 11 Mar 2022 - 204 - Special Guest Scott Galloway
Yonit and Jonathan are joined by Professor Scott Galloway, marketing guru and bestselling author, to talk Ukraine and Russia, U.S. and Israel, angry young men and big tech.
And, as Jonathan braves a covid diagnosis, our chutzpah and mensch nominees this week are inevitably tied to Ukraine.
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Fri, 04 Mar 2022 - 203 - Clash of a Titan
Following the Russian onslaught in Ukraine- Yonit and Jonathan talk about the price of intervention and the price of non intervention, What is left of the new world order, Russian oligarchs around the world and Israel's tightrope act becoming increasingly challenging.
And how all this affects the nuclear talks still taking place in Vienna, with the U.S. and Russia on the same side.
On the lighter side- Chutzpah award from the newspaper business and one of our co-hosts has a birthday…
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Fri, 25 Feb 2022 - 202 - The View from the New Yorker - with David Remnick
For the latest edition of Unholy, Yonit and Jonathan are joined by one of America's most admired journalists, David Remnick. The editor of the New Yorker draws on a long career, including a spell in Moscow reporting on the last days of the Soviet Union, to reflect on everything from possible war in Ukraine to the state of Israeli society, from the threat of Donald Trump to Remnick's own Jewish identity...and the joys of conversation with Leonard Cohen.
There's also a chutzpah award for a convicted conman, and a mensch nomination for a woman whose public persona is seemingly superficial but, who in reality, is completely different.--
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Fri, 18 Feb 2022 - 201 - The Man at the Center of the Storm: An Interview with the CEO of NSO
In an exclusive interview, Yonit and Jonathan question Shalev Hulio, the CEO of the NSO Group, the Israeli company that has become one of the most controversial in the world. NSO sells spyware to governments across the globe for use, it says, against criminals and terrorists. But media organisations and human rights groups say Pegasus hacking software has been deployed against dissidents, journalists and activists. Hulio answers those allegations, tells us what explains the US government blacklisting of his company and sets out his view that the failure of the NSO could open the door to a more dangerous world.
For this week's chutzpah award, Yonit pursues a culinary theme - nominating the US Congresswoman who confused soup with stormtroopers. While Jonathan's choice for mensch stays much closer to home.
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Fri, 11 Feb 2022 - 200 - Unhealthy: Whoopi Goldberg, Amnesty and a Jewdle Showdown
Despite suffering from Covid and with the help of chicken soup, Yonit throws herself into spirited discussion with Jonathan about Whoopi Goldberg's inflammatory remarks on the Holocaust, and Amnesty International's labelling of Israel as an apartheid state.
They also talk about how Israel's largest circulation newspaper has switched its support from Benjamin Netanyahu to Naftali Bennett.
And for the mensch award Jonathan nominates (and inflicts) his new word-based obsession upon Yonit. While her chutzpah award goes to a leading Israeli politican who has been campaigning for the poor from his luxury hotel in Switzerland.
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Fri, 04 Feb 2022 - 199 - Partygate, Putin, and Snow in Jerusalem
As Yonit enjoys the novelty of a heavy snowfall (by Middle Eastern standards) in Jerusalem, Jonathan is captivated by the political drama in London with scandal and cake simultaneously ambushing Prime Minister Boris Johnson.
They also contemplate how Israel is walking a diplomatic tightrope in trying not to offend either the US or Russia as the danger of war looms in Ukraine. Also on Holocaust Memorial Day, Yonit and Jonathan reflect on the memory and meaning of the Shoah for Jews and non-Jews.
And finally, our chutzpah and mensch awards range from America's highest court to the supermarket checkout.
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Fri, 28 Jan 2022 - 198 - The Deal of the Century
In this edition Yonit and Jonathan consider the 'deal of the century', in the light of the negotiations underway between former Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and the legal authorities in Israel for him to avoid a trial in exchange for lesser charges and being excluded from public office. They ask what it could mean for him, his party and the politics as a whole in israel.
And in the week following the hostage crisis at a synagogue in Texas, Yonit and Jonathan assess the impact of yet another attack on a Jewish institution in the US. They speak to a leading Los Angeles Rabbi, Sharon Brous, about the implications of rising anti-Semitism for American Jews and the sense of vulnerabilty despite the community's apparent success.
And finally for chutzpah and mensch, we get a fallen star of Hollywood and a super-Rabbi.
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Fri, 21 Jan 2022 - 197 - Jews Do Count - with David Baddiel
David Baddiel, the British writer, comedian, commentator, and author of the acclaimed polemic ‘Jews Don’t Count’ joins Yonit and Jonathan to talk about who gets to play Jewish figures on stage and screen, along with the complexities of identity amid discussions of antisemitism, Israel, and progressive politics.
For chutzpah of the week Jonathan sounds a discordant note (that’s a hint!), and to mark Unholy’s first ‘podiversary’ Yonit brings Jonathan a special gift.
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Fri, 14 Jan 2022 - 196 - A Year Gone Bananas
The Hebrew word of the year marks a good way to start 2022.
Yonit and Jonathan discuss how Israel is losing its place as the trailblazer on COVID, allowing a more flexible policy on testing and policy of living alongside the pandemic.
Benny Gantz is ruffling political feathers meeting with Arab leaders, including Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas, cementing his position as an alternative to Bennett and Netanyahu.
Also, we talk about the appearance of the Jew-goblins of Harry Potter, courtesy of Jon Stewart.
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Fri, 07 Jan 2022 - 195 - Oy Vey 2022
On the cusp of the new year, Yonit and Jonathan talk about what they dread and what they look forward to in 2022. As optimistic as we are, expect more of the former than the latter. Wishing us all a happier, healthier 2022.
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Fri, 31 Dec 2021 - 194 - A Very Jewish Christmas
Outside Israel, the world is preparing for the festive holiday period. In Israel, meanwhile, this is just another work week. Yonit and Jonathan catch up to discuss what Christmas is like for jews around the world. We also discuss the fallout of Donald Trump's comments on the Jewish community we aired last week.
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Fri, 24 Dec 2021 - 193 - Trump, Bibi and Some of My Best Friends Are Jews - with Barak Ravid
Yonit and Jonathan are joined by Israeli journalist Barak Ravid following his explosive interview with former President Donald Trump, including never before heard excerpts: What Trump thinks of the Jewish community, Sheldon Adelson and the New York Times?
Speaking of U.S. Presidents – we pick one for mensch nominee of the weekAnd what film did Jonathan embarrassingly admit to never seeing?
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Fri, 17 Dec 2021 - 192 - Trump Blasts Bibi, People Love Dead Jews - with Dara Horn
New quotes from Donald Trump shed a new and disturbing light on the relationship between the Former US President and Former Israeli PM. This week Yonit and Jonathan are joined by Dara Horn, acclaimed author of "People Love Dead Jews", the thought provoking book about the double standard when treating Jews and Jewish history.
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Fri, 10 Dec 2021 - 191 - Can’t Buy Me Life in Tel Aviv
No one living in Tel Aviv was surprised it was crowned the most expensive city in the world; Yonit and Jonathan return to the topic of the high cost of living in Israel compared to the rest of the Western world.
Anti-Vaxxers' campaign evoking insulting comparisons to the Holocaust even in Israel,
A new BDS initiative in Canada aimed at kosher food.
And we don't let you down -- the mensch award this week just has to be connected to the Beatles.
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Fri, 03 Dec 2021 - 190 - Hanukkah, Vaccines for kids, Return of the Bibi Trial
As we light our first candle, we deeply fry some Israel/Diaspora Hanukkah traditions. Yonit and Jonathan also talk about the lively discussion following Israel's project to vaccinate its children, and the new plot twist in the never ending Netanyahu trial.
And how did Yonit end up in the Back to the Future Delorean? Happy Hanukkah everyone!
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Fri, 26 Nov 2021 - 189 - "Why is Israel So Expensive?" - with Guy Rolnik
As the new Israeli coalition passes its budget, Yonit and Jonathan are joined by Guy Rolnik, Founder of TheMarker, Israel's leading business publication and Professor at University of Chicago Booth School of Business. We ask how Israel has become one of the most expensive places to buy a house (or go to a restaurant?), why does it continue to attract so many foreign investments, and why isn't the economy on top of the political agenda for Israelis?
Also - Yonit shares some interesting finds from her moving house experience, and Jonathan gives us a sneak peek at his upcoming book.
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Fri, 19 Nov 2021 - 188 - A Conversation with Yuval Noah Harari
We are delighted to have Prof. Yuval Noah Harari as our special guest this week. Right before he leaves for a two month meditation retreat, Yuval gets together with Yonit and Jonathan for a conversation on pandemics, climate change, corporations vs. governments, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, trans rights and shares some interesting Bar Mitzvah experiences.
Yuval's new book Sapiens: A graphic history is available now.
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Fri, 12 Nov 2021 - 187 - Israel's Life in Plastic and France's Far-Right Jewish Populist
Israeli PM Bennett left quite an impression at COP26. In reality, Israel is nowhere near the environmental targets set, and the Israelis aren't doing much to get there.Yonit and Jonathan also discuss the alarming rise of the far right populist newcomer in France, who, unfortunately, can play the 'I'm Jewish' card.
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Fri, 05 Nov 2021 - 186 - It's Not Easy Being Green - with Ben Rhodes
As world leaders come to Glasgow for COP26, the UN Climate Change Conference, Yonit and Jonathan talk to former Obama Advisor Ben Rhodes. We discuss the dynamics behind the scenes and what the US and the world are missing as we tackle this challenge.
In Israel, PM Bennett's coalition is starting to show some cracks, only 4 months in and ahead of a crucial budget vote. Finally, Yonit reclaims her spot at the nominating committee of Mensch of the week
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Fri, 29 Oct 2021 - 185 - Israel's Dr. Fauci and Sally Rooney - with Sharon Alroy-Preis
Yonit and Jonathan are back together after meeting up in London! This week, we have an in depth conversation with the woman who leads the Israeli efforts to fight COVID, Dr. Sharon Alroy-Preis, Head of Public Health Services at Israel's Ministry of Health. She shares how she makes decisions as a worldwide leader in vaccinations and booster shots, and her concerns of a fifth wave. Finally, we discuss why it's only the normal people who suffer from the Sally Rooney boycott scandal
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Fri, 22 Oct 2021 - 184 - The Mossad, Sarah Silverman and Saving a Synagogue - with Ronen Bergman
Israeli PM Naftali Bennett reveals the Mossad's latest attempt to unearth information in a mystery that has haunted Israel for 35 years. We are joined by New York Times journalist Ronen Bergman to discuss the frustrating and futile search for missing Israeli Airman Ron Arad. In Hollywood – actress and comedian Sarah Silverman ignites a debate about the casting of non- Jewish actors in Jewish roles – Yonit and Jonathan discuss the provocative term "Jew-face". Also, the heartwarming story of how London's Jews came together to save a synagogue, And a chutzpah award worthy of a king.
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Fri, 08 Oct 2021 - 183 - Shalom, Farewell, auf Wiedersehen, Goodbye
The high holidays are behind us and the news is back to some routine.
Israeli PM Naftali Bennett spoke to the United Nations General Assembly in New York and with the US Jewish community: Jacob Kornbluh of The Forward was in the room and is joining us to share his insights.
As Angela Merkel bids farewell, Yonit and Jonathan discuss the 'charged' emotions older and younger Jews in Israel and around the world have towards Germany.
And... Jonathan realizes it's easier to choose a Chutzpah nominee than to fill your car with gas (or petrol).
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Fri, 01 Oct 2021 - 182 - Unholy Sukkah - with Kara SwisherFri, 24 Sep 2021
- 181 - Yom Kippur Fast Episode
Yonit and Jonathan catch up right before Yom Kippur with some tips for fasting and book recommendations. They also share experiences from their interviews with Israeli PM Naftali Bennett and Hillary Clinton
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Wed, 15 Sep 2021 - 180 - Rosh Hashanah, Prison Break, 9/11
We recover from Rosh Hashanah with the crazy Israeli prison break story. Six high risk Palestinian security prisoners escaped and left Israeli authorities puzzled. Yonit and Jonathan also look back at the effect of 9/11 on Jews and Israelis, and devise an alternative plot of The White Lotus starring... The Netanyahu Family.
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We'll see you next week on Wednesday for a special 'Pre-Fast' episode for Yom Kippur.
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Fri, 10 Sep 2021 - 179 - Jewish New Year Special featuring Gal Gadot and Sacha Baron Cohen
Yonit and Jonathan are back with a second season of UNHOLY, just in time for Rosh Hashanah. Sacha Baron Cohen and Gal Gadot choose their "Mensch of the Year", we ask how are President Biden and Israel PM Bennett doing regarding Afghanistan, Iran, COVID and... each other. And we finally learn Jonathan's not-so-secret nickname.
Shana Tova everyone!
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Fri, 03 Sep 2021 - 178 - TV Made in Israel - with Richard Plepler
From In Treatment to Fauda, Homelandto Shtisel - Israeli TV is now a global bingeing phenomenon.
Yonit and Jonathan are joined by Former Chairman and CEO of HBO, Richard Plepler, to talk about how Israeli stories have broken new ground with viewers around the world.
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Thu, 01 Jul 2021 - 177 - Old Problems, New Leaders
COVID is hitting back in Israel and Iran is presenting a new challenge to new PM Bennett and new-ish President Biden.
In the US, progressive events are starting to shun Israeli participants.
Finally, Yonit and Jonathan grade Quentin Tarantino's Hebrew.
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Fri, 25 Jun 2021 - 176 - Bibi, Inside and Out
While the newly formed Bennett-Lapid government is taking its first steps, Yonit and Jonathan discuss the one who is stepping down. What did Benjamin Netanyahu's 12 consecutive years in power mean for Israelis and for Jews outside of Israel?
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Fri, 18 Jun 2021 - 175 - In With the New - with Jake Tapper
As a new political reality takes form in Israel, we try and estimate what a Netanyahu-Bennett handover would look like, and what are the challenges of this unusual coalition.
Yonit and Jonathan are joined by CNN's Jake Tapper for a conversation about politics, Judaism, his new book and his semester at Tel Aviv University.
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Fri, 11 Jun 2021 - 174 - Ch Ch Ch Changes
Yonit and Jonathan explain the forces behind the historic coalition formed in Israel, and the forces that might stop it.
What does the new President-elect Herzog mean for world jews? And no need to Google our Chutzpah nominee for this weekSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Fri, 04 Jun 2021 - 173 - Back to Normal? - with Bianna Golodryga
Even though a ceasefire is maintained between Israel and Hamas, tensions are still high, especially around the world. Yonit and Jonathan are joined from New York by CNN's Bianna Golodryga, who called out antisemitic remarks by the Pakistani Foreign Minister - to present her with her mensch award!
We also update on the looming threat of fifth elections, give some context on the who the next Israeli President will be, with a surprising Unholy cameo from one of the candidates.
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Fri, 28 May 2021 - 172 - A Tale of Two Wars
The war between Israel and Gaza is generating new hardships for jews in Israel and around the world. Yonit and Jonathan discuss how this escalation is different than those who came before it, and how influencers Gigi and Bella Hadid are dominating the global narrative against Israel.
Finally - some vintage Freedland, celebrating the 50th anniversary of "You don't have to be Jewish", the monumental BBC Radio programme by Jonathan's late father, who hosted all the who's and jews of the time. ** Click here to join the virtual event
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Fri, 21 May 2021 - 171 - A Land on Fire
Yonit and Jonathan get together at the end of a tumultuous week in Israel, which started with tensions in Jerusalem, and ended in an all-encompassing war: hundreds of rockets landing across Israel, destructive attacks on Gaza and riots by lynching mobs throughout the country.
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Fri, 14 May 2021 - 170 - Israeli Math
Yair Lapid and Naftali Bennett are busy crafting a coalition that defies all rules of math, on their way to topple incumbent PM Netanyahu. The disaster at Mount Meron unearths big questions regarding the Israeli establishment's dealings with the Haredi community.
In Chutzpah and Mensch, Yonit and Jonathan discuss the latest UK-France standoff, and offer some TV bingeing recommendations.
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Fri, 07 May 2021 - 169 - The Thrill is Gone
Israeli PM Netanyahu is showing signs of losing his magic, when a failed attempt at appointing his loyalist as Justice Minister ended up getting his rivals closer together.
Yonit and Jonathan also discuss the latest report accusing Israel of apartheid. In France, a new ruling raises old concerns by the Jewish community. And we pay homage to the first Israeli transgender soccer referee.
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Fri, 30 Apr 2021 - 168 - The West Wink
Welcome to our Bar Mitzvah episode!
Netanyahu's rivals have outsmarted the Prime Minister on a crucial vote and were caught winking behind his back. Is he on the brink of losing power? Yonit and Jonathan discuss.
In the US, TV personality Tucker Carlson is creating a new concerning discourse in the right. And some big names on our Chutzpah and Mensch awards list.
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Thu, 22 Apr 2021 - 167 - 73 and Me
Israel is celebrating its 73rd year of independence and Yonit and Jonathan are back behind the mic! In politics, Netanyahu has the mandate from the president, but not a coalition or a government, as the deadlock remains. The covert war in Iran is out of the shadows and part of the political game for Israel's security heads. A farewell to Bernie Madoff and a Freedland-Levi faceoff on Duolingo with their latest language addition: Yiddish!
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Thu, 15 Apr 2021 - 166 - Special Edition: Israeli Election Results
Israel wakes up to a new political reality: PM Netanyahu can't form a government without reaching out to an Arab leader, and a new Kingmaker emerges, along with the likely possibility of a fifth election. Yonit and Jonathan are here with a Special Edition of UNHOLY and a detailed debrief of (another) crazy Israeli election night. Yes, we are also getting ready for Passover Seder!
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Wed, 24 Mar 2021 - 165 - Israeli Elections - with David Axelrod
The Elections in Israel are approaching the final furlong, and Yonit is sharing some trade secrets with Jonathan on what to look out for come Election night. Above all, we are delighted to be joined by special guest, David Axelrod, talking to us on Biden, Obama, Netanyahu and what it means to be a jew in the US.
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Fri, 19 Mar 2021 - 164 - Kings and Kingmakers
Will Prince Harry and Meghan Markle change what younger Brits think of their monarchs, and the almost-eternal British Bar Mitzvah and Jewish wedding playlist?
In the Kingdom of Israel, Naftali Bennett arises as the new potential Kingmaker, or perhaps... political tradition may still prevail (we mean fifth elections, of course).
For Chutzpah and Mensch awards, Yonit and Jonathan discover a new English word.
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Fri, 12 Mar 2021 - 163 - An Unorthodox Week
The Israeli high court decision to recognize reform and conservative conversions raises the eternal question "who is a jew?". Corbyn is out, but antisemitism is still very much alive in the UK. Plus, Israeli actress Shira Haas (Unorthodox) is giving Yonit and Jonathan a few good reasons to be proud this week.
Oh, and Jonathan's new book "To Kill a Man" is out now!
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Fri, 05 Mar 2021 - 162 - Purim, Vaccine Diplomacy and the 'Non-campaign Campaign'
Israel is gifting vaccines to diplomatic allies, raising eyebrows internally and around the world. Netanyahu's opponents are still MIA in the run up to the elections. Plus, Yonit and Jonathan celebrate Purim with a 'dress up' competition of their favorit...
Fri, 26 Feb 2021 - 161 - Three Jews on the News - with Jeffrey Goldberg
This week we are 'Three Jews on the news'! Yonit and Jonathan are joined from DC by Jeffrey Goldberg, Editor in chief of The Atlantic. Levi-Goldberg-Freedland talk about the unspoken messages in the Biden-Netanyahu belated call, Biden's first 30 days in ...
Fri, 19 Feb 2021 - 160 - Call Me Maybe
Is there anything more Jewish than saying "You never call"? Yonit and Jonathan discuss the awkward tweet begging President Biden to call Israel's Prime Minister and dissect who's who in the Netanyahu trial, which started again this week. Also - a bump in...
Fri, 12 Feb 2021 - 159 - Bibi's Gambit
Prime Minister Netanyahu has managed, yet again, to architect the Israeli political map in his favor, ahead of the March 2021 elections. But COVID can still change the whole picture. Yonit and Jonathan analyze the political forces to the left and the rig...
Fri, 05 Feb 2021 - 158 - Hard Labour
The Israeli left is shrinking: only 13% of Israeli jews identify as leftists. This is quite the challenge for the newly voted Chairwoman of the Labour Party, Merav Michaeli. Yonit and Jonathan also discuss the handling of coronavirus by Israel and the UK...
Fri, 29 Jan 2021 - 157 - Joe and the Jews
US President Joe Biden begins his term with more jews in top positions than any of his predecessors. Not sure that is enough to satisfy an Israeli audience that is still on a Trump sugar high. Amid the vaccination and infection records in Israel, The ult...
Fri, 22 Jan 2021 - 156 - Vaccine-nation
While The US is in political turmoil over the Trump impeachment, Israel is on track to vaccinate all of its adult population against COVID-19. Coincidentally, the vaccine rollout plan perfectly matches the electoral needs of Israeli Prime Minister B...
Fri, 15 Jan 2021
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