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Paula George – or Georgie as she’s commonly known – has a story that will blow you away.

She has lived the most remarkable life – with the most inspiring mindset – and she’s our favourite type of guest, a humble legend. Georgie is a very private person – and her story, till now, has largely gone untold.

Her life started on the back foot in Wales. Georgie wasn’t just the only person of colour in her village, but also her family. She was abandoned by her mother, forced into foster care and experienced a childhood filled of prejudice and hurt.

But she found safety in sport, where she became a star.

She played netball and rugby for Wales, then switched to England and became the first black captain of the England Red Roses.

She was one of the first professional women’s rugby players and eventually went to six World Cups in two sports.

She then became the digital content creator for the All Blacks, married a Kiwi and became a Kiwi, had twins, and a cancer diagnosis.

Five years ago she was given four to six months, with survival chances at 25% - but Georgie’s still here.

And now, she’s doing incredible work with the Tania Dalton Foundation where she helps Kiwi kids build their own resilience and happiness.

And most recently she’s become a part owner of The Northern Kahu: the first all-women owned franchise in New Zealand.

Georgie doesn’t seek the limelight, she had a taste of fame during her rugby days and hated it. It took a lot for her to share her full story with us and we’re so grateful she did – it’s a story that will help, inspire and entertain.

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Steve and Seamus discuss all the best feedback from their blockbuster interview with Matthew Ridge, they reveal who the special friends will be at their live gig in Auckland, the best bits from their live Q and A with Emma Twigg and how they reconnected with Zion Armstrong.

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As some of you will know – this year we created a second podcast channel called Business in Between.

It’s a channel that documents our journey as business owners – and where we also host long-form interviews with NZ’s most interesting business leaders. And we’re sharing one of our favourite interviews on the Business in Between channel – with you here on Between Two Beers.

It’s the story of how a Kiwi entrepreneur turned an idea for a fitness goal setting app into a global business with customers in over 150 countries and revenue exceeding $80 million a year.

His name is Adam Al-Agez and his app is called The Conqueror.

Adam started his fitness goal setting app in 2012 after 10 years of being an entrepreneur with limited success.

The idea was relatively simple…instead of ‘just’ going for a run, walk, a ride or swim, you’re working towards a virtual fitness goal, immersed in community and with a tangible race medal delivered on completion.

But after six years and hundreds of thousands of dollars, the app was floundering.

All the signs were pointing to giving up all together and he even started getting his CV together and applying for jobs.

Then in a bizarre series of events, in 2019 he ended up hiring a marketing wiz who lived in Romania, to run the digital marketing.

Raul the Romanian immediately started growing sales and from an annual revenue of under $100k they grew to $2m in the first year.

The next year they did $40m and $75m in the following two, having secured licensing agreements with the Lord of the Rings, Game of Thrones, Star Wars and Harry Potter

The business has now expanded globally with around 70 staff in 6 countries with customers in over 150 countries.

Adam’s story – and the growth of his company – is insane and the story will blow your mind - and it’s the first time it’s been told.

Come for the storytelling and stay for Adam’s brilliant business lessons at the end.

This is an ep not to be missed.

If you enjoy this pod – please go and follow and subscribe to our Business in Between channel, where there are plenty more like this.

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Matthew Ridge is a Kiwi sporting legend.

He was one of NZ’s top rugby union players then made a stunning switch to rugby league as a 21-year-old in 1990. Over the next decade he played 122 times for the Manly Sea Eagles, 25 times for the Kiwis and 37 times for the Warriors before he became a part-owner of the club.

After retiring from league, he became one of New Zealand’s most popular and successful TV stars – before enjoying success in the business world.

In this episode we talk about his bromance with Marc Ellis and how they created TV magic, 90s rugby league, Warriors regrets, the taxi incident which shaped his outlook on life as a teenager, mental resilience, relationship breakdowns and the realities of being NZ’s biggest star for a decade.

Matthew was an open book in this one and we also talked at length about his relationship with drugs – and his reflections on many of the most difficult chapters of his life.

It was a gripping chat, full of incredible insights into one hell of a life.

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Steve and Seamus get excited for their fifth birthday celebration in Auckland, discuss all the best and worst small talk with former guests at the recent Auckland FC game, reflect on recent episodes with Andrew Mehrtens, Cassie Roma and Jackie Van Beek and reveal next week's guest.

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Jackie van Beek is one of New Zealand’s funniest and most creative minds.

She has written, directed and starred in The Breaker Upperers, Nude Tuesday and The Educators and featured in everything from Funny Girls and What We Do in The Shadows, to Golden Boy – and most recently the Australian re-make of The Office – where she is one of the two creators.

In this episode we talk about growing up with Taika Waititi and Jemaine Clement, how she got engaged to comedian Jesse Griffin after knowing him for a month, how she chose her merkin, the art of improvisation, falling into film making, directing TV, The Office Australia and partying with Leonardo di Caprio.

Jackie is an absolute legend of NZ’s creative space and this was such a fun chat. We loved her company and outlook on life and there were a ton of laughs across this one.

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Andrew Mehrtens is a legend of NZ Rugby and the second highest All Blacks point scorer of all time.

He’s also widely regarded as one of the most intelligent All Blacks and Sir Wayne Smith described him to us as a ‘genius’ on and off the field, who understood the game better than he did.

Universally known as Mehrts, in this episode we talk about what he’s been doing with his life abroad for the last 20 years, his new-born twins and his fluent French, his best “Suzie” and Jonah Lomu stories from 1995, reflections on the recent loss of his father, the Crusaders and pulling the fingers in South Africa, punditry, family, and all the best yarns in between.

Mehrts is a childhood hero of ours and the perfect guest; this was an epic chat, he’s got the stories, but he’s also got the depth and humour and we had a ton of laughs through this one.

We're also super stoked to have Mehrts on the books of B2B Speakers, so if you like what you hear in this episode, and would love him to share his story at your function or event, flick us a message by going to B2Bspeakers.co.nz.

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Seamus and Steve take listeners behind the scenes of Bree Tomasel's book launch on K-Road, discuss their upcoming episode with All Blacks joker Andrew Mehrtens, we hear about Steve's four-day bender in Sydney, reflect on Seamus' 30 kg weight loss, and we tease their live event with Jason Gunn coming up in November.

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Bree Tomasel is one of New Zealand’s most popular and loved broadcasters.

She’s the hilarious, fun-loving co-host of ZM’s Bree and Clint Drive Show, she’s the host of Celebrity Treasure Island on TVNZ, she has 1.5 million followers across her social media channels and in 2022 was named New Zealand TV Personality of the Year.

She’s also just released her book and in it we discover a different side of Bree, she writes about some of the most difficult and challenging chapters of her life, and in this episode she talks about it all publicly for the first time.

Steve messaged Bree halfway through reading her book to say how captivating and powerful it was – and how many people it’s going to help. And I've got no doubt you'll see it too by the end of this one.

We hear about the home invasion at her nan’s place when she was nine, where she thought she was going to die – and how it contributed to anxiety and panic attacks throughout her life, we talk about her challenges revealing her sexuality to her dad – and why she kept it a secret for 10 years, her big life regrets and journey of discovery with ADHD as an adult and where her sense of social justice comes from.

We also talk about how she built her huge following on social media, all the best stories from her relationship with her mum Di, Channing Tatum, radio-wars, and we read through some of Seamus’ DMs he sent Bree seven years ago!

It's a really cool chat, It’s Bree sharing her story, warts and all. I also highly recommend her book Unapologetically Me which is out now.

We're also stoked to tell you about the business we've built. If you'd like to get one of our epic guests in to MC or Speak at your function or event, flick us a message by going to b2bspeakers.co.nz.

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Murray Thom is one of New Zealand’s most successful and creative entrepreneurs.

He’s the man behind some of our most iconic and successful productions, including The Great New Zealand Songbook, The Great New Zealand Cookbook, The Offering, and Piano by Candlelight.

On the international front, two of his productions – Miracle Babies and the Together 10 CD Collection – have both featured on The Oprah Winfrey Show.

In this episode we talk about why he left school at 15 and how he became the Managing Director of CBS Records at 23. How he won a government tender for the Personalised Plates business in 1987, which at its peak had a turnover of $30 million and staff of 60, how he brought together Celine Dion and Anne Geddes, how he manifested becoming a world champion sailor, his best business hacks and all the best stories in between.

Murray’s life was made for a long form podcast and there are so many brilliant nuggets of business and life wisdom in this one, it’s a super entertaining chat.

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Steve and Seamus discuss their last-minute studio emergency, who their top-five replacements for Matt Heath are, recent recordings with Bree Tomasel and Lisa Carrington and how Wayne Smith has been helping them with their episodes.

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Since we last spoke to Dame Lisa Carrington she has won three Olympic gold medals in Paris – bringing her career tally to an astounding eight gold medals – and cementing her place amongst the world’s greatest ever Olympians.

So we had a lot to catch up about.

We find out about the teamwork involved in the K4 triumph, which added another layer to her legacy, smashing world records at training, why she swerved us at the Halberg Awards, the truth about the most difficult year of her career – and how close she came to walking away, training through sickness, her relationship with husband Bucky – and why she makes him a coffee every morning, if she’ll continue in the boat, becoming an author and the most articulate insights into her elite mindset.

It was a really special episode.

Lisa was an open book – and there are so many incredible nuggets of wisdom and inspiration sprinkled across this episode.

After listening, you really will understand how she’s won 8 Olympic gold medals. It’s not just the discipline and the drive, it’s the thought that goes into every decision along the way.

We felt so incredibly privileged to have a front row seat with NZ’s great athlete, hope you enjoy.

We're also stoked to have Dame Lisa on the books of B2B Speakers, so if you like what you hear in this episode and would love her to share her story at your function or event, flick us a message by going to b2bspeakers.co.nz.

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Craig Fenton is the CEO of New Zealand Rugby Commercial which means it’s his job to drive the business of the All Blacks, Black Ferns and other teams in black.

But Craig is not your typical rugby administrator.

He owns a record label and a film production company, he has his pilot’s license, he was a lawyer, he worked at Google for six years, he hosted his own podcast and he’s on the cutting edge of all the latest trends and developments with AI and technology.

And he’s a great chat.

In this episode we talk about the time he rapped for the Black Ferns Sevens, the future of AI, what he learned from mixing with the best minds at Google, how he connects with his kids, why he returned to NZ after 20 years overseas, NZ Rugby’s biggest issues, the business of rugby and the future of content creation in NZ.

Craig is a larger-than-life character, energetic, into technology – in fact he’s a self-titled geek who is an exceptionally hard worker. He’s lived a pretty exceptional life so far but you get the feeling the next chapter might be his best.

We loved this chat – and took so much from it.

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Steve and Seamus discuss Matt Heath's move away from breakfast radio, the feedback they received from their 'Luxon decision', why Steve's five-year-old is the fastest in his family, NZ's most epic untold business stories, recent episodes with Matiu Walters from Six 60 and the most interesting developments from their business channel.

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Matiu Walters is the lead singer and guitarist of New Zealand’s band Six60.

The group formed in Dunedin in 2008, and across the last 16 years have broken all the rules to become New Zealand’s biggest band.

In 2019 they became the first New Zealand act to sell out Western Springs and in 2021 became the first band to ever play Eden Park to a sold-out crowd of 50,000. 

In this episode we talk to Matiu about Otago University and the origins of the band, getting coached by Josh Kronfeld – and then performing on stage with him, their spine-tingling Eden Park show, his response to harsh critical reviews, the highs and lows of being a musician, Teddy Swims, Eli leaving the band and much, much more.

Matiu is such a great chat. Despite being one of New Zealand’s most popular musicians – there’s no ego attached. He’s as down to earth as they come, and we go deep on all of the most interesting and insightful parts of Six60s wild ride.

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Tim Batt is a pioneer in the digital audio space and one of New Zealand's most impressive creative talents.

He's the producer and co-host of NZ's most popular podcast - with 20 million downloads, he's created his own podcast network, won multiple comedy awards, produced radio for Matt Heath, he's a standup comedian, was a co-chair of the NZ comedy guild, and a father of two kids under 3.

In this episode we talk about starting a podcast with Guy Montgomery where they watch the same movie every week for a year, what he learned from radio and why he left, working with Chloe Swarbrick, the best and worst of the NZ comedy scene and the future of NZ media.

Tim is hilarious and told us after we recorded that he'd contacted both of our partners to do his own research on us. He flips the interview on us about halfway through (well played Tim!).

This was a really fun chat, so many laughs in this one. Tim is super quick, thoughtful and just an all-round interesting guy.

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Steve and Seamus debate Auckland v Hamilton for B2B's 5th birthday party, why they missed out on a corporate box with Steven Adams, the big-name guests they interviewed last week, their upcoming Q and A with Richie McCaw and debate who is NZ's best magician?

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Kanoa Lloyd is one of New Zealand’s top broadcasters and became a household name from co-hosting the Project on primetime TV for seven years.

She first made her name in children’s TV, before working on radio at Mai FM and was also a weather presenter for Newshub.

In this episode we talk about her path from Squirt and Sticky TV to Three News, integrating Te Reo Māori into the weather and all the hate that came along with it, why she quit Mai FM, the blowup of the Project and the stress and burnout that accompanied it, her best and worst moments on live TV, the future of media, parenthood, what she's doing now – and all the best stories in between.

This was such a fun chat. Kanoa is warm, personable and authentic and there were a ton of laughs in this one mixed in with some really thoughtful periods of introspection.

You'll love this one.

We're also super stoked to have Kanoa on the books of B2B Speakers, so if you’d like her to share her story at your function or event, flick us a message by going to B2Bspeakers.co.nz. Also check out our epic lineup of former guests available for hire too.

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Cam Leslie is one of New Zealand’s most successful athletes. He’s won gold medals at three Paralympics in swimming, is a world record-holder, a Halberg award winner and the co-captain of the NZ Wheelblacks.

He’s also a father of three kids under five, runs a farm, has a full time job at Swimming NZ and has an inspirational outlook on life – though he won’t like us using that word!

Cam was born a quadruple amputee with legs to the knee on both sides, his arm is missing four fingers on the right and he has half a forearm on his left side. But it hasn’t slown him down.

In this episode we talk about the realities of his disability and what he can and can’t do, the best stories from touring with the Wheelblacks, how his ‘why’ has changed since having kids, why he withdrew from the Tokyo Paralympics, how he’s stayed at the top for so long and his experience of Kiwi attitudes towards disability.

Paralympics New Zealand is looking to challenge perceptions around disability with their Paris 2024 campaign ‘we’ll give you something to talk about’ and this episode certainly does that.

Cam is brilliant company – funny, thoughtful and engaging and universally loved by his peers. He’s a legend – with a huge future ahead of him.

You’ll love this one.

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Steve and Seamus break down all the details from their big night hosting the Tania Dalton Foundation gala dinner, reflect on recent episodes with Jason Gunn and Jamie Pennell, and discuss their trip down south where they talked to 150 farmers in Invercargill.

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Jamie Pennell had an esteemed 20-year career as a solder and leader inside the NZ SAS.

He was sent on four deployments to Afghanistan and in 2011, he was part of the unit which responded to the Taliban’s Intercontinental Hotel siege. For his bravery in helping save many lives that day - he was awarded the New Zealand Gallantry Star, the country’s second-highest military honour.

In this episode Jamie shares his story about what really happened, he talks about the unique culture of resilience and camaraderie within the NZSAS, and the subsequent alienation this can create when soldiers return to civilian life. We hear of touring with Willie Apiata and what happened the day Willie won his Vic Cross, the brutal reality of SAS selection and some of the most eye raising stories from war zones.

But this ep is so much more than ‘war stories’: in the second half Jamie reflects on what hes seen in men’s mental health, grief, and the struggles of reconnecting with his family. 

Jamie is now an advocate for rewiring the neural pathways to overcome negative thought patterns. After leaving the Defence Force, he gained his master’s in International Security, and trained high performance athletes to reach their goals and He now teaches Learning in the Outdoors to students at Dilworth School.

This podcats tackles some serious themes and there are mentions of suicide. It may not be suitable for all listeners.

If you, or anyone listening to the podcast - finds this subject challenging, please stop now. And remember, help is available from a range of organisations. There’s a list of them in the podcast episode description.

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1737, Need to talk? Free call or text 1737 to talk to a trained counsellor, 24 hours.

Anxiety New Zealand 0800 ANXIETY (0800 269 4389)

Depression.org.nz 0800 111 757 or text 4202

I Am Hope offers a range of services, with a particular focus on young people.

Lifeline 0800 543 354

Mental Health Foundation 09 623 4812, click here to access its free resource and information service.

Rural Support Trust 0800 787 254

Samaritans 0800 726 666

Suicide Crisis Helpline 0508 828 865 (0508 TAUTOKO)

thelowdown.co.nz Web chat, email chat or free text 5626

What's Up 0800 942 8787 (for 5 to 18-year-olds). Phone counselling available Monday-Friday, noon-11pm and weekends, 3pm-11pm. Online chat is available 3pm-10pm daily.

Yellow Brick Road 0800 732 825

Youthline 0800 376 633, free text 234, email talk@youthline.co.nz, or find online chat and other support options here.

If it is an emergency, click here to find the number for your local crisis assessment team.

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Hey team - we've got a special midweek delivery here for you...it's episode three of our new show Accidental Business Owners.

It's a podcast about business, life, mindset, relationships - and the inside story of a pretty wild last 12 months.

In each episode we're joined by our business and mindset coach Di Foster where we pick apart and interrogate all the most interesting and insightful parts of turning a podcast into a full-time business.

In episode three Seamus opens up on what he really wants and Steve gets emotional talking about his struggles of balancing family and business.

This show lives on our new Business in Between channel - and our plan here is that you listen to it, discover it, love it - then head over to Business in Between - listen to the previous two episodes and then follow for all future releases.

Hope that all makes sense!

The episodes all stand alone, so you don't need to have listened to 1 and 2 first!

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This episode is pretty special.

Jason Gunn is one of New Zealand's most loved entertainers - and is the best storyteller we've had on the podcast.

We talk about the incredible rise of the Son of a Gunn Show, what people get wrong about Thingee, life in the public eye, McDonalds Young entertainers, Dancing with the Stars, sideline Jase and the art of storytelling.

And in the second half  we talk about his heart attack, thoughts on mortality, family and the recent loss of his mum - and there are some incredibly special, emotional moments of connection.

Jase is one of a kind. When he walks into a room - he makes it a better place. His energy is contagious.

For Seamus and I, we grew up watching him everyday after school - and so to share his life story with so much depth was a really cool experience for both of us.

You'll love this one.

We’re also super stoked to tell you about the business we’ve built. If you’d like to hire one of our incredible guests to speak at or MC your event, check out our epic lineup at B2Bspeakers.co.nz and get in touch.

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Steve and Seamus reveal the big-name guest who recently made them both cry, Seamus reflects on his recent live Q and A with Mark Stafford, the boys talk about their recent interview with Hambassador OG Matt Stark and Steve's losing streak continues with Between Two Bets.

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This week on Between Two Beers we talk to David Nyika.

David is one of NZ’s best boxers. He’s won two Commonwealth Games gold medals, an Olympic bronze, was the NZ flagbearer at the Rio Olympics and since turning professional has a record of nine fights, nine wins.

In this episode we hear his best stories from training with Tyson Fury and Israel Adesanya, the highs of winning gold, and the lows of 2020, the influence David Galbraith and Sarah Walker have has on his outlook, dating his trainer’s daughter, what life looks like after boxing and his upcoming headline fight in Auckland.

David is one of the nicest guys in boxing. He’s thoughtful and fun and has a huge future ahead of him, we were so stoked to grab some of his time when he was briefly back in NZ.

We’re also super stoked to tell you about the business we’ve built. If you’d like to hire one of our incredible guests to speak at or MC your event, check out our epic lineup at B2Bspeakers.co.nz and get in touch.

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We have a new show! And you can find it by searching 'Business in Between' in your podcast app.

It's a podcast about business, life, mindset, relationships and the inside story of a pretty wild last 12 months.

My name is Steve Holloway and alongside my best mate Seamus Marten, we started a podcast called Between Two Beers nearly five years ago in my Hamilton garage.

In quite a surreal series of events, it’s turned into our fulltime job – and along with the podcast we’ve also started two side businesses.

One is B2B Speakers – which brings the guests you hear on Between Two Beers to your live event as MCs or Speakers, and the other is called Reflections where our storytellers are available for hire to capture your families' private stories to pass down through generations.

In November last year, I was feeling pretty overwhelmed with what my new world was looking like, and so I connected with a business coach who specializes in helping Accidental Business Owners find their way.

Her name is Di Foster – and as you'll soon discover, she’s a bit of a weapon.

This podcast tells our story, and hers - because shes been juggling parenthood, wellness and a growing business also. It all comes out in these 30 minute, live coaching sessions.

Through the series there are laughs, tears and some pretty brutal honesty - but it's something we're all really proud of.

Hope you enjoy. 

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On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to Anna Reeve.

Anna is the co-founder of Pals, a former model and influencer, a global alopecia ambassador, she won Season 1 of the Traitors and is a mother of twin boys.

In this episode we talk about how her clever social media marketing as co-founder of Pals helped the company become a market leader in the NZ RTD space, the realities of life as a business owner, how she lost all of her hair when she was just seven-years old and becoming an international model with Alopecia, the best yarns from her Traitors win, what life is like married to radio star Jay Reeve, her experience with post-natal depression, Ja Rule, Tyler Banks and much, much more.

Anna has also made a name for herself as a social media influencer in NZ, and it’s easy to see why. She’s fun, smart, up for a laugh – and just great company. Everything is so authentic. We really enjoyed this yarn – hope you do to.

We’re also super stoked to tell you about the business we’ve built. If you’d like to hire one of our incredible guests to speak at or MC your event, check out our epic lineup at B2Bspeakers.co.nz and get in touch.

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Steve and Seamus reflect on their recent gig with Josh Kronfeld, discuss the Football Ferns spying controversy, business updates and why they travel to Auckland separatley, reflect on their recent episode with Sione Famuina and look ahead to the Paris Olympics with Between Two Bets.

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Sione Faumuina played 132 NRL matches for the Warriors, Cowboys and Raiders, had two stints in the UK Super League and played two times for the Kiwis.

But his career was a troubled one.

He had the potential to be one of the greatest sporting talents this country has produced, but was instead consumed by alcohol and erratic behaviour.

After retiring aged 28, Sione had almost nothing to show for a decade as a professional league player, estimating that he had earned more than a million dollars in that time.

In this episode we talk about hitting rock bottom and how he has rebuilt his life as a business owner and father of four, how he made the NRL 18 months after he started playing league, his relationship with alcohol and all his lowest moments at the Raiders and Warriors, going sober, unlocking his story by writing a book and how he’s now using his life lessons to help others.

Sione’s story is gripping and - he tells it really well. We go into a lot of detail about some really difficult times in his career, and at this stage of his life he’s an open book – his drive in sharing is to help others learn from his mistakes.

And his story is not finished yet.

We're also super stoked to have Sione on the books of B2B Speakers, so if you’d like him to share his story at your function or event, flick us a message by going to B2Bspeakers.co.nz. Also check out our epic lineup of former guests available for hire too.

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This week we're rewinding the clock back to August of 2022 when we sat down with Eliza McCartney.

Eliza is a professional pole vaulter and one of the very best in the world. 

At the time of recording, her career had stalled after an unfortunate run of injuries.

She'd burst onto the scene as a 19-year old, taking home bronze from the Rio Olympics, before winning silver at the 2018 Commonwealth Games, and smashing indoor and outdoor Oceania records. 

But then the setbacks started.

In this episode we talked about the mental and physical struggle of dealing with her injuries - and how she was rebuilding, going to school with Lorde, the time she accidentally stumbled on a nude beach, why her coach made her tell a joke each week, her rise to the top of the pole vaulting world and the whirlwind of fame that followed her Olympic bronze. 

Today, aged 27, she's back to full fitness and has qualified for the Paris Olympics - where she will compete in August.

Eliza is such good company and we both really loved this chat. In the second half we go quite deep on the injury situation, and you’ll get a really clear picture of what a tough few years it had been for her. This was her first ever podcast appearance, and we’re really grateful she came on to share her story. 

We’re also super stoked to tell you about the business we’ve built. If you’d like to hire one of our incredible guests to speak at or MC your event, check out our epic lineup at B2Bspeakers.co.nz and get in touch.

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Steve and Seamus celebrate their three millionth download and reflect on their first year, they discuss their new podcast series called Accidental Business Owners, discuss recent episodes with Rachel Hunter and Simon Porter and recap all the action in Between Two Bets.

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Rachel Hunter is the girl from Glenfield who made the big time.

She was a teen who left school, became a supermodel, married Rod Stewart and became an international celebrity. These days she travels the world as a spiritual teacher and we were lucky enough to grab her for a few hours when she was back in NZ recently.

In this episode we talk about her lifetime in the spotlight, her two week silent retreat, life after Rod Stewart, Being Stacey’s mum and *that* Trumpet Ad, her relationship with the late great Andy Haden, wellbeing myths and all the best stories in between.

Rachel was one of NZ’s first global superstars and is still one of the countries most recognizable names. This was a really fun chat that gave a peak behind the curtain of an exceptional life.

We’re also super stoked to tell you about the business we’ve built. If you’d like to hire one of our incredible guests to speak at or MC your event, check out our epic lineup at B2Bspeakers.co.nz and get in touch.

We're also super stoked to have Rachel on the books of B2B Speakers, so if you’d like her involved at your function or event, flick us a message by going to B2Bspeakers.co.nz. Also check out our epic lineup of former guests available for hire too.

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On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to Simon Porter.

Simon is the CEO of New Zealand’s biggest sporting agency, Halo Sport.

His company represents many of NZ’s biggest stars, from Scott Robertson, Ian Foster, Beauden Barrett and Dan Carter to Dame Valerie Adams, Suzie Bates, Gemma McCaw and Willie Apiata.

Simon has been working in either sports law or the sporting industry since 1999 and became the boss at Halo Sport in 2017.

His network is unrivalled having brokered contracts for his clients in every professional market within the rugby world.

His knowledge of sport in NZ and sponsorship contracts is second to none.

In this episode we talk about the realities of being NZ’s top sporting agent – and what separates the good from the great, behind the scenes of representing both Razor and Ian Foster during the All Blacks coaching saga, his role in connecting NZ Rugby with Japan, the problems with rugby in NZ, where cricket is headed, and much, much more.

Simon is one of the cleanest, sharpest thinkers in NZ sport and this was an entertaining and insightful peak behind the scenes of his world.

We’re also super stoked to tell you about the business we’ve built. If you’d like to hire one of our incredible guests to speak at or MC your event, check out our epic lineup at b2bspeakers.co.nz and get in touch.

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They boys play some clips from their recent interviews on Newstalk ZB and Radio NZ, reflect on recent episodes with Di Foster and Brooke Howard Smith, reveal how they spent three days in Rototura and answer listeners' questions.

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Di Foster is one of our low-key legends, who works as a business coach, mindshifter and speaker.

We connected with Di late last year as we were transitioning from employees to accidental business owners – and were looking for a wise head to help guide us through some pretty unknown waters.

We found Di, who had recently helped former guest Dave Wood transform his business into the juggernaught it is today, and she quickly became our business coach and mentor. Within an hour of meeting her – we knew we would one day tell her story on the podcast. And here she is.

In this episode we talk about the lessons learned from becoming a blackbelt in Karate, what she saw in Dave Wood’s business and how she helped him, some of the most interesting interactions we’ve had in the six months we’ve worked together and all the best lessons and advice acquired from 30 years working, building and coaching in the business space.

Di also has an incredible cancer story.

14 years ago she was diagnosed with terminal, secondary, breast cancer. She was given a 0% chance of surviving 12 months. She turned her back on traditional treatment and healed herself. She experienced a radical remission.
Her cancer journey doesn’t define her, but it certainly guides her work.

She has been transformative in our short journey as business owners, and we can’t wait to share her story with you.

You'll love this one.

We're also super stoked to announce that Di has joined us at B2B Speakers and is available to share her insights and story at your function or event. Also check out our epic lineup of former guests available for hire too – go to b2bspeakers.co.nz.

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Steve and Seamus share all the details of their big night at the NZ Radio and Podcast awards last week, the boys announce their new major sponsor, Steve does a Reflections interview with a 95-year-old man, and they reflect on recent episodes with Shane Bradley and Steve Tew.

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On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to Steve Tew.

These days Steve is a director with High Performance Sport New Zealand, but he’s best known for being the CEO of New Zealand Rugby from 2008-2019.

He was the boss when New Zealand held all four World Cups (men's, women's and two sevens), he guided the code through the Respect and Responsibility Review, inked critical sponsorship deals with Adidas and AIG, as well as a 5-year broadcast deal. In short, his administrative legacy in rugby in NZ may be unmatched.

In this episode we talk about his relationship with Steve Hansen and that time they discovered Richie McCaw, court-sessions in the 90s and how he connected with players, observations of the Professor Wayne Smith, lessons in leadership and all the best stories in between.

Steve has been very careful to stay away from commenting on rugby since leaving his pressure post and has refused all interviews on or off record when issues have arisen. His view is that ex-CEOs are just that, ex, and should not be heard, so we didn’t touch on today’s current hot-potato issues like the NZR governance spat or the future shape of professional rugby competitions.

But this was a cracking chat, and an exclusive insight into the makings of one of NZ sport's best leaders.

Steve is ultra Kiwi-authentic, whip-smart and as comfortable in the All Blacks dressing room as he was in World Rugby’s board.

You’ll love this one.

We’re also super stoked to tell you about the business we’ve built. If you’d like to hire one of our incredible guests to speak at or MC your event, check out our epic lineup at B2Bspeakers.co.nz and get in touch.

And finally, we’re delighted to announce the TAB as the shows new major sponsor. We’ve got some exciting integrations planned and are stoked with our new partnership.

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Shane Bradley is one of New Zealand’s most successful business owners.

The full number of businesses he’s started and sold are too long to list here; but he’s been the brains behind Finda, Sella, Grab One, Neighbourly, Pet.co.nz, Pet Direct and many more.

And his journey to the top has been one hell of a ride.

In this episode we talk about dropping out of school in sixth form, how he created a business with 50 employees at the age of 22 and the lessons learned from its failure, 100-hour work weeks, the stunning success of GrabOne, walking away from it all to compete in Ironman, and all the best stories from a liftetime of starting and selling businesses.

This is the first time Shane has shared his story in full and we cover some emotional ground too. Shane shares details of his eating disorder, his mental health struggles and the devastating blow of recently losing his dog, Cooper.

This was such a cool chat, full of industry-leading insights on business, tips on balancing family and business and how he's succeded by living life at pace.

You’ll love this one.

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We’re also super stoked to tell you about the business we’ve built. If you’d like to hire one of our incredible guests to speak at or MC your event, check out our epic lineup at B2Bspeakers.co.nz and get in touch.

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It's catch-up time for the lads after Seamus has been away for three weeks. They discuss attending Matt Heath's book launch, their nomination at the NZ Radio and podcast awards, when Seamus is going 'full time' in podcasting, the guest they feel most connected too, answer listener questions and reveal next week's epic guest.

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Matt Heath was one of the first ‘big names’ that gave us his time when we just starting out in the podcast game, and this week, coinciding with the release of his new book "A Life Less Punishing" we thought it was a great time to get him back on.

Matt is an actor, producer, sports commentator, columnist, musician and radio host and now author, and can be heard hosting the Radio Hauraki breakfast radio show alongside Jeremy Wells, as well as commentating on the Alternative Commentary Collective. 

This is a really cool episode that covers a lot of ground. We talk about creating deeper friendships, gratitude and finitude, the current and future state of the media, loss and grief and writing a column a week for 10 years for the Herald.

We've always been huge fans of Matt, the way his brain works and his outlook on life. And this was such an awesome conversation - we loved it.

We're also super stoked to have Matt on the books of B2B Speakers, so if you’d like him to MC your night, or share his story at your function or event, flick us a message by going to B2Bspeakers.co.nz. Also check out our epic lineup of former guests available for hire too. And while there sign up to our weekly newsletter with all the biggest news from us and the podcasting space in NZ.  

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On this episode of Between two Beers we’re rewinding the clock back to February of 2023 when we sat down with Dame Lisa Carrington. 

This was a really cool chat with arguably New Zealand’s greatest athlete and we wanted to re-share it with all our new listeners.

Lisa is New Zealand’s most successful Olympian of all time with five Olympic gold medals in the sprint Kayak, one bronze and 12 World Championship titles. 

For over a decade, Lisa has been the best in the world at her sport and after listening to this conversation it will become clear why. 
 
We go deep inside the mind of a champion and talk about her relationship with self-doubt and high performance, why she hasn’t missed training in 13 years, and how she deals with race-day pressure. We also hear about her passport slip-ups, gym playlists, superstitions, the power of journalling, and all the best and most entertaining stories from a life on the road. 

Seamus and I were mesmerized by this chat in places. It's so rare you get such an extended period of time to probe away at the inner workings of the very best in the world, and Lisa’s discipline, thought process, and ability to articulate how she succeeds was really, really cool.

We’re also super stoked to tell you about the business we’ve built. If you’d like to hire one of our incredible guests to speak or MC your event, check out our epic lineup at B2Bspeakers.co.nz and get in touch.

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Ali Williams is a former All Black who was a professional rugby player for 16 years, played 77 times for New Zealand and won the Rugby World Cup in 2011.

This was Ali’s first long-form podcast and it turned into something really quite special.

We covered perception vs reality, his blended family operation with mega-successful businesswoman Anna Mowbray, why he’s investing in Auckland FC, his relationship with his dad, his best stories from the All Blacks, *That night in Paris*, retirement and what he’s doing now.

This was one of our most memorable episodes. There were laughs and tears, ideas challenged, and perceptions shifted.

Ali is comfortable being the life of the party- but also operates with real depth in his thinking.

He’s a super unique guy and I think you’ll get a lot out of this one, we loved it.
We’re also super stoked to tell you about the business we’ve built. If you’d like to hire one of our incredible guests to speak or MC your event, check out our epic lineup at B2Bspeakers.co.nz and get in touch. And while there sign up to our weekly newsletter with all the biggest news from us and the podcasting space in NZ.  

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Steve and Seamus discuss the challenge of mixing a friendship with a business relationship, listener questions answered, Will Pike episode reviewed, Seamus' life on the road explained, Jason Gunn, William Pike and Ali Williams.

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William Pike is one of our low-key legends who is a world-class story teller, with an exceptional story to tell.

In 2007 he was guiding a friend to the summit of Ruapehu when the mountain erupted. As a layer of rocks, water and mud rained down on his Dome shelter, he was crushed and critically injured.

When he next woke up in hospital, his leg was gone. Doctors called William’s survival a miracle, but his crushed right leg had to be amputated below the knee. After a long series of surgeries and a gruelling rehabilitation, William learned to walk again with a prosthetic limb – and what he’s done with his life since is equally remarkable and inspiring.

This episode is gripping. William’s harrowing account of being trapped on the mountain, anticipating death will stick with you. The community that rallied to save and support him in the rescue and rehab will  warm your heart – and how he’s used the adversity to thrive in life will inspire.

You’ll love this one.

We're also super stoked to announce that William has joined us at B2B Speakers and is available to share his story at your function or event. As you’re about to hear, William is one of the best speakers in NZ and you can now get him to your work or event by flicking us a message at B2Bspeakers.co.nz. Also check out our epic lineup of former guests available for hire too. And while there sign up to our weekly newsletter with all the biggest news from us and the podcasting space in NZ.  

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Dave Wood is best known as being Israel Adesanya’s breathing and mindset coach – and was one of our favourite, and most popular, guests in 2023.

He runs a two-day Calm Under Pressure workshop in Piha and the course – and his work has a strong connection to the show.

Steve went on it last year, it’s where he was inspired by Jemarl Paerata’s story and we had him on the show as a guest – and this month Seamus attended it.

We spend the first 15 mins in this one unpacking the weekend and what Seamus got from it, before digging into what Dave’s been up to for the last year.

We talk about the incredible growth and success of his business, the key to finding balance in a busy life, the importance of being selfish – and prioritizing yourself, how he helped the world’s best squash player, training the Warriors and why understanding the impact of your thinking, emotions and actions is pivotal to achieving personal growth.

If you’re interested in Dave’s epic life story and the first 40 years of his life, I’d highly recommend going back to listen to the ep we recorded with him in February of 2023.

We're also super stoked to have Dave on the books of B2B Speakers, so if you’d like him to MC your night, or share his story at your function or event, flick us a message by going to B2Bspeakers.co.nz.

Also check out our epic lineup of former guests available for hire too. And while there sign up to our weekly newsletter with all the biggest news from us and the podcasting space in NZ.  
 
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Market research reveals Between Two Beers listeners' favourite guest, Steve explains the internet's biggest sensation to Seamus, the boys share what they learned from Steven Bartlett's live show in Auckland, Seamus details his experience at Dave Wood's Calm Under Pressure workshop, David Higgins, Karen O'Leary and much more.

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On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to Karen O’Leary.

Karen has one of the most interesting career arcs of anyone on our screens.

She worked as an early childhood educator for two decades, before being tricked into auditioning for a role in Taika Waititi and Jermaine Clement’s cult-classic feature What We Do In The Shadows.

Her head-turning 90 second performance as Officer O’Leary led to the lead role in comedy spin-off series Wellington Paranormal, a show that is broadcast around the world in 70 countries.

Then last year she made the switch to current events, and won the coveted Best Presenter of Entertainment award for her work on Paddy Gower has Issues on Newshub, months before it was announced the show would not be returning.

In this episode we talk about her unique career path and all the best stories along the way, her reaction to Newshub shutting down and whats next, getting naked with Jermaine Clement, why her nickname is little bush, the best of Officer O’Leary and much much more.

Karen is a lethal combination of charismatic, hilarious and smart – and this was a really fun one, with so many great yarns.

We're also super stoked to have Karen on the books of B2B Speakers, so if you’d like her to MC your night, or share her story at your function or event, flick us a message by going to B2Bspeakers.co.nz. Also check out our epic lineup of former guests available for hire too. And while there sign up to our weekly newsletter with all the biggest news from us and the podcasting space in NZ.  

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On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to Jehan Casinader.

Jehan Casinader is an award-winning journalist who is now one of New Zealand’s most sought-after key note speakers.

He worked in primetime TV for more than a decade across roles with Sunday., Seven Sharp, Close Up and Breakfast and was named “Broadcast Reporter of the Year” in 2020.

Jehan specialises in reporting on social issues. From gritty investigations to moving human-interest pieces and revealing celebrity profiles – Jehan has done them all. He also produced and hosted TVNZ’s first-ever mental health series, The Inside Word.

In this episode we talk about writing stories for the Holmes programme at 13, and travelling the world as a journo at 20. The collapse of the NZ media industry, why it happened and what we can learn from it, his night in Gloriavale, Graham Norton, why we have a men’s mental health crisis in NZ, and tips for those wanting to build their personal brand.

Jehan also shared details of his four-year struggle with depression, and suicidality and how “rewriting” his story helped him to survive.

This was an incredibly rich and thought-provoking chat. Jehan is one of NZ’s best and most articulate speakers and his messaging is so strong.

His message that many Kiwis think their brains are broken, but in fact, it’s our stories that are broken – feels very timely right now.

You’re going to love this one, Jehan is a weapon, and we thoroughly enjoyed this chat.

We're also super stoked to have Jehan on the books of B2B Speakers, so if you’d like him to MC your night, or share his story at your function or event, flick us a message by going to http://B2Bspeakers.co.nz .

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Welcome to episode #2 of the Business in Between podcast.

This week we’re re-visiting our chat with Dion Nash from 2022 where we talked about his transition from professional sportsman to business owner.

The original recording of this episode went for two hours, with the first 90 minutes focused on his upbringing, family and his professional cricket career.

We’re going to join the action on the home-straight, where we switch to his business journey – and it’s a compelling 30 minutes.

Dion talks about his first job out of cricket and his idea to sell bottled water, how he became marketing director for 42 below and his journey working for Bacardi, why he left and how he had the courage to start his own business, Triumph and Disaster.

There are so many gems in this one, and Dion is such a thoughtful bloke. We talk about taking action and breaking stereotypes, how everyone is bluffing it, respecting when you’re in form, how a life with no regrets is a bullshit life and much, much more.

If you love this 30 mins and want to listen to the full ep, you can find it in our back catalogue on the Between Two Beers channel.

We’re also super stoked to tell you about the business we’ve built. If you’d like to hire one of our incredible guests to speak or MC your event, check out our epic lineup at B2Bspeakers.co.nz and get in touch. And while there sign up to our weekly newsletter with all the biggest news from us and the podcasting space in NZ.  

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It's been a busy fortnight for Steve and Seamus. The lads discuss Seamus' commentary for the Wellington Phoenix, delivering a presentation to the Chiefs, recording 8 podcasts in two weeks, Dion Nash's epic business lessons, Sir Ian Taylor, next week's guest and much, much more.

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Awen Guttenbeil was suggested to us 18 months ago as a guest with ‘serious depth’.

And he did not disappoint.

In fact, we loved this ep so much we’re re-releasing it this week for all those who may have missed it a year ago.

You may know Awen as one of New Zealand’s greatest rugby league players, with 170 caps for the Warriors over a professional career that spanned 15 years. What you might not know, is that in the first five years of his career he spent more time under general anesthetic then he did on the field.  

In this episode we talk about the mental toll of 60 hours under GA and how he got his career back on track, the hustle, grind and drive to set up his thriving business career post footy, reflections on the Warriors’ most famous scraps, the best end of year trip stories, why he didn’t fancy a career as a broadcaster, meeting the queen, what he’s learned as a dad, golf, what the next chapter looks like and much much more. 

This ep was really special. Awen is such an eloquent speaker with a lifetime of important lessons to share. We asked him some ‘big picture’ questions at the end, and the impromptu, thoughtful, articulate answers blew us away. You'll love this one. 

We’re also super stoked to tell you about the business we’ve built. If you’d like to hire one of our incredible guests to speak or MC your event, check out our epic lineup at B2Bspeakers.co.nz and get in touch. And while there sign up to our weekly newsletter with all the biggest news from us and the podcasting space in NZ.  

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Sir Ian has lived one hell of a life.

He was the lead singer of a rock band, he served in the army, worked at a brewery, studied law, became a kids presenter for TVNZ, then a TV star, before setting up his own production company.

Today, he’s one of New Zealand’s top business leaders. His team at ARL have revolutionised how we watch sport, he’s earned a knighthood for his services to broadcasting and business and he’s become an outspoken columnist.

In this episode we talk about the day he went to work to shut down his company, and why he didn’t, the origin story of creating graphics for sport and how he secured contracts all over the world, why his company only made their first profit in 2019, his thoughts on politics and the current state of NZ and much, much more.

Sir Ian is one of NZ’s great characters, with so much wisdom to share and love to spread. This was a chat we felt priviliged to be a part of with one of NZ’s greatest innovators.

We’re also super stoked to tell you about the business we’ve built. If you’d like to hire one of our incredible guests to speak or MC your event, check out our epic lineup at B2Bspeakers.co.nz and get in touch. And while there sign up to our weekly newsletter with all the biggest news from us and the podcasting space in NZ.  

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Seamus reflects on his social media post about being single for seven years, Steve announces the new business podcast they're making, Seamus visits Dave Wood in Piha, and the boys discuss the epic response from recent episodes with Lauren Rae and Mark Stafford.

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On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to Mark Stafford.

This ep is really special. There's just so much goodness in here.

Staffy is a radio host, who is best known as the former face of the TAB, where he spent two decades as a bookmaker and broadcaster.

But what's not so well-known is his roller-coaster ride through life with all its twists and turns.

In this episode we talk about how he died in a car accident, before being brought back to life, beating cancer, getting diagnosed with MS and found his way to the TAB. He shares his best match-fixing stories, we talk about the legend of Steel Balls and all the most incredible yarns from being NZ's premier oddsmaker.

We also talk about the devastating year of 2020, where he lost his job, his sister and his best friend in a short period of time. How he built himself back up, the friendships and lessons he leaned on and his reflections towards the end of this one - make it one of the greats.

Staffy is such a lovely bloke, who's been through it all. He was incredibly candid and raw in this chat, and when you mix that up with being one of the best storytellers in NZ, made it one of our favs.

We're also super stoked to have Staffy on the books of B2B Speakers, so if you’d like him to MC your night, or share his story at your function or event, flick us a message by going to www.b2bspeakers.co.nz.

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On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to Lauren Rae.

I don't say this lightly, but this is one of the most powerful eps we've done.

Lauren is one of our Low Key Legends, who's currently in the fight of her life against melanoma.

After going to the Commonwealth Games as a weightlifter, Lauren was given a terminal cancer diagnosis for a rare non-sun related melanoma which contained a gene called BRAF v600e.

Despite having the melanoma surgically removed Lauren was told the cancer cells had spread to her lymph nodes, and that should she decide to join the clinical trial at Auckland Hospital, the doctors didn't think it would be of any use.

Staring mortality in the face, Lauren questioned her diagnosis. She chose to fight, seeking second and third opinions that eventually opened the door to hope and led her family to going all in on Australia.

Within a week of speaking to her Brisbane Oncologist, Lauren's family sold their car, took leave without pay and told their three and five year old, they were off on holiday.

The powerful part is what happened next, Lauren's outlook and approach to life, the wisdom she's accrued and the spirit she's bringing to this fight.

This is an ep you won't forget. Lauren is an exceptional storyteller and her journey is a real perspective shifter.

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Seamus spends a day on David Galbraith's mindset course, Steve shares all the details of where they're investing in the podcast, the boys review recent episodes with Jesse Mulligan and Megan Compain, and preview an upcoming Low Key Legend.

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Megan Compain is the newly appointed All Blacks commercial manager, whose back story is as impressive as her new role.

She was the first Kiwi to play professional basketball in the USA and the only one to play in the WNBA, had three pro seasons in Europe, and represented New Zealand for 10 years and at two Olympic Games. 

She also has an extensive 20-year career in the sports industry, including a long history with New Zealand Rugby - and is the partner and director of her own creative agency in Wellington. 

In this episode we talk about leaving Whanganui for the US as a 16-year-old, life as a professional basketballer, Partying with Dirk Nowitzki, Steve Nash and Mark Cuban, managing NZ Rugby’s commercial obligations, her parenting journey and relationship with Razor.

Megan also addresses the enduring impact of the abuse of trust and grooming she suffered as a teenager at High School the US. It’s the first time Megan has opened up publicly on some of the most difficult parts of her journey, and we’re so grateful she shared her story – to help others who may be in a similar situation. 

This was such a cool chat, which effortlessly bounced from heartfelt to hilarious. Megan’s energy and outlook on life are contagious; we really loved this one.

We're also super stoked to have Megan on the books of B2B Speakers, so if you’d like him to MC your night, or share his story at your function or event, flick us a message by going to B2Bspeakers.co.nz. Also check out our epic lineup of former guests available for hire too. And while there sign up to our weekly newsletter with all the biggest news from us and the podcasting space in NZ.

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Jesse Mulligan is one of New Zealand’s best, and highest profile broadcasters – and a man that can do it all.

He’s been a standup comic, TV producer, writer, PR man, food reviewer, radio announcer and he’s even a trained lawyer.

But he’s best known for reaching huge audiences both on his afternoon show at Radio NZ, and his stints at Seven Sharp and the Project, where he fronted the show for seven years before it shut down in 2023.

This interview was recorded two weeks before the shocking announcement that Newshub is set to close – and while we discussed the future of TV and the jobs in it, no one had any idea what was to come.

Jesse was incredible company and such a thoughtful, interesting guest. We talked about his most interesting interviews, Matt and Jerry, his path through comedy and TV, the axing of the Project, what he’ll do next and much, much more.

This was a really fun one, hope you enjoy.

We're also super stoked to have Jesse on the books of B2B Speakers, so if you’d like him to MC your night, or share his story at your function or event, flick us a message by going to B2Bspeakers.co.nz. Also check out our epic lineup of former guests available for hire too. And while there sign up to our weekly newsletter with all the biggest news from us and the podcasting space in NZ.

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Steve and Seamus discuss their new weekly business meetings and how they're working on their relationship, they reflect on recent episodes with the girls from Sex.Life and Zion Armstrong and reveal who the next guest is.

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Strap in, because this one’s an epic. 
 
Zion Armstrong's story starts in West Auckland and involves running away from the police so fast that he started an athletics career that took him to the Commonwealth Games. At the same time, he was selling sport shoes – and at the age of 24 was head of footwear at adidas NZ. 
 
From that toehold he climbed the corporate ladder before becoming president for Adidas North America where he oversaw 12,500 staff, inked deals with some of the world's biggest sports and music stars and took annual profit to a record $US6 billion after a couple of years. 

Here Armstrong can name-drop some ultra-impressive dealings, playing a link role in facilitating Inter Miami's signing of Lionel Messi, securing Kansas City Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes on an Adidas promotional contract, and working on projects with Grammy award-winning rapper Pharrell Williams. 

And then finally, in 2022, Armstrong walked away from this rock-and-roll lifestyle and returned to New Zealand in pursuit of being a better dad in the wake of his divorce, not wanting his children to experience the same disconnect he had often endured as a kid. 
 
We cover all the detail in this one – and it’s one heck of a ride. Zion’s inspirational story shows what’s possible with the right mindset and work ethic – and his decision to walk away shows what's really important in life. You’ll love this one. 

We're also super stoked to have Zion on the books of B2B Speakers, so if you’d like him to share his story, or one of our other epic guests, at your function or event, flick us a message by going to B2Bspeakers.co.nz. And while there sign up to our weekly newsletter with all the biggest news from us and the podcasting space in NZ. 

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On this episode of Between Two Beers we welcome back Morgan Penn and Hayley Sproull from the podcast Sex.Life. 

A lot has happened since we last had them on the show – including Sex.Life becoming NZ’s top new podcast of 2023. 
 
In this episode we trace back over all the most interesting stories and themes from Season 1 – and take a glimpse at Season 2, we discuss the relationship between the duo – and how it’s evolved, we talk home play, Jason Momoa, what their DMs look like and how our listeners responded to our first episode with Morgan. And in the second half they help answer all our sex questions from both us and our guests. 

This was a really fun ep – filled with a ton of super valuable sex advice and laughs. It’s the foursome you never knew you needed. 

But it does include descriptions of sexual acts and desires, and is not suitable for listeners under the age of 18. Please take care of yourself, and ask for help if you need it. 

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Steve and Seamus recount a wild 24 hours interacting with Jesse Mulligan, Richie McCaw, Ian Foster, Wayne Smith, Laura McGoldrick, Chris Luxon and many more, they analyse Seamus' awkward moment with the Warriors, how he avoided disaster and all the best stories from their night presenting at the Halberg Awards.

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On this episode of Between Two Beers we’re rewinding the clock back two years to when we sat down with Grant Fox. 

Grant is one of the best to have ever worn the All Blacks 10 jersey and is still regarded as one of the finest goal-kickers of all time. 

At the time of recording, Grant was in his final weeks as an All Blacks selector and in the process of pulling down the curtain on a 40-year career with New Zealand Rugby. 

We covered all the most insightful parts of his rugby career, his business, his relationship with Ryan and some of his best stories from travelling with his golf superstar son. 

He also talks about his 40-year friendship with the late Sir Martin Crowe and his important work with Big Buddies and the importance of being present with your kids. 

This was one of our favourite episodes and we’re really excited to share it with our new listeners. Grant broke the stereotype of stoic rugby man, with passages of real vulnerability and openness. If you didn’t catch it the first time around you’re in for a treat. 

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Dave Letele is perhaps best known as a former professional boxer 'Brown Buttabean’, but his story is so much larger than that.  

It's been filled with highs and lows, from early sporting success to the failure of his supermarket business in Australia where he lost everything, including his family, and returned to New Zealand with only the clothes on his back, weighing in at over 200 kgs. 

He turned to prize fighting to earn money and get fit, lost over 100kgs and shared his journey on social media. The public response to his efforts built up the movement that became Buttabean Motivation or BBM. 

For the last decade, he’s worked tirelessly to create opportunities for people. He has set up free gyms in West and South Auckland, and Tokoroa, a community kitchen, a social supermarket in Tokoroa, and a Foodshare which regularly feeds thousands of people.  

In this episode we cover it all, in great detail – and it’s a blockbuster. He’s a man making a huge difference in Kiwi communities and we’re so thrilled to share his story. 

We’re also thrilled to announce Dave has joined us at B2B Speakers, our business that brings our guests to your events. If you’d like to hire Dave , or any of our other epic guests, at your next conference or function, get in touch by going to B2Bspeakers.co.nz 

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Steve and Seamus discuss their latest 'acting' gig, Steve has coffee with Ric Salizzo and announces another big life update, Seamus shares his public speaking anxiety, they give a Halbergs update and answer all your questions.

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Guy Montgomery is one of New Zealand’s best and most popular comedians who has been a fixture on Kiwi screens for over a decade. 

He’s been on Taskmaster, 7 Days, Celebrity Treasure Island and Have you Been Paying attention, while simultaneously selling out standup shows across Australia and New Zealand. 
 
Last year, his new show: Guy Montgomery’s Guy Mont-Spelling Bee premiered on Three to rave reviews and his new standup show took out the coveted Fred Award at the NZ comedy festival for best new show. 
 
In his spare time, he also created NZ’s most popular podcast called The Worst Idea of All Time – which has had over 10 million downloads. 

In this episode we talk about the time he slept in a New York sewer for a week, his most outrageous bets, why he had a stand-off with my father-in-law at a recent comedy show, his rise through the NZ comedy ranks, reflections on the life of a step-dad and much, much more. 
 
Guy has reached the summit of NZ comedy and it’s easy to see why. He’s quick, he’s fun and silly but he’s also a deep thinker with a wicked work ethic and desire to keep growing. This was such a fun one. 

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Dr Inia Raumati is one of our Low Key Legends – a man who lives life in the extremes. 

He works as an emergency doctor at Auckland City Hospital, was deployed to Iraq with the NZ army, holds a blue-belt in Jui Jitsu and has volunteered on rescue helicopters. 
 
He is one of only a small group of people who have run the 4 Deserts Grand Slams, completing multi-day “raids” across the Sahara, Gobi, Atacama, and the Antarctic. 
 
This year, Inia plans on being the first person in the world to run a self-supported, multi-stage ultra marathon (that’s over 250 km per race) on every continent, in a single year. 

In this episode we talk about how running helped him deal with his anger in his youth, surfing without knowing how to swim, the obstacles he’s overcome, his path into medicine and the challenges of being a maori doctor in New Zealand, the most incredible stories from his ultra-marathon missions around the world and the logistics of working towards this year’s goal. 
 
Inia is a candid, Kiwi bloke, whose honest sensibility, humour, and grounded nature was refreshing - and his mental hardness and mindset will blow you away. This is an ep not to be missed. 

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Steve and Seamus have landed a gig at the 2024 Halberg Awards, they go behind the scenes of their Tim Brown podcast, Steve is launching a new course and has made some parenting mistakes.

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Raelene Castle is the CEO of Sport NZ, and one of the most accomplished and experienced administrators in NZ sport. 

She spent six years as CEO of Netball NZ, before becoming the first female CEO of an NRL team, when she led the Bulldogs for six years. 

After that she smashed another glass wall, becoming Rugby Australia’s first female CEO in 2018. 

In this episode we talk about the challenges of the Israel Folau saga, when she found herself at the centre of one of sports biggest controversies at Rugby Australia, how she got the job at the Bulldogs, her relationship with Des Hassler and the most insightful memories from six years inside the NRL, lessons in leadership, how she got her start at Netball NZ, her return to New Zealand and the challenges facing sport here. 

After listening to this, you’ll get a taste for why Raelene has had the career she has. She’s the real deal, full of energy, sharp as a tack and doesn’t miss a beat. This was a lot of fun and we're so stoked to be able to bring Raelene’s story to you in full. 

We're also delighted to announce Raelene has joined our Speaking business at B2B Speakers. If you'd like to hire Raelene, or one of our other guests to speak at your function or event, flick us a message by going to B2Bspeakers.co.nz

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Tim Brown is a former professional footballer who played 112 times for the Wellington Phoenix and earned 30 All Whites caps.

Then, in 2012, at the age of 31, he retired early from professional football to pursue a masters degree in management in the UK. At the same time, he was forming an idea for a woollen, environmentally friendly, sustainable shoe.

Four years later he was the co-founder of his shoe company called Allbirds, and nine years later his company went public on the Nasdaq with a valuation close to $4 billion US dollars.

In this episode we talk about the realities of being the CEO of a billion-dollar company, all the most interesting steps on his journey from a Wellington flat to worldwide footwear industry leader, partnering with Leonardo di Caprio and meeting Barack Obama, the challenges the company faced in 2023 and why he stepped down as co-CEO and all the best bits from his time with the All Whites.

Tim has been a dream guest for us since we started this thing in 2019 – and he didn’t disappoint. This was one of our favourite episodes. Tim is sharp, charismatic, a brilliant storyteller and incredibly humble for a guy that has achieved so much in his life. We both left this recording feeling incredibly inspired. You’re going to love this one.

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Steve and Seamus reveal which 'dream guest' they have recorded an episode with, they compare New Years' Eve celebrations, discuss their exciting new business venture and Seamus cycling from Hamilton to Cambridge.

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Steve and Seamus highlight more of their favourite conversations from 2023. This episode includes snippets from their chats with Sarai Bareman, Jeremy Wells, Abbas Nazari, Sonia Gray, Fletch and Vaughan, Topp Twins, Scott Beard, Wayne Smith Jermal Paerata, Steve Price, Duane Dalton, Josh Komen and Dave Wood.

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Steve and Seamus highlight some of their favourite conversations from 2023. This episode features snippets from their chats with Paul Henry, Mea Motu, Example, Lisa Carrington, Marc Ellis, Chris Wood, Hayley Holt, Izzy Whitley, Awen Guttenbeil and David Galbraith.

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Steve and Seamus reveal their best and worst moments of the year on the podcast, Steve reflects on his 12 pubs of Christmas pub crawl, Seamus explains why he wasn't there and their new business interest.

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On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to Dallas Tamaira 

Dallas is the lead singer of Fat Freddy’s Drop, one of New Zealand’s most popular bands of all time. 
 
His voice is unmistakable as the focal point of the seven-piece super group, but this year, for the first time in two decades, Dallas has released a solo EP, called Levels. 

In this episode we talk about the best stories across 20 years with Fat Freddy's, lessons from the road, finding sanctuary at the spacies, the origins of Fat Freddy's, NZ’ best kept musical secret, fatherhood, his new music and much much more. 

Dallas is one of my favourite artists and his music has been the background to nearly every summer I can remember. It was a real privelidge to get to share some time with him, and unpack the best bits from his incredible life in music. 

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On this episode of Between Two Beers we’re rewinding the clock back to  
April of 2022 when we sat down with Ryan Fox.  

Ryan is NZ’s best golfer and at the time of recording had won two European Tour titles and has 13 professional wins.

Since recording Fox has added another title, and a second place finish and a third, to go along with $5.1m in prize money. 
  
In this episode we talk about how he celebrated his win in the Ras Al Kaimah classic and what happened to the $500,000 dollar prize money, what it was like playing a hole with Tiger Woods – and we hear all his best Tiger stories, memories of his late, great mate Shane Warne, how Steve Hansen’s advice helped him out of a funk, what makes Steve Williams such a good caddy and how his upbringing, surrounded by Kiwi sporting royalty, shaped his life.  
 

This ep was a cracker and we’re excited to re-release it for our new listeners. We had so much fun across the two hours.  
 
Ryan said before we started recording that he was an open book – and to ask him anything – so we did. it's really rare to have a sportsperson at the top of the tree in NZ who’s so accessible, fun and likeable. You’re gonna like this one.  
 

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This week, we’re taking you behind the scenes of Waikato’s greatest pub crawl of all time… According to us anyway. 🤷‍♂️

For the past six years, our annual ‘12 Pubs of Xmas’ tour has been raising hell across Hamilton.

Tune into this week’s episode of HAMBASSADORS to hear all the best and worst stories from our favourite tradition - as well as our Christmas Wishlists, beard care routine, and more!

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Thomas is one of our Low Key Legends and is the founder of The Waterboy - a Hamilton based not-for-profit organisation that uses sport and education to help disadvantaged youths.  

His charity helps connect business sponsors with people, mostly children, to help them overcome barriers related to getting involved in sport, be it finance, family dysfunction, disability, family violence and sexuality. He's helping to create stronger people and communities, but that’s only part of his story. 

In this episode we unpack the origin story of The Waterboy, the loss of his parents and the impact it had on him, lessons from David Galbraith, his marathon mishap when guiding a vision impaired runner, the beauty of cricket umpiring and some of the best stories from the huge amount of kids that have had their lives enriched thanks to Thomas. 

Thomas' work is so important in NZ where the gap between the haves and the have nots is growing. He cares, deeply, and has created a vehicle to help. His vision is to create stronger communities in NZ and he’s just at the start of his journey – but he’s already doing it. 

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Lani Daniels is a World champion boxer who holds the IBF heavyweight title and will this weekend aim to add the Light Heavyweight title to her collection, making her the first Kiwi woman in history to hold two world titles at different weights. 

In this episode we talk about her rollercoaster ride from Pipiwai to world champion, growing up with eight siblings, the tragic loss of her brother and the spiral of drinking, depression and guilt that followed, how she pulled herself out of that hole and discovered boxing, her intense training regime, path to the top and all the best stories in between. 

This was a really cool ep. Lani Daniels is authentically Lani. She’s a genuinely lovely person, with a gentle soul and infectuous laugh, who just happens to also be one of the best fighters in the world. 

Her path to the top was filled with adversity, discipline and support, and it’s a story everyone should hear. 

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Steve is leaving his role as Premium Sports editor at NZ Herald, Seamus is off to the Solomon Islands for a TV gig and reflects on a bad commentary experience, plus the guys reflect on their episode with Sir Ashley Bloomfield and talk about their upcoming guests.

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Sir Ashley Bloomfield was the Director-General of Health in New Zealand from 2018-2022 and became one of the country's most recognisable faces during the Covid-19 pandemic. 

In this episode, we talk about the anxiety of facing the media and nation every day at 1 pm and the effect it had on his personal life, the power of ‘I don’t know’, his weekly interviews with Mike Hosking and Kim Hill, dealing with fame, lessons in leadership and much, much more. 

Ashley is brilliant company and an exceptionally articulate communicator – with so many valuable lessons to share. This was a really cool opportunity to probe away at the *other side* of such a high-profile public figure – and he didn’t disappoint. 

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On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to Billy Stairmand. 

Billy is a professional surfer, and arguably our best ever. He’s won the national New Zealand title a record eight times, surfed at the Olympics and has competed internationally around the globe for 20 years. 

In this episode we talk about the time he beat Kelly Slater, what the busy, international life of a pro surfer really looks like, the tragic loss of his mum and brother, and dealing with adversity, sharks, big-wave surfing, keeping a healthy marriage and his Olympic challenge. 

Billy is a ray of light, such an optimistic, fun-loving guy who has worked incredibly hard and sacrificed so much to reach the top in his sport. You’ll love Billy’s outlook and approach to life, story of success and all the best yarns in between. 

Listen on iheart or wherever you get your podcasts from, or watch the video on Youtube.  

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Steve and Seamus have a big business announcement (feat Mike Minogue), they reflect on reaching two million downloads, their fourth birthday, recent eps with Wayne Smith, Abbas Nazari, The Topp Twins and quiz each other on B2B trivia.

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On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to Dame Jools and Dame Lynda Topp. 
 
The twin sisters are best known as the joyfully chaotic and comedic country music duo The Topp Twins and have captivated audiences in NZ and overseas for more than 40 years. 

In this episode we hear how two country kids from Huntly became much-loved Kiwis icons, the origins of characters like Camp Mother and Camp Leader and Ken and Kenn, their best stories from the busking years, their most memorable small-town gigs, their long history of political activism, health updates and reflections on their exceptionally successful careers. 
 
This was a really special episode, and we felt honoured to share so much time with the Untouchable girls. Their enthusiasm for life, for fun and for standing up for what is right make them exceptional company, Kiwi icons and just brilliant storytellers. You’ll love this one. 
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Strap in, because this is one of the craziest stories we’ve told.

When the Taliban were at the height of their power in 2001, Abbas Nazari's parents were faced with a choice: stay and face persecution in their homeland of Aghanistan, or seek security for their young children elsewhere.

Abbas’ family chose to leave, and what happened next formed the storyline for his best selling book After The Tampa.

Abbas talks about escaping the Taliban as a young child, being adrift at sea as a refugee for weeks, the makings of the largest maritime rescue in modern history, which turned into an international standoff and finding home in Aoteraroa.

Then after arriving in NZ as an eight year old who spoke no English, Abbas went on to place third in the New Zealand Spelling Bee a few years later, played rep rugby, graduated from the University of Canterbury, was awarded a Fulbright scholarship in Washington DC and now owns two gyms and is one of NZ’s most in-demand speakers.

Abbas is a world-class storyteller, with one of the most incredible tales to tell. This was one of our favourite episodes we’ve done, and a real perspective shifter.

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Sir Wayne Smith is one of the most respected and accomplished figures in New Zealand Rugby history – an absolute legend of the game. 

He was a 17-cap All Black who went on to win three World Cups - two as All Blacks assistant coach, and one with the Black Ferns. 

He’s also been the All Blacks coach, won four Super Rugby titles as a coach, two with the Crusaders and two with the Chiefs, and currently works as the Performance coach to both the All Blacks and Black Ferns. 

In this episode we talk about the differences between coaching men and women, what rule changes he’d like to see in the game, why he was sacked as All Blacks coach and the hardest moments of his career in 2007, his fair tale ride with the Black Ferns, where his resilience comes from and much, much more. 

There’s a reason Wayne is considered one of World Rugby’s greatest thinkers, and this was a fascinating insight into how his brain works. It was a real honour getting to share so much of his time, and it’s easy to see why his players are all so connected to him as a person and a coach.  

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Steve shares his realisation that he had a gambling problem, the boys reveal their next big guest, reflect on recent episodes with Hayley Holt and Jemarl Paerata and discuss which guests need a follow up episode.

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Hayley Holt is one of NZ’s highest profile broadcasters and has been a fixture on NZ screens for 20 years. 

She’s been a snowboarder, a ballroom dancer, a member of the Green Party, a radio host, celebrity boxer and has fronted shows like Crowd Goes Wild, Breakfast and One’s Sports news. 

In this episode we find out what young Hayley was like, the unlikely path from dancer to snowboarder, her difficult relationship with booze, behind the scenes of Crowd Goes Wild, Ric Salizzo, Live TV and the difficult transition to Breakfast, her challenging road to motherhood and much, much more. 

Hayley has such a fun, infectious energy – this one was a blast. She’s lived such an incredibly full and varied life – and there’s so much to learn at each chapter. 

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On this episode of Between Two Beers, we talk to Jemarl Paerata. 

Jemarl was the inspiration for starting our Low Key Legends series. I heard him speak during a presentation at Dave Wood’s Calm Under Pressure workshop earlier this year, and was immediately captivated and knew we had to get him in for a chat. 

These days, Jemarl is as a motivational mentor and the founder of Te Kaiarahi –where he inspires people to reach their full potential based on Te Ao Maori principals and connecting back to nature. 

But his journey there has been one hell of a ride. 

In this episode we talk about why his dad was sentenced to 30 years at the Bangkok Hilton in 1991, and how he tried to get him out, his 20-year career as a professional firefighter and the trauma and darkness associated with the job, his relationship with alcohol, hitting rock bottom and how he pulled himself out of his hole, discovering his purpose, starting his own business and realising his vision. 

Jemarl is just at the start of his journey helping and building community. But his story is one that needs to be heard. 

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Steve and Seamus reflect on recent episodes with Steve Price and Jack Tame and discuss being on the other side of the mic as guests on other people's podcasts.

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On this episode of Between Two Beers we’re rewinding the clock back to April of 2022 when we sat down with Jack Tame.  

Jack is journalism’s Swiss Army Knife – a guy that does it all. He’s been a Breakfast host, a 6pm news reader, he hosts one of NZ’s biggest radio shows on Newstalk ZB, is a columnist for the NZ Herald, has moderated live election debates, now hosts TVNZ’s Q and A and has seen more, and experienced more of the world – than any 36-year-old we know.  

In this episode we talk about how he was given Paul Holmes’ radio job on ZB at the age of 25 with no radio experience, *That* interview with Winston Peters where Jack was called James – about 10 times, the time he was recording live TV while fearing for his fathers life, dancing with Beyonce, covering Trump, why he left Breakfast TV, the things you don’t know about MIke Hosking and so much more.  

This was one of our favourite episodes and one we wanted to share with new listeners of the podcast. Jack is, in my opinion, the best political interviewer in the country and his razor sharp mind and quick wit made this one a lot of fun.  

Listen on iheart or wherever you get your podcasts from, or watch the vid on our Youtube channel.  

A huge thanks to those supporting the show on patreon, if you want to chip in for the cost of a cup of coffee a month, go to betweentwobeers.com  

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On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to Steve Price. 

Steve is a legend of rugby league on both sides of the Tasman. In Australia he played 222 games for the Bulldogs and 16 for Australia before moving to New Zealand in 2005 to captain the Warriors. 

Steve’s impact on New Zealand transcended rugby league where he racked up 91 caps for the Warriors across four years, but also opened a supermarket in Waipu, coached rugby league at Mt Albert Grammar school and became a pillar of his community, which was recognised when he was appointed a Member of the NZ Order of Merit in 2010. 

In this episode we talk about Steve’s high-achieving family, and how two of his kids are now professional athletes, the tragic loss of his father to suicide last year and how it impacted him, what makes a good leader, and how he navigated challenges across his career like the scandals that enveloped the Bulldogs and the loss of Sonny Fai at the Warriors, *That* Origin fight, behind the scenes of the Supermarket business, Celebrity Treasure Island and ,much, much more. 

Steve may well be NZ’s favourite Australian, and after listening to this it will be easy to see why. He’s achieved incredible success in all facets of his life and has so much brilliant wisdom to share. This was a really special one. 

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Steve and Seamus discuss why Steve hired a hubby, is sweet chilli sauce is acceptable to add to nachoes, reflections on Chris Wood, Hamish Pinkham and the Chatham Cup final and tease some upcoming guests.

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On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to Chris Wood. 

Chris is one of New Zealand’s best football players of all time, with over 200 English Premier League appearances and more than 50 goals. 

In 2022 he became the EPL’s most expensive 30-year-old in Premier League history when his move from Burnley to Newcastle cost $NZD 50 million.

At the start of this year he joined Nottingham Forrest where he currently plays, along with the All Whites – where he’s captain, leading all time goal scorer and best player. 

In this episode we talk about his challenging journey to the top, what makes a good coach vs a great coach, what life is like inside a Premier League dressing room, best players he’s played with and against, making his EPL debut as a 17-year-old, why he got booed at Leeds and the mental affect it had on him, the art of scoring goals and much, much more. 

This was Chris’s first every long-form podcast and was such an insightful look behind the scenes of what it takes to get to the top in football.  

We loved it, and hope you do too. 

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On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to Hamish Pinkham.

Hamish is a lawyer, entrepreneur and musician, but is best known for being the co-founder and director of Rhythm and Vines - New Zealand's premier live music festival.

In 2003 Hamish and his two roommates at the University of Otago decided to host a party for their friends in a Gisborne vinyard.

The story of what’s happened since then is quite remarkable.

In this episode we talk through the 21-year journey of R and V highs and lows, from fears of losing it all, to having 30,000 revellers at its peak. We hear the best behind-the-scenes stories from experiences with Public Enemy and Chance the Rapper, the wildest riders, his hustlers mentality, the time he tried standup comedy, and all the business lessons he learned along the way.

What Hamish has built and achieved over the last two decades is seriously impressive. But after talking to him – it’s easy to see how. He’s smart, fun, driven and extremely personable. This was a really fun ep.

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Steve shares his concerns ahead of his vasectomy, the guys reflect on recent episodes with Russell Packer and Sarai Bareman and Seamus going viral in Fiji, and answer listener questions.

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On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to Russell Packer. 

Russell is a former rugby league player who played for the Warriors, Tigers, Dragons and Kiwis across a 13-year professional career in the NRL. 

After retiring from league two years ago, Russell returned to NZ with his family and is now a businessman, leading a property development project in his hometown of Foxton. 

Russell’s footy career was divided by one major incident. In 2013 he was sentenced to two years in prison for assaulting a man outside a pub in Sydney. 

It’s a definitive part of Russell’s story, and the impressive man he is today is reflective of the lessons he learned about himself through his darkest days. 

We talk about what happened that night in Sydney, how he passed the time in jail and how it changed him, how he got back into the NRL and became a senior leader, *that* time he pissed his pants for the Warriors, his MBA journey and thirst for learning, the realities of raising an autistic son, volunteering in the community and giving back. 

Unfortunately we had a slight technical glitch about a quarter-way through the pod and lost some of the chat about his childhood and the Warriors – which you will later hear referenced. 

Russell’s life has been one hell of a ride and the thing that stuck with me on this one is his appetite for self-improvement. His thirst for learning and growing, and being a better man is really impressive. If you only know Rusty from a headline, this ep will change your perception of the man. We’re so proud to be able to tell his story. 

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On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to Sarai Bareman. 

Sarai is one of the most powerful, and influential women in world sport.  

She has been FIFA’s chief women’s football officer since 2016, when the role was first created. 

Her mandate included doubling the sport's global female player base from 30 million to 60 million and she's ultimately responsible for all levels of the game – from grassroots through to elite international competition – across 200 countries. Quite a big gig. 

In this episode we talk about her relationship with her brother, UFC superstar coach Eugene Bareman – and their humble beginnings, the chaos and stress caused by the Auckland shootings on the morning of the first World Cup game in NZ, how she worked her way up from a bank teller in West Auckland to the biggest job in women’s football, the misogyny, corruption and abuse she encountered along the way and all the best ‘pinch yourself’ moments from her epic rise. 

This one was pretty special – and after making it to the end – you'll be able to see why Sarai holds the position she does. 

She’s sharp, articulate, empathetic – and perhaps most importantly, authentic. There’s no Fifa talking points in this one, it’s Sarai Bareman as you’ve never heard her before. One of our all time fav eps. 

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Steve and Seamus reflect on New Zealand's biggest low key legends, their favourite moments from the women's World Cup, Mikie Havoc and Jeremy Wells, and take an ADHD test.

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